Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

reduce the world population?

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Not quite. There were the tapes, there was the societal conditioning, Malthusian drills, all those sorts of things.

Okay, so young girls should go through regular drills to use birth control? (This question is directed at anyone.)

Also, in Brave New World, abortion was celebrated.

I don't remember that from the novel.

What I do remember as their main way of controlling population was to have the majority of the population be made up of sterile clones.


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At 18, at least in most places, you're legally an adult. I have never understood why if you can die for your country and vote, etc., you can't legally drink from 18 to 20 years old. Now that bozo of a mayor in New York City, old "soda pop" Bloomburg (the same "all-knowing" idiot that tried to limit soft drink cup sizes), is making it to where you have to be 21 to purchase tobacco products. No, I don't smoke, nor have drunk alcohol in 20 years, but with all the drugs and other things out there, more stupid government regulations. I'm libertarian (and libertine) in my philosophy, if old enough to die in war or vote, old enough to drink, buy tobacco, have sex, etc.
 
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Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

Should the international age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

In third world countries such as Africa and in England,

teen age pregnancy rates are extremely high and

most of these girls end up living on hand outs and welfare their whole life.

So isn’t it time the international age of consent be set at 21 all over the whole world

to help reduce the world population?


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Hell, no. Just try to enforce that! We have too many (from both right wing and left wing ends of political spectrum) dingdongs trying to regulate everything and tie up police and resources for worthless b.s. Example - Good ole "Soda Pop regulate the cup size" Bloomberg of NYC outlawing tobacco products to anyone under 21 (that especially gets me....all the coke, crack, heroin, and etc. going on there but going after cigars, cigarettes, and "chew tobacco, chew tobacco, chew tobacco, spit). Yes, just try to enforce that 21 age of consent among a bunch of horny college students! Viva la U.S. and true freedom and up with Libertarianism in our blessed country (and world in general).
 
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I think raising the age of consent is a bad idea and would have no effect on slowing down population growth. If anything it should be lowered but that is another story...

First of all you have to consider that if two people want to have sex with eachother they are highly unlikely to take notice of a law against. This is demonstarted by the large amounts of under 16's having sex (16 been the age of consent in my country).

Secondly the age of consent law is rarely enforced unless they is evidence of abuse or exploitation. Giving the fact most sex is within a loving relationship with two fully consenting people who are aware of there actions, the law is unlikely to be enforced. If it was enforced in this situtation say among two twenty year olds, they would be a public outcry condeming the law.

Thirdly mosty young people having sex will use birth control as they don't want children at that stage of their lives, so most sex among under 21's is unlikely to result in pregnancies and even less so in births. So even if this law was introduced and fully enforced it would have little effect on the amount of births.

Finally and probably most importantly, I don't see how this law would be in accordance with the will of God as it goes against nature and would likely lead to further break down in society as it would increasew opposition to authority.
A side question...your flag says you're from England, but doesn't look like any British flag I've ever seen. Is the white flag with red cross another British flag? Just wonderin'.
 
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How on earth would the age of consent be enforced so as to insure the outcome proposed?


Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

Should the international age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

In third world countries such as Africa and in England,

teen age pregnancy rates are extremely high and

most of these girls end up living on hand outs and welfare their whole life.

So isn’t it time the international age of consent be set at 21 all over the whole world

to help reduce the world population?


world.pop.time.jpg

 
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A side question...your flag says you're from England, but doesn't look like any British flag I've ever seen. Is the white flag with red cross another British flag? Just wonderin'.

:) best he explain,
your straightforwardness helps to enrich the forum, :thumbsup:
 
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I just thought of something, how differently the legacy of 2 different mayors of the Big Apple, NYC, will be. Mayor Rudy Giuliani will be forever remembered as the mayor who did a helluva good job in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, and before he was mayor, really putting the legal hurt on the Mafia there. Mayor Bloomberg will be remembered for wanting to ban "biggie size" soft drink cups and make 21 the legal age to buy tobacco.
 
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I just thought of something, how differently the legacy of 2 different mayors of the Big Apple, NYC, will be. Mayor Rudy Giuliani will be forever remembered as the mayor who did a helluva good job in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, and before he was mayor, really putting the legal hurt on the Mafia there. Mayor Bloomberg will be remembered for wanting to ban "biggie size" soft drink cups and make 21 the legal age to buy tobacco.

Get off your soft drink soapbox, this isn't the thread for this, and obesity and smoking kills more people then terrorism could ever dream of.
 
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Get off your soft drink soapbox, this isn't the thread for this, and obesity and smoking kills more people then terrorism could ever dream of.

And there was I thinking that slander was the deadliest killer.
 
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Illegalising sex would work better.

To help reduce world population, countries should invest heavily on Education for All and social progress in general. Education leads to jobs, jobs lead to better living standards, postponed pregnancies and lower birth rates in places where children are still the only future investment for the vast underprivileged majority.
 
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To help reduce world population, countries should invest heavily on Education for All and social progress in general. Education leads to jobs, jobs lead to better living standards, postponed pregnancies and lower birth rates in places where children are still the only future investment for the vast underprivileged majority.

This.

Raising the age of consent to 21 would literally accomplish nothing. No one would obey it, and very few people would enforce it. Beyond that, the idea of telling two consenting adults that they can't really consent because they're only old enough to fight and die in the armed forces seems patently ridiculous.
 
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Get off your soft drink soapbox, this isn't the thread for this, and obesity and smoking kills more people then terrorism could ever dream of.
I don't take orders from you, I post anything I please anywhere I please. Care for a soapbox derby?
 
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There were a billion people in 1800? Cool...

Well, here is the thing:

There is not a food shortage. In fact, the majority of food waste occurs in the poorest countries due to lack of refrigeration and other resources that would help them maintain their food.

Rather, Capitalsm and misguided charities has led to this problem.

(a) Western Governments force democracy and free markets onto impoverished nations and they take away all of the raw natural resources hey can to use in their manufacturing and they pay the workers a pittance; if any manufacturing is done, likewise, the workers earn a small amount of money.

(b) The people who make millions & billions of dollars from this process then give away $100,000 of their money (or more) and they pat themselves on the back and say that they have done a good job.

They build a hospital and supply charitable goods to people, and they use modern medicine and pesticides to increase the food and cheap medicine supply which helps maintain a massive surplus of labor which helps insure that they do not have to pay Jack and/or Diddly for their labor.

(c) Then, people see the squalor and think the world is overpopulatd when, in reality, subsistence farming and protectionist economic policies would alone have kept the population lower while giving more opportunities to those who were alive...

It is a fun process I like to refer to as the systematic exploitation and bleeding dry of the third world countries so that Western Europeans & North Americans can pretend they have reached the highest heights of civilization from their safe homes.

And this is where the liberal hubris comes from: the idea that they have become the most righteous in the world because of the prosperity that exists at home...

And what is the solution?

(a) Socialist revolutions in small countries that isolate and protect their economies from exploitation from the carrion birds of Capitalism we call 'corporations.

(b) Free birth control and medical attention for impoverishd women; encouraging the voluntary sterilization of all women who have had 1 or 2 children and promising them more benefits to make this choice.

(c) Free and more accessible education; huge investments into education.

(d) Employing the impoverished to build their own homes and to build better schools and streets and infrastructure;

(e) Small business loans

(f) No interest loans to agricultural workers that help them buy their own land and develop a sense of pride and place as opposed to being nothing more than the likes of a hacienda worker.

(g) Howl mockery at the perverted McDonalds, Nike, Samsung, Dolce & Gabbana, Hollywood, Etc. and ban them, oppose them; put tarriffs on their sister companies.
 
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Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

Should the age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

Should the international age of consent be set at 21 to help reduce the world population?

In third world countries such as Africa and in England,

teen age pregnancy rates are extremely high and

most of these girls end up living on hand outs and welfare their whole life.

So isn’t it time the international age of consent be set at 21 all over the whole world

to help reduce the world population?


world.pop.time.jpg


Rarely have I seen so much ignorance in one post.
 
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There were a billion people in 1800? Cool...

Well, here is the thing:

There is not a food shortage. In fact, the majority of food waste occurs in the poorest countries due to lack of refrigeration and other resources that would help them maintain their food.

Rather, Capitalsm and misguided charities has led to this problem.

(a) Western Governments force democracy and free markets onto impoverished nations and they take away all of the raw natural resources hey can to use in their manufacturing and they pay the workers a pittance; if any manufacturing is done, likewise, the workers earn a small amount of money.

(b) The people who make millions & billions of dollars from this process then give away $100,000 of their money (or more) and they pat themselves on the back and say that they have done a good job.

They build a hospital and supply charitable goods to people, and they use modern medicine and pesticides to increase the food and cheap medicine supply which helps maintain a massive surplus of labor which helps insure that they do not have to pay Jack and/or Diddly for their labor.

(c) Then, people see the squalor and think the world is overpopulatd when, in reality, subsistence farming and protectionist economic policies would alone have kept the population lower while giving more opportunities to those who were alive...

It is a fun process I like to refer to as the systematic exploitation and bleeding dry of the third world countries so that Western Europeans & North Americans can pretend they have reached the highest heights of civilization from their safe homes.

And this is where the liberal hubris comes from: the idea that they have become the most righteous in the world because of the prosperity that exists at home...

And what is the solution?

(a) Socialist revolutions in small countries that isolate and protect their economies from exploitation from the carrion birds of Capitalism we call 'corporations.

(b) Free birth control and medical attention for impoverishd women; encouraging the voluntary sterilization of all women who have had 1 or 2 children and promising them more benefits to make this choice.

(c) Free and more accessible education; huge investments into education.

(d) Employing the impoverished to build their own homes and to build better schools and streets and infrastructure;

(e) Small business loans

(f) No interest loans to agricultural workers that help them buy their own land and develop a sense of pride and place as opposed to being nothing more than the likes of a hacienda worker.

(g) Howl mockery at the perverted McDonalds, Nike, Samsung, Dolce & Gabbana, Hollywood, Etc. and ban them, oppose them; put tarriffs on their sister companies.

Oh no...you mean good old-fashioned 'Murikan capitalism isn't the answer to every problem???? :p
 
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