What is wrong with America

[Bluelion]

you know i am sorry, but i have to laugh. Its out of love I assure you, but see how foolish you look using the wisdom of Men to God.

 

[TravisK]

The book of Job also being the oldest book in the Bible, and not millions of years ago but thousands.

Except that experts agree that they lived millions of years ago, not thousands.

 

[SoulBap6]

What is wrong with America ?

1. USA people have Changed= Anti God or anti Christ

2. Tolerating and excepting Sin according to Biblical teaching

3. Excepting evolution instead of Creation

4. Science instead of God

5. Atheism

6. Moral decay in acting Laws to justify sin.

7. Homosexuality

8. Total Disregard and respect of God ,Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit

9. Disbelief of Heaven or Hell God Jesus Christ or Religion

10. Undermining or disregard Bible as other than Gods word

 

[TravisK]

You guys make America sound like such a terrible place. Most people think of it as the best country in the world despite it's problems.

Is there another country better than the USA?

 

[classicalhero]

Genetic Adam and Eve did not live too far apart in time : Nature News & Comment

Bustamante and his team sequenced the Y
chromosomes of 69 males from around the
world and uncovered about 9,000 previously
unknown DNA sequence variations. They used
these variations to create a more reliable
molecular clock and found that Adam lived
between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago. A
comparable analysis of the same men's mtDNA
sequences suggested that Eve lived between
99,000 and 148,000 years ago1 . “This idea of a
very recent common ancestor of all men is not
that true,” Bustamante says.
Meanwhile, a team led by Paolo Francalacci, a
population geneticist at the University of
Sassari, Italy, came to a similar conclusion by
studying the Y chromosomes of 1,200 men
from the island of Sardinia. The team
identified nearly 7,000 previously unknown Y-
chromosome variations and used that detail to
create their own molecular clock. The clock
helped to pinpoint key events in Sardinian
history, such as the rise of Neolithic
populations there and the arrival of Africans as
part of the Roman slave trade. It also
suggested that Adam lived 180,000–200,000
years ago, similar to initial estimates of Eve’s
age 2





Exciting news both Genetic Adam and Eve(different from other human lines that died out) lived most likely at the same time.

You do realise that those dates are interpretations of the evidence, not evidence itself? The dating methods rel on factors that are often unknown or are assumption based on their already biased worldview.

 

[now faith]

Except that experts agree that they lived millions of years ago, not thousands.

The experts are wrong,a shell pit in Florida being dug out uncovered a mass grave of bones.

These bones from giant sharks to Dinosaurs,did not match the timing of scientists.

At first they said it had to be from a massive flood,then realized they were in agreement with the Bible.

So they concocted and animal would fall in a river and stay in a whirlpool for ages and then settle in one spot,this is how they justify the time line.

I know the Crain operator who made the discovery,a giant cassem was filled with bones that were from different time lines.

This find debunked theories of millions of years.

Kinda reminds me of Al Gore talking about the earth core being millions and millions of degrees.

 

[Bluelion]

Except that experts agree that they lived millions of years ago, not thousands.

Funny but I know of no one above God, so maybe they are your experts certainly not mine. I put my faith in Jesus Christ. I may not be as faithful as God, but I am not going to have science as God before my Lord. I can at least remain faithful to beliving his word.

You know demons believe Jesus is Lord to, and that he died and was resurrected and is now seat at the right hand of God. It takes more than that to be saved. How is what you believe any different than them?

 

[SoulBap6]

Bluelion If there is anyone who loves this country more than I, I am veteran served 45 years US Army, an I am a Christian. the last free country in the world is slowly becoming same as the rest of the world. No their is no better in the world than the USA, but the question was what is wrong with the USA.

 

[Bluelion]

Bluelion If there is anyone who loves this country more than I, I am veteran served 45 years US Army, an I am a Christian. the last free country in the world is slowly becoming same as the rest of the world. No their is no better in the world than the USA, but the question was what is wrong with the USA.

Well God Bless you for your service.

In spite of others trying to make this thread in to a bash America. It is not, And i love America too. It is because I love this country that I don't want to see it fall apart by pushing God out of it. Make no mistake God is what makes this country great. I think it is our job as Christians and Americans to speak up when we see this country going the wrong way.

My grandpa was in the Navy during world war 2, My dad was in the Army during Vietnam, but he did not see combat he built roads. My son is going into the Navy next year. My best friend sense i was 4 Is career Marine, He retires next year. I was going to go into the Navy Seals, but an injury prevented me from service.

I doubt TravisK knows the first thing about service or patriotism. Some people Accuse patriotic Americans of hating the country, When they don't know why the country is great in the first place, they think its all about stuff you can by which has zero to do with it, They think it because the homes we live in, and that is not it either. It is God and country, Liberty and Justice.

Peace and Love
blu

 

[classicalhero]

Except that experts agree that they lived millions of years ago, not thousands.

Experts once believed that Blacks were natural slaves.

So what do you do, take infallible Word of God, or the ever changing word of man? I'll take God's word over Man's word any time of the day as it has been proven to be far more reliable.

 

[TravisK]

Experts once believed that Blacks were natural slaves.

Way to try to twist things into the completely silly.
If my kids are in a science class, I want them learning science. There are church and religion classes for the other things.

I don't get this hatred for science. If the bible contained everything we need to know, we wouldn't need other books and the only thing that should be taught in school is the bible.

 

[KWCrazy]

If my kids are in a science class, I want them learning science.

I want them learning science FACTS. I have no problem with teaching evolution as a theory any more than I have with the teaching of Greek mythology. I just do not want unprovable, untenable theories of origination to be taught as fact while the word of God is said to be the mythology of the ignorant.

Anyone who says that evolution is a proven fact is a liar. Even if all the problems with the theory were overcome and science demonstrated that it COULD HAVE happened, it still wouldn't prove that it did. As a theory of origination, evolution stands in direct contrast with the word of God. As a theory of speciation, evolution is more consistent with the flood and the subsequent diversification. As such, it fits with what is KNOWN and OBSERVABLE and doesn't make incredible claims such as original progenitors or common descent.

I don't get this hatred for science.

Nobody hates science. It's the unenlightened who proclaim you can't accept anything relating to science unless you bow at the altar of Darwinism that we reject.

 

[classicalhero]

Way to try to twist things into the completely silly.
If my kids are in a science class, I want them learning science. There are church and religion classes for the other things.

I don't get this hatred for science. If the bible contained everything we need to know, we wouldn't need other books and the only thing that should be taught in school is the bible.

First you have prove that what i sad was wrong. I challenge yo to prove that scientists of old didn't believe that blacks were inferior to whites or that Whites are superior to all other races. If you can't do that, then you are very foolish, snce it shows that you are willing tolisten to man's words that are ever changing, or God's word that never changes.

Evolution doesn't equal science. Firstly it hasn't been observed, it i based on so many hypothetical and conjecture that the only reason it is even still around is that it gives man an excuse for man not to believe. The number one reason why people don't become Christian is because they see that it directly conflicts with the so called truth of evolution.

 

[thecrab]

I am a new member, so sorry for the late reaction.
I was in the US September 2012, mostly in California, churches everywhere! So why can people not talk about their faith in God?
Is believe in the US something one exercises in church or mosk and not in public?

bye,
Ed

 

[Alithis]

I want them learning science FACTS. I have no problem with teaching evolution as a theory any more than I have with the teaching of Greek mythology. I just do not want unprovable, untenable theories of origination to be taught as fact while the word of God is said to be the mythology of the ignorant.

Anyone who says that evolution is a proven fact is a liar. Even if all the problems with the theory were overcome and science demonstrated that it COULD HAVE happened, it still wouldn't prove that it did. As a theory of origination, evolution stands in direct contrast with the word of God. As a theory of speciation, evolution is more consistent with the flood and the subsequent diversification. As such, it fits with what is KNOWN and OBSERVABLE and doesn't make incredible claims such as original progenitors or common descent.

Nobody hates science. It's the unenlightened who proclaim you can't accept anything relating to science unless you bow at the altar of Darwinism that we reject.

I so get that

i find in truth i can NOT TRUST science . it is firstly represented by those at its fringes in the most dishonest manner .
those at the face of science do treat it with far more honesty .

what i mean is this .. those at the face of science say
-"we found some bones that we believe(a form of faith in their assumptions) could have come a from a time when their was a half man half ape and is possibly a link between the two "..
then 30 years later newer science says .."nope sorry its just an ape bone" .

THEN- those at the fringe of science say to our kids in school "they found a bone that is half man half ape and is a link between the two .. they just LIED- they ignored the implied opinion (we believe) they ignored the words "could be " and "possibly " and then skipped the later science that refuted the former science .. and blatantly lied to the school kids .

so i fully get what you are saying .
and for me .. i cannot put any faith in science -im not opposed to it but it is changeable and inconsistent and simply unworthy of trust .

 

[Bluelion]

I so get that

i find in truth i can NOT TRUST science . it is firstly represented by those at its fringes in the most dishonest manner .
those at the face of science do treat it with far more honesty .

what i mean is this .. those at the face of science say
-"we found some bones that we believe(a form of faith in their assumptions) could have come a from a time when their was a half man half ape and is possibly a link between the two "..
then 30 years later newer science says .."nope sorry its just an ape bone" .

THEN- those at the fringe of science say to our kids in school "they found a bone that is half man half ape and is a link between the two .. they just LIED- they ignored the implied opinion (we believe) they ignored the words "could be " and "possibly " and then skipped the later science that refuted the former science .. and blatantly lied to the school kids .

so i fully get what you are saying .
and for me .. i cannot put any faith in science -im not opposed to it but it is changeable and inconsistent and simply unworthy of trust .

You really said it all with this post. I fully agree. I think this is the way many of us feel.

 

[Bluelion]

I am a new member, so sorry for the late reaction.
I was in the US September 2012, mostly in California, churches everywhere! So why can people not talk about their faith in God?
Is believe in the US something one exercises in church or mosk and not in public?

bye,
Ed

You can talk about God, but not in government, atheist get offended by the mention of the word God. They tried to take in God we trust off are money, they stop the pledge of allegiance in schools because it says one nation under God. they try to have that removed too. They took statutes of the ten commandments out of court houses because it refers to God. You are not a loud to have God in court, and now they are taking out the oath in courts because you swear by God. They have tried to take down memorial crosses because it refers to Jesus and is on state ground. These are memorials to soldiers that lost there life in service to our country. Teachers can not pray in school. You can not teach anything from the Bible in school. They teach evolution in school as fact.

When i was in school they did not get to teach evolution because when they tried i raised so much hell, and the class followed that they literally could not teach it to my class. They tried to tell us well this is the way God created man, I said I know the way he created man its in the bible. I was 13 then.

So yeah you can talk about God on the streets to a degree, but the atheist are taking God out of everything.

 

[now faith]

This country will have the burden of turning its back on God,it has already.

Our 200 years is a drop in the bucket compared to other empires.

We founded it on God,we prospered to the greatest Nation in the world.

Now as we watch it unravel people are blind to this and God will let us wallow in our idolatry and murder.

 

[Bluelion]

This country will have the burden of turning its back on God,it has already.

Our 200 years is a drop in the bucket compared to other empires.

We founded it on God,we prospered to the greatest Nation in the world.

Now as we watch it unravel people are blind to this and God will let us wallow in our idolatry and murder.

Your 100% right. The country was founded on God, and if you read the old testament you get an idea what Israel did and what Gods reaction was. If we compare the USA to old Israel we can predict what is going to happen to this country. It is doing the same things Israel did thousands of years ago, look how many times that nation fell through out history. They fell and repented, they fell and repented.

 

[KWCrazy]

This country will have the burden of turning its back on God,it has already.

It already did. As you recall, the Democratic Party officially rejected God in its 2012 platform. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ha9o24Pfw