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Lethal injection is not Biblical.

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Usethepen, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. RDKirk

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    Actually, the loudest protests came from those who were required to administer the penalties.

    Amazing, isn't it? A lot of the "executioners" turned out to be decent human beings, willing. It's pretty easy for people whose job description doesn't include pulling the switch to demand more blood.
     
  2. QuiltAngel

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    The original poster is saying here that it stems from republicans, yet there is no proof that it came from one party or the other. The move for lethal injection is nonpartisan as far as I can tell.
     
  3. SolomonVII

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    We all receive the death penalty.
    Deaths sting however is nowhere to be found, because of Easter.
     
  4. QuiltAngel

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    YES!! Thanks be to God.
     
  5. Usethepen

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    Now that we have gone this far down the road,
    I must ask,

    Would you perform an execution yourself ?

    Is it wrong to ask someone else to do such a job you would not do yourself?
     
  6. I Eat Pie

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    The death penalty and stricter jailing made the crime rate in Los Angeles city drop every year for decades.

    Keep the death penalty. The city is a lot better off with the death penalty. Firing squad, lethal injection, electric chair, idc.
     
  7. gnomon

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    Passover is a holiday commemorating God killing the first born children of Egypt. How is lethal injection not Biblical except that the technology did not exist in Biblical times. I mean, if God is going to personally kill every first born child of Egypt to state that lethal injection is not Biblical can only be taken from a technological viewpoint. Well, that and a mass exodus with zero evidence to it's existence outside the Bible but let's not ignore what's written in the Bible.

    I oppose State sanctioned death penalties but I don't require some ancient texts for that.
     
  8. Redac

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    Citation needed.
     
  9. I Eat Pie

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    Just wikipedia it. Gangs have been getting bigger, but crime has been decreasing, becauase now that we have harsher penalties, people dkn't want to get in trouble anymore. I'd give the links but I'm on the phone now, not on the computer.
     
  10. RDKirk

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    So I discover in Wikipedia that California executed 13 people between 1978 and 2006...and not a single person since 2006.

    So what "the death penalty and stricter jailing made the crime rate in Los Angeles city drop every year for decades" are you talking about?

    Serious crime has been dropping in most metropolitan areas over the last couple of decades--there are more things happening besides changes in penalties.
     
  11. Hawisher

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    Things you just did wrong: ignored any confounding variables, implied correlation proves causation, and got your basic facts wrong.

    Never mind that statistically, higher enforcement is much more beneficial to crime rates than stiffer penalties.
     
  12. I Eat Pie

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    Did you come up with that all by yourself?
     
  13. Hawisher

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    Are you going to actually respond to the points I raised? Namely, that the usage of the death penalty is declining, that correlation does not equate with causation, and that there could be (even if harsher penalties were on the rise) any number of other reasons for the decline in crime?
     
  14. freezerman2000

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    Actually,the "eye for eye,tooth for tooth" was brought on the scene so that punishments would not go over board.
    Remember that Christ was flogged 39 times? If the soldier flogging him hit 40 times,HE would receive the same..under Roman law.39 was the official cut off point.
    By the axiom's reasoning,no more than the original offence could be meted out to the convicted.

    Why do you think that the average time between sentencing and being put to death is around 10 years..at the least? TIME ON DEATH ROW | Death Penalty Information Center
     
  15. RDKirk

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    Yes! It served to prevent unending blood feuds. What it really meant was, "If he takes your eye you can no more than his eye."

    That did not originate, btw, in the OT. It also appears in the Law of Hammurabi.

    The major difference of the Mosaic Law was the concept of equal justice under the law across economic and social groups. Hammurabi specified that "eye for eye, tooth for tooth" only applied for crimes when the victim and perpetrator were of the same socio-economic group.
     
  16. I Eat Pie

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    Well what do you mean by higher enforcement? More cops? Because I mentioned that.
     
  17. Hawisher

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    More cops is one way to achieve an increase in the percentage of committed crimes that result in punishment, yes.
     
  18. I Eat Pie

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    Well I did mention that part. If we can have more cops, or drones, then we can help stop these mass murders, and then won't need the dearh penalty. But I still think we ahould keep it, in case something happens. Putting someone in prison for the rest of their life is pointless...
     
  19. Desk trauma

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    It has the same point and effect that executing them does. They are removed from society and no longer a threat to it.
     
  20. Hawisher

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    From a religious point of view, time they spend in prison is time in which they could be converted to Christianity. From an economic standpoint, executions cost a lot of money.
     
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