leaving web pages open. IE10. W8 vs W7?

[Unix]

Is there any difference in speed or does the web pages act up less in Windows 8 than in Windows 7, with the same web browser? (I'm not interested in changing to some other web browser.) This is when leaving many tabs open.

The reason I'm asking, is because I'm contemplating upgrading the software of my newer computer and to put an SSD in it at the same time. More about that in: http://www.christianforums.com/t7750312-post63208008/ ... where I also explain that I'm a bit poor. So I wouldn't want to do the upgrade if there's no benefits.

 

[C-Man]

I wouldn't call it an upgrade, really. :3
You'd be better off downloading Mozilla Firefox. It's faster and a lot safer than IE.

 

[Sketcher]

Assuming your browser cache is on the SSD, you should see a bit of a speed increase, but hardwarewise, most Web page loading is bound to your bandwidth, CPU, and RAM.

 

[paul1149]

It's an interesting question. Because the browser is integrated with the shell, the two flavors are probably significantly different. IE10 for Win7 came out well after the Win8 version. All I can tell you is IE10 for Win7 runs quite badly here, on very adequate hardware. IE is my last choice in browsers.

 

[Unix]

If someone has an answers to my questions in the OP, please post!

paul1149, I really do prefer IE. One of the reasons is that it seems to be the only browser where I can do settings to allow or disallow it to refresh webpages. I've been mostly using a very slow internet connection (GSM 3G broadband), and Christianforums works much faster if I first log in to CF with automatic updating, then switch it to never update. Also any other webpages I want from the cache load faster with never update. I have more reasons too, just can think of many right now as I'm in a hurry to go to work.
And the web-browser doesn't have to be super-fast, cutting down on online time would be a good idea for me. The main problem why my browser has been slow, is because I have very inadequate RAM, but I'm trying to invoice a customer right now that I served with my pedicab to get money quickly and upgrade to 7.6 GB available:

IE is my last choice in browsers.

 

[paul1149]

Unix - you did ask if pages act up in IE, and they do here on Win7/32 - mostly via a really slow start up.

Opera has the ability to check documents at your setting, every 5 minutes... hour... day... or never. It also has a separate image setting that does the same thing, so you can refresh the page without refreshing the images, or vice-versa.

Another thing Opera offers is Turbo, in which data is stored compressed on Opera servers. They developed this mainly because Opera is used on a lot of phones.

Whether these features survive Opera's move underway to the Chromium engine, I don't know.

 

[Unix]

Yes, and if there is someone who has upgraded to W8 still using IE10 who can tell me if there's an exactly equal amount of problems?:

Unix - you did ask if pages act up in IE, and they do here on Win7/32 - mostly via a really slow start up.

I have tried out Opera at school in the Fall 2012 and was not convinced, one disadvantage with Opera, Firefox and Chrome is that they can't save in .mht nor open that, and have no equivalent file format for that and I used that feature frequently for important things, so I have no reason whatsoever to change browser:

Opera has the ability to check documents at your setting, every 5 minutes... hour... day... or never. It also has a separate image setting that does the same thing, so you can refresh the page without refreshing the images, or vice-versa.

 

[paul1149]

Opera natively handles .mht very nicely. Not sure if it still will once the switch to chromium is made.

 

[Unix]

I was able to view source code of a saved document with Opera back in the Fall 2012 but had no other use for that browser. When I got IE10 in february 2013 it was better on some things, I don't remember which since I was unable to compare Opera and IE10 on the same computer

I'm not interested in changing browser. I just want to know what I gain if I upgrade to W8, so if anyone has experienced any difference I would like to know.:

Opera natively handles .mht very nicely. Not sure if it still will once the switch to chromium is made.

 

[C-Man]

All you'd get is the broken Metro interface.

 

[Unix]

Not that as there are third-party softwares (I know 2) that put a regular Start menu there.

There are performance advantages with W8 due to that it's newer software and utilizes newer technology in newer CPU:s better than W7. The difference may not be big but anyway, I like my computer and am considering what to do in case the RAM upgrade only doesn't make me content.
Another advantage with W8 is that new versions of Internet Explorer will continue to be released for it, but probably not for W7.

I don't know whether I have enough incentive yet to do the OS upgrade, as I've got very few answers (I've also been asking a Bible study software specific question on Logos User Forums (no, not about Logos's performance)):

All you'd get is the broken Metro interface.

 

[C-Man]

It might run a little faster, but the frustration factor kills it. Even Vista would be better.

 

[Esdra]

I would stay with Windows 7. It's IMO quite stable in the meantime.
And Microsoft will release upgrades for various software for W7 for quite a time still.
I would wait with the upgrade to windows 8, until it's more stable. In the Beginning all Microsoft Software aren't really stable.

I must say, I'm quite satisfied with Windows 7. IMO it's the best OS from Microsoft since Windows XP (which I have been using a very long time, until I bought my notebook with Windows 7 preinstalled last year.)

 

[Unix]

I wouldn't be bothered at all by a bit of unstableness.

Waiting is no option for me. Either I upgrade now or newer upgrade this computer (nor my older laptop which wouldn't benefit from W8 anyway as it's Core 2 Duo (1.3 GHz)). Why not benefit from the new OS as soon as possible?

But no, I'm not decided and I received no further replies at Logos User Forums yet:

I would stay with Windows 7. It's IMO quite stable in the meantime.
[...]
I would wait with the upgrade to windows 8, until it's more stable. In the Beginning all Microsoft Software aren't really stable.

 

[Esdra]

I see.

Maybe it is a good idea to upgrade only the hardware (RAM as you have written, and SSD memory)?
And clean your Windows 7 with CCleaner (It's a shareware programme). Usually Windows is much faster if you use CCleaner regularly. (Even my old Pentium IV notebook with Windows XP ran much faster after I started using CCleaner regularly there.)
I mean, if you buy a new computer or notebook, Windows 8 will be preinstalled anyway. - And also the hardware is better and'd work better with Windows 8.

What hardware specification do you have on the computer you'd like to upgrade?

 

[Unix]

Let see if I can remember by heart:
A bit more than a year old.
W7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM pre-installed. Have one trojan, found instructions on the internet how to remove it, just haven't had time to do that yet, it seems not to do much harm as this computer has been functioning better and better. Have cleaned with Malwarebytes.com. Microsoft Security Essentials very rarely finds any virus (once under my ownership). One previous owner (girl). I would like to run with no antivirus.
"Prestandaklassificering" 3.9 (unsure what that's in English but it says in the System Preferences window).
Turning Windows Air or whatever it's called graphics and such off makes it much faster.
CPU: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics <- had to look that up. 1.65 GHz. Dual Core.
1.6 GB RAM available (two memory slots). Unsure of the speed but I think it's half the speed (800 MHz or something) of modern RAM.
Office 2010 Starter pre-installed, Word opens slow. The ad doesn't bother me but takes up some monitor space.
HDD (doesn't matter really what size: 0.3 TB.)
Fan on all the time, sound doesn't bother me anymore.
Good keyboard. Just that there's some software related problem: the text prompt suddenly jumps somewhere while typing. No numerical keypad.
1366*768 pixels. 15.6".
Built-in magnesium frame.
Good trackpad.
Battery always charges to 100%, which is a disadvantage compared to Samsung laptops that can be set to charge to 80% which gives a year more or something. Battery is in decent shape: 3½ hours life with HDD working quite a bit but monitor a bit dimmed.

I'll be buying an external keyboard, mainly for the older laptop. www.trulyergonomic.com:

What hardware specification do you have on the computer you'd like to upgrade?

 

[Esdra]

Processor isn't so good. AMD E-450 is usually used for very cheap notebooks.
I wouldn't buy this processor.

You really should try to get rid of the Trojan! They usually do harm your computer, if not now, then later. Try to use Avast!. I think it is the best freeware Antivir available.
And maybe also try to install Spybot. As Trojans often put malware and adware on your computer.
Windows without an Antivir will never work, I tell you. Also make sure to switch on Windows Firewall. A Free Antivir programme and the Windows Firewall and regularly update Windows, and you'll be fine.

I know that you are a fan of IE10, but I as a computer-engineer, would also recommend you not to use it, but use Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox instead. IE10 has some severe security issues. (Still, I believe.)

The Graphics card is quite good. I also have it in my notebook. (And also a Nvidia Geforce).

The thing with the text prompt jumping is not a software, but a hardware problem. The Trackpad is too sensitive and when you type and touch the trackpad by chance, the text prompt will jump. I had that on my old notebook as well. I then simply switched off the trackpad and used a notebook mouse and everything was fine.

Hope that helps,
Esdra

If you don't want to buy Office 2010, I can recommend you LibreOffice and deinstall the starter pack of Microsoft Office 2010. Your computer will go much faster.
Also, deinstall all other preinstalled shareware programmes (like games) from your notebook. I always do that first, when I buy a new notebook. The performance of the device will get much better.

Also, back to your processor, I'm unsure if Windows 8 would do well on a notebook with a dualcore processor. Probably not.

 

[Unix]

But I think it probably will!:

Processor isn't so good. AMD E-450 is usually used for very cheap notebooks.
I wouldn't buy this processor.
[...] Also, back to your processor, I'm unsure if Windows 8 would do well on a notebook with a dualcore processor. Probably not.

Well, it has multiple language spell check which seems pretty good!:

I know that you are a fan of IE10, but I as a computer-engineer, would also recommend you not to use it, but use Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox instead. IE10 has some severe security issues. (Still, I believe.)

That's great because the Bible Study software I use the most (Logos desktop app) is graphics card intense!:

The Graphics card is quite good.

How do I switch it off and can it be switched on easily as I sometimes need to carry it with me?:

I then simply switched off the trackpad and used a notebook mouse and everything was fine.

Well, I'll be using some Word macros at some point, to convert .txt or .html for the Bible Study software so that I'll be able to read it as books!:

If you don't want to buy Office 2010, I can recommend you LibreOffice and deinstall the starter pack of Microsoft Office 2010. Your computer will go much faster.

 

[Unix]

Here's more concerns: macros. Should I stick with Word 2010 or upgrade to 2013? - Logos Bible Software Forums ... read the 4:12 PM post!

 

[EphesiaNZ]

Here's more concerns: macros. Should I stick with Word 2010 or upgrade to 2013? - Logos Bible Software Forums ... read the 4:12 PM post!

Yes, vendor lock in is a very big concern.