So I was wondering how many people consider this to be inspired. I read through it this weekend and couldn't help but wonder what would make anyone think this was from God.
I know that it is inspiried, and Jesus calls it Scripture.So I was wondering how many people consider this to be inspired. I read through it this weekend and couldn't help but wonder what would make anyone think this was from God.
I know that it is inspiried, and Jesus calls it Scripture.
The Book of Enoch, Translated by Robert H. Charles, 1912
I know that it is inspiried, and Jesus calls it Scripture.
The Book of Enoch, Translated by Robert H. Charles, 1912
So I was wondering how many people consider this to be inspired. I read through it this weekend and couldn't help but wonder what would make anyone think this was from God.
Any reasons you believe it was not from God?
If one recognises the Epistle of Jude as Scripture, it seems churlish to balk at Enoch.
By similar argument, though somewhat more tenuous, to what Scripture does Jesus refer here if not to Enoch.
If one recognises the Epistle of Jude as Scripture, it seems churlish to balk at Enoch.
By similar argument, though somewhat more tenuous, to what Scripture does Jesus refer here if not to Enoch.
Plenty, but I asked why first. It's only polite to answer my question before posing your own
I did this as one reason, being that people believe Jude was quoting from Enoch. I however had a hard time accepting that as fact. And I don't know why you think Jesus would have been quoting from Jude. He would have been speaking from what He knew, since He came from Heaven.
So the "quoting" aside, what other reasons are there to see this book as inspired?
Wouldn't it be easier for people to list the reasons they believe it's not inspired?
Oh no. It is 100% fact that Jude was quoting from the Book of Enoch. We have papyrus fragments from Qumran that prove it.I however had a hard time accepting that as fact.
I am assuming that the Sadducee he was addressing did not come from heaven and did not benefit from his privileged knowledge. Jesus said, "You do not know the Scriptures."And I don't know why you think Jesus would have been quoting from Jude. He would have been speaking from what He knew, since He came from Heaven.
I assume you are referring to Acts 17:28. Very good, but Paul does not refer to the men he quotes as prophets, or even as philosophers, only as poets.That assumes that only canonical books are quoted or referenced.
Jude and 2 Peter appear to refer to some of the events described in Enoch. But to me that alone doesn't stamp "scripture" on the entire thing.
For example, if I say "D-Day was on June 6 1944" and you find the same thing in a WWII history book, I'm not necessarily vouching for everything contained in that book.
Reading the Word of God for nearly forty years as an avid student of the Word left me with many, many, questions that I thought I would have to wait til I was in heaven to get the answers to, but many of them are answered in Enoch.How do you know it's inspired? What exactly is it about the book that lead you to that conclusion?
..7 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants...
No, and that's why I don't consider Enoch to be scriptural, and neither does my church. It may have some good stuff in it, but that alone hasn't lifted it to the level of scripture except in (apparently) a single denomination of the church.I can appreciate that. However with scripture, should we be ok with a book that might have somethings correct, and other things wrong?
No, and that's why I don't consider Enoch to be scriptural, and neither does my church. It may have some good stuff in it, but that alone hasn't lifted it to the level of scripture except in (apparently) a single denomination of the church.
I assume you are referring to Acts 17:28. Very good, but Paul does not refer to the men he quotes as prophets, or even as philosophers, only as poets.
A question: what is the difference between asserting that the Book of Enoch is prophecy (as Jude does) and asserting that is Scripture?