What's your philosophy for Hell? Hell only?

[SavedByChrist94]

It's irrelevant because Hell does not exist.

Where's your proof? because you already know I have proof that it exists. also this disproves your "lack of belief", you made an Assertion against God's existence which even without proof is false. however with The Facts that God exists and Jesus Is God, Hell exists whether you like the fact or not.

Don't erase it now because this is proof, you do not "lack belief" but you are a Religious "atheist".

However, if it did exist, what would be the point?

Oh I don't know what's the point of prison? To Punish evil and sins.

Also keep the watch as I am writing rebuttals to all in the challenge thread, you will be void of excuses for your "atheist" religion and stuck with The Objective Reality That Jesus Christ Resurrected from the dead and that God is The Trinity of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.

 

[Dave Ellis]

Where's your proof? because you already know I have proof that it exists. also this disproves your "lack of belief", you made an Assertion against God's existence which even without proof is false. however with The Facts that God exists and Jesus Is God, Hell exists whether you like the fact or not.

Don't erase it now because this is proof, you do not "lack belief" but you are a Religious "atheist".

As for Hell, my proof is that Hell was made up after the rise of Christianity. Jews have no concept of Hell, so the idea has not always existed within your own religion. We can point to the timeframe when the early Christians incorporated the concept into their belief system.

Oh I don't know what's the point of prison? To Punish evil and sins.

Also keep the watch as I am writing rebuttals to all in the challenge thread, you will be void of excuses for your "atheist" religion and stuck with The Objective Reality That Jesus Christ Resurrected from the dead and that God is The Trinity of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.

Right, but you are sent to prison for a set amount of time. In the case of major crimes, it may be beyond someone's lifespan, however there is still a finite amount of time to the sentence.

Your god on the other hand would impose infinite punishment by way of torture, which I think is appallingly immoral, considering he designed the person that way.

 

[Rajni]

The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God. It is a worthy scare tactic!

However, there is no fear in love, since fear has to do with punishment. Perfect love casts out fear.

 

[dlamberth]

The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God. It is a worthy scare tactic!

In the wisdom traditions, as I understand them, the beginning of wisdom is Love, not fear.

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[Eudaimonist]

Where's your proof?

Where's your proof that Mordor doesn't exist?

because you already know I have proof that it exists.

No, we don't know that. We know that you believe that you have such proof, but that's not the same thing as having proof.

The Facts that God exists and Jesus Is God, Hell exists whether you like the fact or not.

And if it is a Fact that God doesn't exist, that would be true whether you like the fact or not.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Dave Ellis]

Where's your proof that Mordor doesn't exist?

In fairness it would be incredibly difficult, as one does not simply walk into Mordor...

 

[Gottservant]

If you don´t have any concept of Hell - why is it that you expect me to have a philosophy that deals with your concept of Hell?
And why the heck did you describe your concept of Hell when you don´t have any?

What do you think I'm going to say "I have a concept of Hell and I'm going to tell you what it is, so that when you get there, you have time to use it on me before I use it on you"? Of course I don't have a concept of Hell, I haven't been there!

What I described was my philosophy of Hell. Philosophy doesn't need concepts.

 

[quatona]

What do you think I'm going to say "I have a concept of Hell and I'm going to tell you what it is, so that when you get there, you have time to use it on me before I use it on you"?

No, more like: "I have this and this concept of Hell so that when I get there it is easier tolerable for me."
Practically your own question to the rest of us.

What I described was my philosophy of Hell. Philosophy doesn't need concepts.

Whut?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Philosophy doesn't need concepts.

eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[super animator]

It's irrelevant because Hell does not exist.

That quite a claim, any evidence?

 

[Dave Ellis]

That quite a claim, any evidence?

The concept of hell doesn't even exist within Judaism, the forerunner of Christianity. We can point to the specific timeframe that the idea of heaven and hell entered Christian Theology.

That would strongly indicate that the concepts are simply man made ideas.

 

[Gottservant]

No, more like: "I have this and this concept of Hell so that when I get there it is easier tolerable for me."
Practically your own question to the rest of us.

Whut?

How could it be a philosophy of Hell if I had a concept of what it was?

My philosophy is no concept is necessary, ergo all the people who go to Hell thinking "there must be a concept" suffer... while I do not, thinking on what I like.

 

[quatona]

How could it be a philosophy of Hell if I had a concept of what it was?

How can you have a philosophy of something you don´t even have a concept of?

My philosophy is no concept is necessary, ergo all the people who go to Hell thinking "there must be a concept" suffer... while I do not, thinking on what I like.

I´m afraid I don´t understand what you are trying to say here.
As far as I am concerned, afterlife-hell doesn´t play any part in my philosophy.

 

[Gottservant]

You don't get it.

You might try later.

"And when you think I care, I will be mistaken"

 

[quatona]

You don't get it.

You might try later.

"And when you think I care, I will be mistaken"

Whatever.

 

[Gottservant]

Whatever.

Interestingly, whatever is not a concept, either (it is a word for a sum of referents, which leads to a concept, in itself being no more than a referent, granted a referent among referents, but by no means a concept).

Some people are happy with whatever.

Then in Hell they realize they can't have whatever.

 

[quatona]

Interestingly, whatever is not a concept, either.
(it is a word for a sum of referents, which leads to a concept, in itself being no more than a referent, granted a referent among referents, but by no means a concept).

Some people are happy with whatever.

Then in Hell they realize they can't have whatever.

 

[Dave Ellis]

Interestingly, whatever is not a concept, either (it is a word for a sum of referents, which leads to a concept, in itself being no more than a referent, granted a referent among referents, but by no means a concept).

Some people are happy with whatever.

Then in Hell they realize they can't have whatever.

Please cite your sources, how do you know hell exists, and that people there can't have whatever?

 

[Rajni]

Then in Hell they realize they can't have whatever.

Likewise, once finds oneself in the realization of an Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent God, they can't have hell. The two concepts just don't mesh.

 

[Gottservant]

That's not it.