The order of fossils in the geological column

[Armoured]

Should It call flying squirrels "flying squirrels"?

Um, well that would make sense, wouldn't it?

Or you'd prefer calling flying squirrels "rhubarb milkshakes"?

 

[AV1611VET]

Um, well that would make sense, wouldn't it?

Or you'd prefer calling flying squirrels "rhubarb milkshakes"?

Solid aurum.

None of my business, but how old are you?

 

[szechuan]

Solid aurum.

None of my business, but how old are you?

I would say 6001 years old.

 

[AV1611VET]

I would say 6001 years old.

He is an example of my theory that those who say the least in their profiles, say as much in their posts.

 

[szechuan]

He is an example of my theory that those who say the least in their profiles, say as much in their posts.

The Irony is amazing.

 

[biggles53]

The Irony is amazing.

You really shouldn't waste your time with his bovine excrement.....

After all, this is the person who says that knowledge can "take a hike"....he worships ignorance, dogma and superstition...

Just shake the dust from your feet...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So we get their hand-me-downs. Short end of the Cosmic Stick, that.

He did renovate the place for us.

Well, that went sideways pretty quickly, didn't it? One minute they're shouting and singing for joy, the next minute, they're looking to trade up.

Not trading. They wanted the whole enchilada.

Meanwhile, God, having learned absolutely nothing from this debacle, creates another Earth, creates another race of beings -- this time, in His image -- to inhabit it, and hires the disgruntled ex-tenants of the last one to serve Him as His messengers and errand boys.

Only a third fell from favor. The rest stayed loyal.

Question: did God, at any point in that GAP between verse one and verse 2, suffer some sort of retrograde amnesia as a result of the revolt, honestly expect things to turn out differently the second time around, or simply not care?

Gen 1:2 began his plan to restore everything.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

All of this is correct.

Everything I say is correct.

There could be no fossils of ancient creatures never seen by modern man if the earth was without form and nothing but water. Where would these fossils be kept until God created dry land on Day 3?

The land wasn't created on the third day, it appeared (came into view) on the third day.

 

[Queller]

I do better I don't rely on any ice core dates for the far past.

Yet you really on nothing but your imagination for a different state past.

No. I raised the possibility of chemical agents coming up with the water. In the former state no less! I do not assume the earth was hotter in the former state either. The heat could have been a product of friction from the rapid continental movement. In this present nature one can change liquid nitrogen to a solid.

"Liquid nitrogen can easily be converted to a solid by placing it in a vacuum chamber pumped by a rotary vacuum pump..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_nitrogen

So shooting stuff up could mean that a reaction like freezing could take a little time after it gets at or near the surface!

OK, what chemical agents would be coming up with underground water that would supercool the water?

Why would there have been no internal heat in the planet in the different state past?

The end part of the change of states? That would mean that friction would produce great heat for example. In the former state, that was noot the case because in creation week we had waters and land separated on the planet without a threat to life from heat.

According to the Bible the land was separated from other land, just from water. That wouldn't create the heat we're talking about.

Besides the Bible says the dry land just "appeared".

How could they NOT have been if the bible is true????

Simple, the Bible IS true, your INTERPRETATION of the Bible is wrong.

 

[Queller]

In your own words HOW did they look for a different state past???

Google is your friend

If you cannot claim it is the same what else could we call it BUT unknown!

If you claim to know how time exists in the far universe get to it man. You are bluffing.

False dichotomy. Just because it isn't unknown does not mean it has to be the same. It is well known that time moves at different rates in different locations depending on several factors.

None of those factors help you deal with the fact that time does not move dozens of orders of magnitude at different times right here on earth.

No problem at all, we just watch you NOT answer.

If science can't answer it right now, how can I answer it right now? Seriously, is there a PEBKAC error going on with you?

Forget lions, He out and out said a new earth and heavens were coming!

But He didn't say anything about the new earth being "exceedingly different." did He?

 

[Queller]

From machines and equipment calibrated to do so, no doubt.

Accusation without evidence.

 

[BL2KTN]

The land wasn't created on the third day, it appeared (came into view) on the third day.

And He called it "earth".

Funny thing to name something that had been created before.

 

[Queller]

Everything I say is correct.

Not hardly.

Why did you put the extra [ quote ] at the beginning of your post?

The land wasn't created on the third day, it appeared (came into view) on the third day.

Land is a form and land is not a void. According to Genesis 1:2 the earth was WITHOUT form and void. Try again.

 

[Riberra]

Not hardly.

Why did you put the extra [ quote ] at the beginning of your post?

Land is a form and land is not a void. According to Genesis 1:2 the earth was WITHOUT form and void. Try again.

Perfect example of how a bad translated word from Hebrew to English can change all the meaning.

Explanation from above verse: *1was = Hebrew word # 1961 hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass, to happen, to fall out. This word 'Was' is the English translation of a Hebrew word that means "Became". In other words, the earth was not created without form and void, but that it became that way at some point in time after it was created. *2 without form = Hebrew word # 8414 tohuw; was translated from the Hebrew word that means: to lie waste, a desolation. You cannot lie waste or desolate something unless it was once in good condition, and then at some later time it was destroyed. *3 void = Hebrew word # 922 bohuw; This word 'Void' is translated from a Hebrew word that means: an indistinguishable ruin. You cannot have a ruin unless there was at first something to ruin. *4 darkness = Hebrew word # 2822 choshek; As it is used here, darkness means: to become dark, to be darkened. You cannot darken something that was not lit in the first place. *5 deep = Hebrew word # 8415 tehowm; An abyss (as a surging mass of water) especially the deep, uproar, or agitate greatly, put in commotion; to disturb, drive, destroy. **This corresponds with the description of the destruction of the first earth age by water in (2 Peter 3:5+6) which is not speaking of the flood of Naoh's time, Noah's Flood was in our present second earth age). *6 "." =There is a period at the end of this sentence. the following sentence marks the beginning of the rejuvenation of this earth age (The one we now live in), remember the time-gap in this Scripture. *7 Spirit of God = The Holy Spirit.
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Below, we will see what Almighty God says about the way he created the world, and we see that He did not create it void and without form, but that it became like that at a later time:

Isa 45:18
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain*1, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. (KJV)
​

Explanation from above verse: *1 vain = There is something remarkable here that is lost to the English reader of the Bible. In the Hebrew Manuscripts that the above verse was translated out of, the word translated into the English: 'vain' is translated from the identical Hebrew word that we saw in (Gen 1:1) tohuw, which was translated: 'without form', it is the very same word in the manuscripts! Let's refresh our recollection of the Hebrew word tohuw which is the actual Hebrew word used in both (Gen 1:1 & Isa 45:18), and it tells in what condition that God did NOT create the world in.
​

Source:
The First Earth Age, Archaeological Evidence...
http://www.biblestudysite.com/1stage.htm

Below we see a 'footprint in time.' The below footprint is impressed into solid stone in New Mexico U.S.A. The rock that it is impressed into is conservatively dated at 10 million years old, the University of New Mexico dates the rock formation in which the footprint is indented into back to 50 million years ago.

 

[bhsmte]

Accusation without evidence.

Hey, we need our conspiracies. They help to sell books and boost the economy.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Below we see a 'footprint in time.' The below footprint is impressed into solid stone in New Mexico U.S.A. The rock that it is impressed into is conservatively dated at 10 million years old, the University of New Mexico dates the rock formation in which the footprint is indented into back to 50 million years ago.

Nice picture, now show us a nonreligious site that says the same.

 

[dad]

Perfect example of how a bad translated word from Hebrew to English can change all the meaning.

Explanation from above verse: *1was = Hebrew word # 1961 hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass, to happen, to fall out. This word 'Was' is the English translation of a Hebrew word that means "Became". In other words, the earth was not created without form and void, but that it became that way at some point in time after it was created. *2 without form = Hebrew word # 8414 tohuw; was translated from the Hebrew word that means: to lie waste, a desolation. You cannot lie waste or desolate something unless it was once in good condition, and then at some later time it was destroyed. *3 void = Hebrew word # 922 bohuw; This word 'Void' is translated from a Hebrew word that means: an indistinguishable ruin. You cannot have a ruin unless there was at first something to ruin. *4 darkness = Hebrew word # 2822 choshek; As it is used here, darkness means: to become dark, to be darkened. You cannot darken something that was not lit in the first place. *5 deep = Hebrew word # 8415 tehowm; An abyss (as a surging mass of water) especially the deep, uproar, or agitate greatly, put in commotion; to disturb, drive, destroy. **This corresponds with the description of the destruction of the first earth age by water in (2 Peter 3:5+6) which is not speaking of the flood of Naoh's time, Noah's Flood was in our present second earth age). *6 "." =There is a period at the end of this sentence. the following sentence marks the beginning of the rejuvenation of this earth age (The one we now live in), remember the time-gap in this Scripture. *7 Spirit of God = The Holy Spirit.
​

Below, we will see what Almighty God says about the way he created the world, and we see that He did not create it void and without form, but that it became like that at a later time:

Isa 45:18
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain*1, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. (KJV)
​

Explanation from above verse: *1 vain = There is something remarkable here that is lost to the English reader of the Bible. In the Hebrew Manuscripts that the above verse was translated out of, the word translated into the English: 'vain' is translated from the identical Hebrew word that we saw in (Gen 1:1) tohuw, which was translated: 'without form', it is the very same word in the manuscripts! Let's refresh our recollection of the Hebrew word tohuw which is the actual Hebrew word used in both (Gen 1:1 & Isa 45:18), and it tells in what condition that God did NOT create the world in.
​

Source:
The First Earth Age, Archaeological Evidence...
http://www.biblestudysite.com/1stage.htm

Below we see a 'footprint in time.' The below footprint is impressed into solid stone in New Mexico U.S.A. The rock that it is impressed into is conservatively dated at 10 million years old, the University of New Mexico dates the rock formation in which the footprint is indented into back to 50 million years ago.

You recognize angel footprints?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Why did you put the extra [ quote ] at the beginning of your post?

I edited it out. I'll get it right eventually.

Land is a form and land is not a void. According to Genesis 1:2 the earth was WITHOUT form and void. Try again

.
It means the whole earth was a chaotic wasteland, flooded with water. On the third day the 'dry ground' emerged from the waters.

 

[dad]

Yet you really on nothing but your imagination for a different state past.

OK, what chemical agents would be coming up with underground water that would supercool the water?

Now remember I said there were many possibilities. I am not saying it happened one way. There was also the great wind, perhaps that had great cooling potential also?

What agents? Well, the problem you have is that they were in the former state, so we can't be certain that the same agents existed and worked the same way. I use a present state agent, liquid nitrogen as a taste of what could have happened we can relate to, here.

Why would there have been no internal heat in the planet in the different state past?

I doubt there was much if any. Just as I doubt the core is hot as we speak. ALL the reasons to claim that are present state based. The heat we know goes down only so far. Man has NEVER been down very far. Rapid sliding continents would produce heat! It would also extend far under the earth. How far is the question! Yes far enough to make volcanoes.

According to the Bible the land was separated from other land, just from water. That wouldn't create the heat we're talking about.

No? Even on a planetary scale? That depends I guess. How much land moved how fast and how much water? Seems to me wafting around a Panagea sized land mass and seas of water one week might produce heat today.

Besides the Bible says the dry land just "appeared".

As a result of the action just mentioned...the separating!

Simple, the Bible IS true, your INTERPRETATION of the Bible is wrong.

If you can make a case, you might have a point. You ain't there yet by a loooooong shot!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Perfect example of how a bad translated word from Hebrew to English can change all the meaning.

Explanation from above verse: *1was = Hebrew word # 1961 hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass, to happen, to fall out. This word 'Was' is the English translation of a Hebrew word that means "Became". In other words, the earth was not created without form and void, but that it became that way at some point in time after it was created. *2 without form = Hebrew word # 8414 tohuw; was translated from the Hebrew word that means: to lie waste, a desolation. You cannot lie waste or desolate something unless it was once in good condition, and then at some later time it was destroyed. *3 void = Hebrew word # 922 bohuw; This word 'Void' is translated from a Hebrew word that means: an indistinguishable ruin. You cannot have a ruin unless there was at first something to ruin. *4 darkness = Hebrew word # 2822 choshek; As it is used here, darkness means: to become dark, to be darkened. You cannot darken something that was not lit in the first place. *5 deep = Hebrew word # 8415 tehowm; An abyss (as a surging mass of water) especially the deep, uproar, or agitate greatly, put in commotion; to disturb, drive, destroy. **This corresponds with the description of the destruction of the first earth age by water in (2 Peter 3:5+6) which is not speaking of the flood of Naoh's time, Noah's Flood was in our present second earth age). *6 "." =There is a period at the end of this sentence. the following sentence marks the beginning of the rejuvenation of this earth age (The one we now live in), remember the time-gap in this Scripture. *7 Spirit of God = The Holy Spirit.
​

Below, we will see what Almighty God says about the way he created the world, and we see that He did not create it void and without form, but that it became like that at a later time:

Isa 45:18
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain*1, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. (KJV)
​

Explanation from above verse: *1 vain = There is something remarkable here that is lost to the English reader of the Bible. In the Hebrew Manuscripts that the above verse was translated out of, the word translated into the English: 'vain' is translated from the identical Hebrew word that we saw in (Gen 1:1) tohuw, which was translated: 'without form', it is the very same word in the manuscripts! Let's refresh our recollection of the Hebrew word tohuw which is the actual Hebrew word used in both (Gen 1:1 & Isa 45:18), and it tells in what condition that God did NOT create the world in.
​

Source:
The First Earth Age, Archaeological Evidence...
http://www.biblestudysite.com/1stage.htm

Below we see a 'footprint in time.' The below footprint is impressed into solid stone in New Mexico U.S.A. The rock that it is impressed into is conservatively dated at 10 million years old, the University of New Mexico dates the rock formation in which the footprint is indented into back to 50 million years ago.

Right on. Thanks for doing the work on this subject.

That could be an angel footprint. I think the angels appeared pretty much then as we do now. They would have been made in God's likeness as well (the 'likeness' that God chose for himself).