The Evolution of Morality

[Oncedeceived]

Put people down? I put no one down, on the contrary I put his knowledge above my own because he has knowledge that I do not, bhsmte do you think I was trying to put you down.

I stand corrected.

 

[Oncedeceived]

The belief that there is no god is based on the fact that you have no independently objective evidence to suggest a god/s exists. To believe a god/s exists because based on incredulity is one thing, to assert that it exists and claim you know it does, is delusion.

I have independently objective evidence.

 

[bhsmte]

I have independently objective evidence.

Such as?

 

[Ginger123]

I have independently objective evidence.

Such as?

 

[HitchSlap]

I have independently objective evidence.

Such as?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes you are fooling yourself and no you are not an uncaring person but your Christianity makes you put yourself first.

Christianity is all about egotism, it makes you think the universe was put there by God for you and other Christians,
God loves only Christians and will make everyone who is not a Christian suffer in hell for not believing in your God,
how egotistical is that??????????

You'd rather believe Ms. Nature configured this universe and we're just mold growing on cold, dead surfaces?

 

[HitchSlap]

You'd rather believe Ms. Nature configured this universe and we're just mold growing on cold, dead surfaces?

I would rather believe the preponderance of the evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

I would rather believe the preponderance of the evidence.

In other words, you'll let others do the work and then just go along with their decision ... is that correct?

Then you'll beam with some kind of academic pride that you're being wise?

 

[HitchSlap]

In other words, you'll let others do the work and then just go along with their decision ... is that correct?

Then you'll beam with some kind of academic pride that you're being wise?

No, it's nothing like religious belief.

 

[EternalDragon]

The belief that there is no god is based on the fact that you have no independently objective evidence to suggest a god/s exists. To believe a god/s exists because based on incredulity is one thing, to assert that it exists and claim you know it does, is delusion.

So then Christians believe in a delusion that has been reported by eyewitnesses as their own delusion? It's a delusion within a delusion?

What if we also have experiences similar to their delusions? Like encounters with spiritual entities that can't be explained?

Wait, are you calling Christians (or anyone that has faith in a God) delusional?

 

[HitchSlap]

So then Christians believe in a delusion that has been reported by eyewitnesses as their own delusion? It's a delusion within a delusion?

What if we also have experiences similar to their delusions? Like encounters with spiritual entities that can't be explained?

Wait, are you calling Christians (or anyone that has faith in a God) delusional?

Could you please describe an encounter with a spiritual entity?

 

[Loudmouth]

So then Christians believe in a delusion that has been reported by eyewitnesses as their own delusion? It's a delusion within a delusion?

What if we also have experiences similar to their delusions? Like encounters with spiritual entities that can't be explained?

Wait, are you calling Christians (or anyone that has faith in a God) delusional?

Are you saying that those who experience deities other than your god are delusional? What about the thousands of other gods that people have believed in through the ages? All delusions?

 

[AV1611VET]

Could you please describe an encounter with a spiritual entity?

This is the passage I use when talking to anyone who claims to have been saved at one point, then changed their call sign:

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partakers of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

You went through this, did you not?

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you saying that those who experience deities other than your god are delusional?

Not deities ... fallen angels.

What about the thousands of other gods that people have believed in through the ages?

Not gods ... fallen angels.

All delusions?

No.

 

[HitchSlap]

This is the passage I use when talking to anyone who claims to have been saved at one point, then changed their call sign:

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partakers of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

You went through this, did you not?

Please describe an encounter with a spiritual entity that you have had.

 

[EternalDragon]

Are you saying that those who experience deities other than your god are delusional? What about the thousands of other gods that people have believed in through the ages? All delusions?

HitchSlap made the delusional claim. I think you directed your question at the wrong poster.

Originally Posted by HitchSlap

The belief that there is no god is based on the fact that you have no independently objective evidence to suggest a god/s exists. To believe a god/s exists because based on incredulity is one thing, to assert that it exists and claim you know it does, is delusion.
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[HitchSlap]

HitchSlap made the delusional claim. I think you directed your question at the wrong poster.

Originally Posted by HitchSlap

The belief that there is no god is based on the fact that you have no independently objective evidence to suggest a god/s exists. To believe a god/s exists because based on incredulity is one thing, to assert that it exists and claim you know it does, is delusion.
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Well, you've asserted a god/s exist, can you objectively demonstrate this?

 

[EternalDragon]

Could you please describe an encounter with a spiritual entity?

So if I described it to you and told you that what I
experienced/saw/heard was real, then what would you
say?

That you think I am delusional?

Perhaps I could describe the numerous experiences
other Christians I know have had. Are they delusional
as well with the same delusion?

Perhaps the real answer is that yes, the Bible is telling
the truth.

 

[HitchSlap]

So if I described it to you and told you that what I
experienced/saw/heard was real, then what would you
say?

That you think I am delusional?

Perhaps I could describe the numerous experiences
other Christians I know have had. Are they delusional
as well with the same delusion?

Perhaps the real answer is that yes, the Bible is telling
the truth.

Yes, people having emotional experiences happens quite frequently. So what? How do you know it was a supernatural spirit that was responsible for it?

 

[ThinkForYourself]

So if I described it to you and told you that what I
experienced/saw/heard was real, then what would you
say?

That you think I am delusional?

Perhaps I could describe the numerous experiences
other Christians I know have had. Are they delusional
as well with the same delusion?

Perhaps the real answer is that yes, the Bible is telling
the truth.

Christians know what they should see, hear, feel, from reading the bible and from history, so similar delusional experiences isn't at all strange.