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Lethal injection is not Biblical.

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From an economic viewpoint,keeping on in prison on a life sentence is more expensive for the upkeep of a life prisoner.
Automatic appeals for condemned prisoners cost a lot of money too,but not as much as a lifer does.
 
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Very little, so long as you are not picky about having the correct person.

Very true...however, there are certain cases that are airtight that still end up with decades of appeals before the execution takes place (Like the example I provided of Tookie Williams

Can anyone provide a sensible reason why this one dragged out for decades and millions of dollars?

Multiple Murders
When tried for those murders, threatening jurors
When convicted and put in prison, assaulting guards

For the folks who vehemently oppose capital punishment, I propose a new program...adopt a murderer. If someone commits a murder and gets the sentence, if someone opposes it that much, they can agree to chip in pick up the tab for that murderers food, housing, clothing, medical care.
 
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How much does it even cost to execute someone? Even fiing squad sounds cheap.. Only takes one bullet though.

I'm talking about the appeals process,and in the mean time,room and board,medical,payroll for the COs..all cost..I'm not sure how much the actual execution costs.
 
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Wow so expensive... I would hope they have the evidence of the crime.. Then just take them to an empty room and... Finish the job lol. I think death penalty is bad, but it beats life in prison.... Sitting in a cell your whole life seems like Hell.

I would rather repent my sins, than accept the death, if I had to choose between the two. No extra costs to petition or put me on trial again. Just do it swiftly...
 
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Wow so expensive... I would hope they have the evidence of the crime.. Then just take them to an empty room and... Finish the job lol. I think death penalty is bad, but it beats life in prison.... Sitting in a cell your whole life seems like Hell.

I would rather repent my sins, than accept the death, if I had to choose between the two. No extra costs to petition or put me on trial again. Just do it swiftly...

Your scene above presupposes that you are actually GUILTY of the crime for which you've been sentenced.
This is why I'm in favor of CP ONLY in the cases where there is NO doubt as to the matter of guilt. Hitler, Breivik, cases like that where the question of guilt is not an actual question.
 
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I think instead of prison, we should send some people to work camps and make them build out military equipment for no cost. But we'd have to inspect them after... cause you know, they might make them wrong on purpose :p

Or make them build iphones for 10 hours a day. Hard labor builds character 8) (or not)
 
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I think instead of prison, we should send some people to work camps and make them build out military equipment for no cost. But we'd have to inspect them after... cause you know, they might make them wrong on purpose :p

Or make them build iphones for 10 hours a day. Hard labor builds character 8) (or not)
And when you do that, you have for-profit prisons with a vested interest in maintaining as many prisoners as they can for as long as they can as a source of legal slave labor.
 
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There's a fine line between justice and revenge.

And how is "He/she has committed murder (maybe MASS murder) - they have lost their right to life" not just?
Revenge, would be saying: "You killed one from my family, that means I kill one from your family".
Making a murderer pay the price for his/her crime is not revenge. It is justice. To not accept this, is to let the monsters off the hook.
 
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