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How Creationism hurts Christian Colleges

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We are all going to get what we deserve for not believing a lie.

Who cares? what you or I believe means absolutely NOTHING, what matters is what's true.

Darwin found something out and wrote a book, it doesn't matter one jot if he believed what he wrote or not,
the truth was out and it stayed out and it changed the world.
Um ... okay.

In the meantime, I believe evolution is going to wax stronger and stronger until Jesus comes.

Is that okay with you?
 
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Woa ... hold on, chief.

I just got laughed at for thinking another atheist is going to Hell by someone who [probably] laughs at the idea that Darwin went to Heaven.

It's okay for you guys to think Darwin didn't make a deathbed confession; but if I say evolution is going to get even stronger until Jesus comes ... that should make me feel better because another Atheist is going to Hell???

Aside from his answer not making sense, his answer doesn't make sense.

Like I said, what impact would a deathbed confession have on Darwin's work and the boatloads of evidence that support it?
 
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Um ... okay.

In the meantime, I believe evolution is going to wax stronger and stronger until Jesus comes.

Is that okay with you?

If there is a God, he has certainly provided tons of evidence for evolution, so maybe you should blame him for evolution getting stronger by the day.
 
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Like I said, what impact would a deathbed confession have on Darwin's work and the boatloads of evidence that support it?
Did I mention that I think evolution is going to get stronger and stronger until Jesus comes?
 
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Can you provide some object criteria to determine complexity?
The human eye.
The complex eye of a fly.
The organization of the genome.
The complex nature of DNA.
The individuality of snowflakes.
The individuality of the human mind.
The US tax code.
 
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If there is a God, he has certainly provided tons of evidence for evolution, so maybe you should blame him for evolution getting stronger by the day.
In the meantime, do you understand my position that evolution will get stronger and stronger until Jesus comes?

And that it has NOTHING to do with some Atheist going to Hell (whatever that was about)?
 
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In the meantime, do you understand my position that evolution will get stronger and stronger until Jesus comes?

And that it has NOTHING to do with some Atheist going to Hell (whatever that was about)?

What is the basis for your position?
 
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Why is evolution getting stronger?
Because the tares are outgrowing the wheat.

In addition, I believe the Antichrist is going to link abiogenesis to evolution in such a way (and with a demonstration), that scientists will accept abiogenesis as a part of evolution.

Something they don't do today.
 
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Because the tares are outgrowing the wheat.

In addition, I believe the Antichrist is going to link abiogenesis to evolution in such a way (and with a demonstration), that scientists will accept abiogenesis as a part of evolution.

Something they don't do today.

Evolution getting stronger has nothing to do with the evidence?
 
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... instead of the Bible.

... instead of believing evolution can take a hike.

... instead of believing evolution will wax stronger and stronger, until it culminates in the Tribulation period, when Jesus comes back and pwns it.

Why dispute facts?

And on the eighth day, God made 3.5 billion-year-old fossils?
 
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What is the basis for your position?
Momentum.

Hasn't evolution been getting stronger and stronger in the past?

Won't it continue to get stronger as discoveries are made and loose ends are tied up?
 
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Evolution getting stronger has nothing to do with the evidence?
Did I mention that, in my opinion, evolution will wax stronger and stronger until Jesus comes?

Why do you find that argumentative?
 
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Momentum.

Hasn't evolution been getting stronger and stronger in the past?

Won't it continue to get stronger as discoveries are made and loose ends are tied up?

Absolutely, the momentum is caused by objective evidence to support it, they aren't pulling it out of thin air.

As explained by Christian Francis Collins:

Francis Collins: The evidence is overwhelming. And it is becoming more and more robust down to the details almost by the day, especially because we have this ability now to use the study of DNA as a digital record of the way Darwin’s theory has played out over the course of long periods of time.
Darwin could hardly have imagined that there would turn out to be such strong proof of his theory because he didn’t know about DNA - but we have that information. I would say we are as solid in claiming the truth of evolution as we are in claiming the truth of the germ theory. It is so profoundly well-documented in multiple different perspectives, all of which give you a consistent view with enormous explanatory power that make it the central core of biology. Trying to do biology without evolution would be like trying to do physics without mathematics

Francis Collins and Karl Giberson Talk about Evolution and the Church, Part 2 | The BioLogos Forum
 
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Absolutely, the momentum is caused by objective evidence to support it, they aren't pulling it out of thin air.
So what's the problem then?

I take it you don't like someone using the Bible to make a scientific prediction?
 
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Did I mention that, in my opinion, evolution will wax stronger and stronger until Jesus comes?

Why do you find that argumentative?

What if Jesus never comes, then what? Or maybe Jesus already came and left.
 
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