Why dont SDA's and Sabbath keepers also keep the Feast Days of Leviticus 23 too???

[BobRyan]

The emphasis of the Old Testament is obedience to the law which prevents sin. The idea of the New Testament is freedom from sin by freedom from the law .

in the NT - it is clear from Romans 6 that the lost are stuck in slavery to sin - slavery to law breaking.

in the NT - it is clear in Romans 8:6-8 that the lost constantly argue that they cannot submit to the law of God - not just that they do not.

But that is not the argument that Paul makes for the saints.

Just the lost.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[VictorC]

<snipped off-topic material>

Nothing in your post answers anything in mine. Nothing. You merely elucidate the same flawed argument that the Law is immoral, wrong, and we should reject its testimony. This is in opposition to my claim that the Law is reliable, affirmed by the Apostle Paul where he wrote "we establish the law" in Romans 3:31, and shows how Abraham was justified by faith by the reliable testimony of the Law itself.

 

[VictorC]

I didn't know where to post this--not that savy!---I've been without a computer for quite a while, I got a vicious bug that ended up requiring them to just gut the computer and restore it to new--to 2005 when I bought it--lost everything and have had to get everything back and it took forever, and then I made a booboo and had no internet connection for several more days till a tech came out and figured out in 2 min what those "high tech" techs couldn't figure out in 2days!!--
I had lots of security, all working. Apparently these guys have spent all their time figuring out how to mess up other peoples lives!!--These new viruses hit your security systems first--over and out--they go right for the jugular and there is no system that works 100%--great. It cost me $70.00 only because I wasn't stupid enough to fall for their scam to get my credit card so they could "activate" my system to get rid of this virus (that they gave me!)--I do wish they would get a useful hobby if not a job!!
This has done nothing to improve my disposition, which was already going downhill (and I got an official reprimand for loosing my temper at somebody on here!)--
I'm not sure about continueing here--I believe I was just going on here when the virus hit--but I can't remember for sure. How can you protect yourself when the first thing they do is render your protection useless??!!

You're describing malware that is usually profile-dependent in Microsoft Windows. Chances are you could have logged onto your Administrator account and the computer would have performed perfectly. From there you could have deleted the 'infected' user account and re-create a clean profile and start over from scratch. You also need to keep up on those hundreds of updates Microsoft keeps publishing to address their problems (I just loaded a new computer with Windows7 Pro 64-bit SP1, and it needed almost 800MB of updates installed).

It is possible that your computer is setup to automatically log onto a single account. That is the worst thing you can do in a Windows environment. If you're going to use a single account on a computer, Microsoft Windows is not your best choice of OS. If you don't need to use the Office suite, one of the various Linux distributions may be a better choice - they are free, and are inherently immune to the type of malware your post describes. My preference leans to the openSUSE distribution, having tried Ubuntu, Fedora, and Mageia as well. Do yourself a favor and resurrect the nearest old Core2Duo and put it to use with a new OS for free.

 

[from scratch]

nm

 

[from scratch]

I didn't know where to post this--not that savy!---I've been without a computer for quite a while, I got a vicious bug that ended up requiring them to just gut the computer and restore it to new--to 2005 when I bought it--lost everything and have had to get everything back and it took forever, and then I made a booboo and had no internet connection for several more days till a tech came out and figured out in 2 min what those "high tech" techs couldn't figure out in 2days!!--
I had lots of security, all working. Apparently these guys have spent all their time figuring out how to mess up other peoples lives!!--These new viruses hit your security systems first--over and out--they go right for the jugular and there is no system that works 100%--great. It cost me $70.00 only because I wasn't stupid enough to fall for their scam to get my credit card so they could "activate" my system to get rid of this virus (that they gave me!)--I do wish they would get a useful hobby if not a job!!
This has done nothing to improve my disposition, which was already going downhill (and I got an official reprimand for loosing my temper at somebody on here!)--
I'm not sure about continueing here--I believe I was just going on here when the virus hit--but I can't remember for sure. How can you protect yourself when the first thing they do is render your protection useless??!!

I see the endless discussion on the Sabbath is still going strong--for now I shall butt out--maybe permanently--you all have fun, I may check in one more time.----God rules, Satan drools!!!

Apparently you clicked on one of those scare tactic ads stating something that wasn't true. I used to have all kinds of problems till I installed MS security for free. Works great. I don't click on ads anymore. I sure don't click on messages (really ads) saying someone has a message for me. If they did they can use my e-mail.

 

[BobRyan]

You merely elucidate the same flawed argument that the Law is immoral, wrong, and we should reject its testimony.

if a combination of "pure fiction" and "you quoting you" is the substance of your argument - it will never get off the ground.


You have to deal with the actual facts in the discussion to have one.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

As we all know --Paul says this.
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1. Paul never commands gentiles to "Love God WITH ALL your heart".
2. Paul never commands gentiles "not to take God's name in vain"
3. Paul never commands gentiles to ignore the writings of Moses.
4. Paul DOES tell gentiles that Moses' writings are still authoritative scripture in 1Cor 9:8-9 and 1Tim 5:18 and binding as being "Law" and as being "scripture".
5. Paul quotes Moses TEN Commandments Eph 6:2. Full 5th commandment
6. Paul DOES teach that there remains therefore a "Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.
7. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
8. Paul does tell gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justifIED... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
9. Paul DOES ask that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
10. Paul DOES tell gentiles that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the LAw of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
11. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "The Law" is in fact "The LAW of Moses" and is to be used for testing doctrine 1Cor 9:8-9
12. Paul DOES tell gentiles that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16


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Originally Posted by VictorC

Bob, the division of 'moral' versus 'ceremonial' you imposed on the Law is artificial. Had you responded to the pertinent content of my post in its entirety, the imposition of this artificial division would have rectified itself for you:
​

PAUL contrasts the ceremonial law to the moral law contrasting circumcision to the moral law of God and saying "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19

Here is how the sunday sources listed admit to this Bible detail.


Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

This in both in the WCF and the BCF - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"

All I see is the continued rejection of the Bible.

And yet we have so many many "Sunday Sources" that see so much more than that in the texts listed.

The "Baptist Confession of Faith"
The "Westminster Confession of Faith"
The Catholic Catechism
D.L. Moody
R.C Sproul
Andy Stanley
Thomas Watson

Thus the extreme revisionist ideas that only Ellen White knew the Bible well enough to make the distinctions between ceremonial law and moral law, or to know that the Ten Commandments are included in the moral law of God - is pure fiction.


And yet some "imagine" that this is an "SDA" POV only in their extreme revisionism.


Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

Yet it comes directly from - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"


in Christ,

Bob

 

[VictorC]

Bob, the division of 'moral' versus 'ceremonial' you imposed on the Law is artificial. Had you responded to the pertinent content of my post in its entirety, the imposition of this artificial division would have rectified itself for you:
...
All I see is the continued rejection of the Bible.

Bob proves my observation to be accurate.

Here is how the sunday sources listed admit to this Bible detail.

What is a "Sunday source"?
What is it that makes a "Sunday source" distinctive?

These questions are rhetorical, because they're too obvious to overlook.
They aren't the Bible.

Many of your quotes "from Paul" are taken out of context, mistranslated, and attributed to the wrong author in at least one instance. I have addressed some of those sound-bites before, and you didn't offer any defense for your abuse of Scripture. Repeating the same abuse suggests a disdain for Holy Writ. This method of producing posts without engaging in conversation has become habitual for you, and it doesn't help you at all.

 

[SAAN]

As we all know --Paul says this.
[FONT=&quot]
1. Paul never commands gentiles to "Love God WITH ALL your heart".
2. Paul never commands gentiles "not to take God's name in vain"
3. Paul never commands gentiles to ignore the writings of Moses.
4. Paul DOES tell gentiles that Moses' writings are still authoritative scripture in 1Cor 9:8-9 and 1Tim 5:18 and binding as being "Law" and as being "scripture".
5. Paul quotes Moses TEN Commandments Eph 6:2. Full 5th commandment
6. Paul DOES teach that there remains therefore a "Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.
7. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
8. Paul does tell gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justifIED... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
9. Paul DOES ask that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
10. Paul DOES tell gentiles that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the LAw of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
11. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "The Law" is in fact "The LAW of Moses" and is to be used for testing doctrine 1Cor 9:8-9
12. Paul DOES tell gentiles that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16


[/FONT]


PAUL contrasts the ceremonial law to the moral law contrasting circumcision to the moral law of God and saying "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19

Here is how the sunday sources listed admit to this Bible detail.


Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

This in both in the WCF and the BCF - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"






And yet we have so many many "Sunday Sources" that see so much more than that in the texts listed.

The "Baptist Confession of Faith"
The "Westminster Confession of Faith"
The Catholic Catechism
D.L. Moody
R.C Sproul
Andy Stanley
Thomas Watson

Thus the extreme revisionist ideas that only Ellen White knew the Bible well enough to make the distinctions between ceremonial law and moral law, or to know that the Ten Commandments are included in the moral law of God - is pure fiction.


And yet some "imagine" that this is an "SDA" POV only in their extreme revisionism.


Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

Yet it comes directly from - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"


in Christ,

Bob

You do realize the Sabbath is Listed as the 1st of all the SABBATHS listed by God to be observed in Lev 23, so if Jesus canceled them all out, the weekly Sabbath is also canceled out now then as well as it is just as important as the pother Sabbaths.

Jesus himself said to keep the Passover, so we all know that Passover wasnt cancel yet, yet we ignore it and do easter instead. So if you have proved Jesus canceled the Sabbaths out, you can no longer question people about observing the Saturday Sabbath either.

 

[BobRyan]

You do realize the Sabbath is Listed as the 1st of all the SABBATHS listed by God to be observed in Lev 23,

Indeed - but that is not the first reference to the Sabbath. It's first reference is in Gen 2:1-3 as God himself points out to us in Ex 20:11.

Which is a problem for your response since you ignored all the Bible texts given to make a comment about Lev 23 "as if" Lev 23 was the only reference to the 4th commandment Sabbath memorial of Creation.

However for the objective unbiased Bible students reading along - these Bible texts are not so easily dismissed --

As we all know --Paul says this.
[FONT=&quot]
1. Paul never commands gentiles to "Love God WITH ALL your heart".
2. Paul never commands gentiles "not to take God's name in vain"
3. Paul never commands gentiles to ignore the writings of Moses.
4. Paul DOES tell gentiles that Moses' writings are still authoritative scripture in 1Cor 9:8-9 and 1Tim 5:18 and binding as being "Law" and as being "scripture".
5. Paul quotes Moses TEN Commandments Eph 6:2. Full 5th commandment
6. Paul DOES teach that there remains therefore a "Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.
7. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
8. Paul does tell gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justifIED... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
9. Paul DOES ask that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
10. Paul DOES tell gentiles that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the LAw of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
11. Paul DOES tell gentiles that "The Law" is in fact "The LAW of Moses" and is to be used for testing doctrine 1Cor 9:8-9
12. Paul DOES tell gentiles that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16[/FONT]


PAUL contrasts the ceremonial law to the moral law contrasting circumcision to the moral law of God and saying "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19

Even the Sunday source list admits to this Bible detail.



This in both in the WCF and the BCF - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"


And yet we have so many many "Sunday Sources" that see so much more than that in the texts listed.

Thus the extreme revisionist ideas that only SDAs know the Bible well enough to make the distinctions between ceremonial law and moral law, or to know that the Ten Commandments are included in the moral law of God - is pure fiction.


And yet some "imagine" that this is an "SDA" POV only in their extreme revisionism.

But here we see that "no Ten Commandment Moral Law of God" fiction being debunked by Sunday Sources themselves.

Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.

Yet it comes directly from - The "Baptist Confession of Faith"


in Christ,
Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Bob proves my observation to be accurate.

What is a "Sunday source"?

<list of factless accusations deleted here...>

The "Sunday Sources" are well known Sunday promoting Christian documents, Bible teachers, pastors, confession of Faith that admit to key Bible details that some people remain at war against when it comes to God's own TEN Commandments.

In fact I do. I agree with them on these details
1. Sabbath began in Eden not Sinai.
2. Sabbath as given by God was the 7th day - and began in Eden.
3. Sabbath binding on all saints from Eden to this very day.
4. ALL TEN Commandments - the moral Law of God under the NEW Covenant.
5. All saints to honor and obey the TEN Commandments from Eden to this very day.

6/The one point where I differ with them is that the Sabbath Commandment can be "bent" to point away from the 7th day as God gave it.

Those at war with God's Ten Commandments today will typically object to ALL SIX points listed above - claiming that the Commandments are either downsized or deleted for today.


in Christ,

Bob

 

[VictorC]

The "Sunday Sources" are well known Sunday promoting Christian documents, Bible teachers, pastors, confession of Faith that admit to key Bible details that some people remain at war against when it comes to God's own TEN Commandments.

In fact I do. I agree with them on these details
1. Sabbath began in Eden not Sinai.
2. Sabbath as given by God was the 7th day - and began in Eden.
3. Sabbath binding on all saints from Eden to this very day.
4. ALL TEN Commandments - the moral Law of God under the NEW Covenant.
5. All saints to honor and obey the TEN Commandments from Eden to this very day.

6/The one point where I differ with them is that the Sabbath Commandment can be "bent" to point away from the 7th day as God gave it.

Those at war with God's Ten Commandments today will typically object to ALL SIX points listed above - claiming that the Commandments are either downsized or deleted for today.


in Christ,

Bob

Okay, you've conceded that the Bible isn't your arbiter to determine doctrine, affirming my point as accurate. This is consistent with your repeated lists proving your reliance on the traditions of man. Please answer this question: why are you "at war" with the Ten Commandments?

 

[Sophrosyne]

Okay, you've conceded that the Bible isn't your arbiter to determine doctrine, affirming my point as accurate. This is consistent with your repeated lists proving your reliance on the traditions of man. Please answer this question: why are you "at war" with the Ten Commandments?

I will tell you the answer.. because in not being able to keep them to a level of perfection needed to obtain righteousness the Law becomes like an enemy that cannot be defeated. One putting their faith in their own deeds to defeat an undefeatable foe finds that they are in a battle that they cannot win. Some think that they can call Jesus in to help them defeat the Law but then they don't even admit to themselves he did indeed defeat it on their behalf in their minds the enemy (the Law) still exists taunting them demanding like a slavedriving taskmaster never letting up.

 

[BobRyan]

Okay, you've conceded that the Bible isn't your arbiter to determine doctrine, ?

Not at all true.

I have posted the bible statements on the Ten commandments soooo many times even the board monitors are starting to notice the Bible texts. Too late to now start pretending that they do not exist.

or that this post does not exist.

God says it is in Gen 2:3.

When God summarizes Gen 1-2:3 in Ex 20:11 He specifically says it is in Gen 2:3.

We need to believe "God" -- as it turns out.

And Christ affirms it in Mark 2:27 speaking both of the making of mankind and the making of the Sabbath in Creation week "the Sabbath was MADE for Mankind".

So obvious - even many Sunday Sources get this Bible point - of the Sabbath starting in Eden.



Oh Good -- Bible quotes instead of tired old "man made tradition" about the Commandments of God supposedly being dead.

Christ affirms it in Mark 2:27 speaking both of the making of mankind and the making of the Sabbath in Creation week "the Sabbath was MADE for Mankind"

"From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23

Ex 20:11 "11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed THE Sabbath day and made it holy." That is what God said He did in Gen 2:3.

Gen 2:1-3

Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

"And Sanctified it" -- "And made it Holy" -- the same word.

 

[BobRyan]

The "Sunday Sources" are well known Sunday promoting Christian documents, Bible teachers, pastors, confession of Faith that admit to key Bible details that some people remain at war against when it comes to God's own TEN Commandments.

In fact I do. I agree with them on these details
1. Sabbath began in Eden not Sinai.
2. Sabbath as given by God was the 7th day - and began in Eden.
3. Sabbath binding on all saints from Eden to this very day.
4. ALL TEN Commandments - the moral Law of God under the NEW Covenant.
5. All saints to honor and obey the TEN Commandments from Eden to this very day.

6/The one point where I differ with them is that the Sabbath Commandment can be "bent" to point away from the 7th day as God gave it.

Those at war with God's Ten Commandments today will typically object to ALL SIX points listed above - claiming that the Commandments are either downsized or deleted for today.

I cannot be blamed for the fact that those Sunday Sources agree with the points listed.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[SAAN]

I cannot be blamed for the fact that those Sunday Sources agree with the points listed.

in Christ,

Bob

Stop making excuses Bob for why you dont obey God. Gods feats days are days he says are HIS feast days, NOT the Jews, are just as equally important as the Sabbath.

Leviticus 23


Feasts of the Lord

23 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 “Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.
The Sabbath

3 ‘Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.




So God puts clear importance that the Sabbath and HIS feast days are the same importance, so if you feel we no longer need feast days, you cant judge Sunday believers on Sunday worship either as you are just as guilty of ignoring God as they are in regards to Saturday.

 

[VictorC]

Okay, you've conceded that the Bible isn't your arbiter to determine doctrine, affirming my point as accurate. This is consistent with your repeated lists proving your reliance on the traditions of man. Please answer this question: why are you "at war" with the Ten Commandments?

Not at all true.

I have posted the bible statements on the Ten commandments soooo many times even the board monitors are starting to notice the Bible texts. Too late to now start pretending that they do not exist.

or that this post does not exist.

I know one of the moderators of this forum personally, and we share notes on occasion. Your penchant to misrepresent others is common knowledge.

You didn't answer my question: why are you "at war" (your words) with the Ten Commandments?

It was on a parallel thread that you repeated your vendetta against the Law, confirming the point I made here as accurate.

The sabbath isn't mentioned prior to the exodus from Egyptian bondage, for the reason that the exodus is the impetus to ordain the sabbath, as Deuteronomy 5:15 shows. The impetus always precedes the result. You can wait 3 years or 300 years, and no one is going to change this fact of the Law's testimony regarding itself.

until you notice the Bible details in this post -

Which doesn't mention Deuteronomy 5:15 at all. This verse shows that the exodus from Egyptian bondage came before the sabbath existed. Exodus 20:11 uses the same sentence structure that shows the seventh day of the creation account came before the sabbath existed. Genesis 2:2-3 shows the seventh day of the creation account was God's rest, a singular event in history that never repeated. Mark 2:27 differentiates the sabbath apart from God's rest, proving that the seventh day of the creation account wasn't the sabbath.

You didn't even comment on Deuteronomy 5:15. You simply discarded it because you can't reconcile your opinion with the Ten Commandments.

No wonder even Sunday Sources - admit to the Sabbath of Genesis 2:1-3 kept by the saints from Eden onward in the OT.

Your approach is to assume that it is fine to construct an argument that is dependent on the premise that the Law contradicts the Law, and then run away from the Law and replace it with uninspired commentary. If you don't believe the Law, a claim to comply with it becomes absurd.

Please tell this audience why you're against every authority established, be it the moderation staff or the Law codified in the covenant from Mount Sinai.

 

[BobRyan]

Please tell this audience why you're against every authority established,

It is difficult to understand how your wild factless accusation is supposed to be taken seriously when I am the one that is posting favor not only of a long list of Bible texts which apparently you fear - but also a number of Sunday Sources that differ with so many of those who are war with God's Ten Commandments.

Why simply post empty accusation after empty accusation? Is vitriol and acrimony supposed to supply the Bible-lack for your argument?

I find it puzzling.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[VictorC]

It is difficult to understand how your wild factless accusation is supposed to be taken seriously when I am the one that is posting favor not only of a long list of Bible texts which apparently you fear - but also a number of Sunday Sources that differ with so many of those who are war with God's Ten Commandments.

Why simply post empty accusation after empty accusation? Is vitriol and acrimony supposed to supply the Bible-lack for your argument?

I find it puzzling.

in Christ,

Bob

You haven't answered my question.

 

[BobRyan]

Stop making excuses Bob for why you dont obey God.

Here again your appeal to pure fiction is not the all consuming solution you appear to have at first imagined.

Not sure who is supposed to fall for that -- did you I think I would?

I prefer actual facts.

Gods feats days are days he says are HIS feast days, NOT the Jews, are just as equally important as the Sabbath.

Lev 23 - AFTER listing the "Weekly day of rest" and "Solemn Assembly" in vs 3 -- we come to "verse 4" the one you are so anxious to avoid in your oft-repeated fictions.

NKJV

The Sabbath

3 &#8216;Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

The Passover and Unleavened Bread

4 &#8216;These are the feasts of the Lord, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times. 5 On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord&#8217;s Passover.



In Lev 23:1 NASB says
23 The Lord spoke again to Moses, saying, 2 &#8220;Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, &#8216;The Lord&#8217;s appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations&#8212;My appointed times are these:


YLT says


And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, saying,
2 `Speak unto the sons of Israel, and thou hast said unto them, Appointed seasons of Jehovah, which ye proclaim, holy convocations, [are] these: they [are] My appointed seasons:

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And obviously one may find many references even in the NT to the "FEAST of Passover" but not one to the "FEAST of the weekly Sabbath" in OT or NT.

As we all know.

So then - I am left "Stating the obvious" and "fiction".

How is that supposed to help your argument to keep circling back to this failure for your empty accusations?

Even that list of Sunday Sources - does not agree with your fictions. How much less - me.

in Christ,

Bob