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If Theism is a belief in God, and polytheism is a belief in gods; what is evolutionism?
My point is that "evolutionism" is an effective word in communications.
It may not be techspeak quality; but it is effective in the common sense.
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A silly neologism obviously.
I get that it's meant to refer to a religious belief in evolution but the word fairy is meant to refer to small supernatural beings with insect wings. Neither thing exists. That's my point. Why make up more words for non-exist ant things? Aren't there enough?
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Proponents of YEC, says they "know" what happen 6000 years ago, but yet they seams not to know what happen 2-300 years ago when naturalists, like James Hutton, went out in the fields and tried to find evidence for the flood. Many of these naturalists was also convinced the flood had happen and tried to establish evidence for it but somehow they, also, changed their mind about it. Such stories ought to make a believer in the flood curious in what they found and why these naturalists concluded as they did.
It seams from my perspective that, somehow, "gods own creation" is not god enough as evidence for some proponents of YEC. Maybe this is why "gods own creation" is not god enough as evidence:
Can A Creationist Admit That They Are Wrong? The Answer Scares All Christians. - YouTube
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Hmmm ... you're entitled to your assessment.
I don't think most share your sentiment, though.
And for those who don't, they certainly aren't 'babbling.'
I always looked at evolutionism as "a belief in evolution" -- not, "a religious belief in evolution"; but then I would assume the context of the conversation would determine which of the two applies.
The point I'm trying to make here, is that you shouldn't just go around telling people they are 'babbling' when they use a neologism.
It's not beyond me to coin a word on the spot during a conversation, if I feel it will facilitate the flow of ideas.
"Embedded Age Creation" is one of my inventions.
I know of no other person who calls it that; and until I come up with something more descriptive, I generally go with that.
Making up new words is how we communicate effectively.
What would you call a cell phone today, using 18th century expressions?
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It takes a 9:40 youtube presentation to answer a simple question?
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Effective for those pushing a Creationist agenda. We don't talk about gravity-ism, or germ-ism, or quantum-ism. No other theory seems to have an -ism attached to it. The purpose of adding an -ism to evolution is to make it appear as though it isn't a scientific theory, but an ideology.
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It may be an effective word (for some) in misleading propaganda, insinuating, as it does, that acceptance of evolution is a belief system comparable with religions.
The problems are that
1) It denigrates religions
2) It is silly. Do we say, "atomism" for those who "believe" in atoms? "Gravitationalism" for those who "believe" in theories of gravity? Are Newton gravitationalists heretics to Einstinian ones, and vice-versa?
3) People who are not creationists accept modern geology, astronomy, physics, cosmology etc. Why pick out evolutionary theory?
I suggest you use "non-creationists" rather then "evolutionists".
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Dear me.
Please don't let paranoia get in the way of effective communication.
So?
You don't talk about gravity-ists, or germ-ists, or quantum-ists either; yet you do use evolution-ist.
What's an evolution-ist without evolution-ism?
Does that mean that if someone attaches one, it is because he is "babbling" or "pushing an agenda"?
How do you know?
As I said before, the context should determine the definition.
Granted, I think "Theory of Evolutionism" is inappropriate; but "evolutionism" isn't.
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Well, it appears that I'm not going to be able to cut through you guys' paranoia.
I've made my point ... for what it's worth.
Oh, please ...
Yes -- if you believe said atoms are indivisible.
Atomism: belief that the universe consists of small indivisible particles.
Or what? your paranoia will show?
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Archaeopteryx
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No I don't.
In this case, it is about making Creation-ism and "evolution-ism" appear as though they share the same stage.
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