In the last few weeks it seems he goes back and forth between no icon at all and an Oriental Orthodox icon. Currently, at last check a few minutes ago at the post just before this one that I am linking to, his icon is OO.
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But of course, that has happened for several multiple times over the years when it comes to screen glitches. If I wanted to be petty on the matter, I could easily say "See!!! yedida does not h ave an icon showing up so she must be going back and forth!!!!" - but things aren't so simple and that'd not be honorable.
Again, even computer screens glitch up and it's nothing new - and the icon has been consistently showing on for me (my icon) on my screen since I there's no need for not having an icon when I know my identification and have been comfortable with it, although on some postings it's not there alongside other things (something I had to ask others on if they experienced the same - and they confirmed such) .... and thankfully, it's why we have an "About Me" section and people keep up with postings so that they don't have a "The Sky is falling!!!"/alarmist reaction.
I agree with Ani, this is not fair to the rest of us who are obeying the site-wide rules, that he is allowed to come in here teaching and debating, and the mods/admins don't seem to want to inforce that rule.
Rule was enforced - although truthfully, it's not fair to the rest of others when the rules are violated in regards to judging other believers improperly, claiming others aren't "Messianic" as you are for differing - and flaming. That is a matter of quoting the rules while not really obeying them fully or wishing to square with where one does so.
This also goes for whenever there have comments by yourself saying one cannot be Christian and Messianic or claiming things about the Church being against Jewish believers which are not true (like
where you said "jeeezus chariyst that the church seems to follow and worship is a myth" and other related commentary that goes against the SITE-Wide rules) - as that's also against the rules.
If wanting to talk on the rules, respect what the Mods already noted on icons - posting and what is or isn't said on Christians or the Church.
Does that mean we can go into the OO subforum teaching and debating against their SoP and not get any warnings or infractions against us? I'm really very curious about that
Logically - if you actually GO to an OO Parish or work with OO Believers/subscribe to their Christological views, of course you could work with them. And a little note: There are JEWISH believers working in the Messianic World who are also OO due to the overlap/commonality -and even they have been able to discuss Torah, God's Law and other things ....and they know how to not judge others when there's disagreement.
Daughter of Ararat (another member of the MJ Forum - #
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still join with noting openly my love for God's Torah/Jewish culture while identifying with OO culture as others do ).
Even Contra Mundum has experienced the same with discussion - as seen in the thread entitled
Symbols in Judaism versus Icons in Christianity. What is the difference... ..
The same has occurred here, in regards to the Ethiopian Jews in Ethiopian Orthodoxy - well known for their Jewish lifestyle (i.e. Sabbath, Fasting, Kosher, etc.) - as occurred in one of the older threads on the MJ board entitled
Messianic Judaism and Ethiopian Orthodoxy when it came to others living out a Jewish lifestyle in the Church (and the same in
Reggae Righteousness: Seeing Ones that are both Messianic Jewish & Rastas for Christ? ).
So it's neither new nor impossible having discussion on Messianic issues elsewhere since a lot overlaps - and what's requested is that one be a part of the culture/appreciate it if they choose to share...or share in fellowship that doesn't attack what others believe. There's already understanding that there are differences/variations within the camp on certain things - and so we give grace to each other since we all hold to essentials.
However, if/when you have NEVER agreed with them - or wanted NOTHING to do with the Church/Christianity at all - that is where the rules forbid you from going in/teaching since you're not part of their world - and the same applies here when others want nothing to do with Messianic Judaism or valuing Jewish culture....yet wish to debate/teach. That is not allowed and shouldn't be - but that's not the same as others who value it while also working with the Church.....or being with Messianic Jews/Messianic Gentiles on one end of the spectrum with Torah Observance instead of on the other end of the spectrum which feels it is more "observant" than others - for the rules are already plain that there are differing levels of observance and people at differing spots.
People who don't want to be with others on one level of observance don't need to go into threads/postings by those who are for it - and likewise, others who feel some Messianics observe "less" than they do don't need to follow them around into the threads those Messianics make for others who are like-minded - or make claims against the rules like "They're just Christians!!!" (derogatory/flaming) or "They're not as Messianic as I AM!!!" since that's also not allowed.
Thus, sincerely, if wanting to talk on rules, one must be consistent in dealing with them as the MODS/CF have noted. People in the OO Forum are reasonable enough to do as the mods say and note that someone without an OO icon doesn't automatically qualify as not being OO since others do the same there as others have throughout CF - and people go by signature, "About Me" bio or posting content.
Simple as that ....just as it was for others here, be it ContraMundum, Daughter of Ararat, Desert Rose or several others over the years - and of course, the same for yourself.
