Scientific Noah's flood.

[juvenissun]

Ah, but that won't tell me how YOU think the process works, will it?

Please explain it in your own terms.

Anyway, I did google it, and got THIS. Which of those pages is the best one? The year five reader? The pages that tells me how to make "Fossils" out of coffee grounds? The pages about fossil fuels?

Fossil recycling (formal name: reworked fossils) is an concept in stratigraphy/paleontology of sophomore level in college. For you, just accept this idea and don't ask unnecessary question about it. It is not a content of creationism.

 

[Tiberius]

Fossil recycling (formal name: reworked fossils) is an concept in stratigraphy/paleontology of sophomore level in college. For you, just accept this idea and don't ask unnecessary question about it. It is not a content of creationism.

No, I won't just accept your claims without a source to back them up.

If you are right and it really is a concept in stratigraphy/paleontology of sophomore level in college, then provide a source which explains it. I'm not going to just take your word for it.

 

[SkyWriting]

In other words, you're just making excuses for why there's no evidence and then claiming that your flood idea must be true?

I've never claimed anything about Christianity must be true.
I say there is no scientific support for miracles because the
Bible shows there will be no support for them.

 

[SkyWriting]

LOL!
How many offspring did Jesus have?
The law of nature states that an individual must have a number of offspring that are well suited for their environments and any misfits are eaten or die off from starvation before they reproduce. Only the offspring that are "fit" are "allowed" by this law to live and the rest must perish to leave behind resources for the best fit.

OK



1. Only the fit shall inherit the earth.
2. Nothing happens with a purpose
3. All of design is by accident.
4. Death decides what is best or not.
5. Life is a natural event.
6. Having offspring is the only way to eternal life.

Have you a list of all God's laws that parallel this?
Do you have some Scriptural Laws that are "interchangeable" then?
Please list.

 

[Tiberius]

I've never claimed anything about Christianity must be true.
I say there is no scientific support for miracles because the
Bible shows there will be no support for them.

Do you think that the Bible's claims about miracles are true?

 

[SkyWriting]

Do you think that the Bible's claims about miracles are true?

I do. And without any direct proof of those written about.
But I have direct proof of OTHER events that lead me to
believe and trust that the documented ones are factual.

The entire Bible is the same. Some parts are down-right weird.
But I have confirmation on enough of the less weird parts to
be able to accept the entire collection as the True Word of God.

 

[mzungu]

That is referring to the law. There is no mention of man being required to obey and follow the law until the end of time as you claim below.

You are joking aren't you? The laws clearly refer to humans and how they should behave in society and towards God. Dear me

And nothing about personal interpretation.

"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

 

[Jamin4422]

Do you think that the Bible's claims about miracles are true?

Of course miracles are true, or none of us would be here. You can not prove a miracle because a miracle restores everything back to God plan, purpose and intention. So there is no evidence that there was ever a problem in the first place. They usually just say someone must have made a mistake somewhere but everything is just fine now. Everything is normal, no problems. Funny how quick we forget that there was ever a problem in the first place. When God restores this world there will not be that much evidence that the world was ever in the fallen condition that we find it in right now. Only in Isa do we read there will be a reminder of the rebellion against God.

66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“‘Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]10[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel.[/FONT]

 

[mzungu]

Of course miracles are true, or none of us would be here. You can not prove a miracle because a miracle restores everything back to God plan, purpose and intention. So there is no evidence that there was ever a problem in the first place. They usually just say someone must have made a mistake somewhere but everything is just fine now. Everything is normal, no problems. Funny how quick we forget that there was ever a problem in the first place.

Funny how miracles stopped happening after Biblical times eh

 

[RickG]

Fossil recycling (formal name: reworked fossils) is an concept in stratigraphy/paleontology of sophomore level in college. For you, just accept this idea and don't ask unnecessary question about it. It is not a content of creationism.

That is a great exaggeration juvenissum. Fossil recycling is certainly not any terminology used in the geological sciences. It must be one of those fabricated terms originating in the ICR (et al) literature like Polystrate. Of course, if one obtains their earth science information from the ICR and other such places, then it is obvious that they learn nothing about stratigraphy or stratigraphic petrology. Sorry, but that is just a fact. Utilizing ideologically biased reasoning which ignores and even denies many well substantiated facts and physical laws is not science by any stretch of the imagination.

Having said that, there are a few documented incidences where some fossils have weathered out of a formation and have been transported to another formation. The difference in what you are suggesting is that such weathering and transportation is readily recognized and understood by competent geologist and paleontologists. Fossils are not recycled in the sense you are suggesting.

 

[juvenissun]

That is a great exaggeration juvenissum. Fossil recycling is certainly not any terminology used in the geological sciences. It must be one of those fabricated terms originating in the ICR (et al) literature like Polystrate. Of course, if one obtains their earth science information from the ICR and other such places, then it is obvious that they learn nothing about stratigraphy or stratigraphic petrology. Sorry, but that is just a fact. Utilizing ideologically biased reasoning which ignores and even denies many well substantiated facts and physical laws is not science by any stretch of the imagination.

Having said that, there are a few documented incidences where some fossils have weathered out of a formation and have been transported to another formation. The difference in what you are suggesting is that such weathering and transportation is readily recognized and understood by competent geologist and paleontologists. Fossils are not recycled in the sense you are suggesting.

Recycled fossil is a term I used for lay people and for interpretation. It is more clear and understandable than its former term. Literally, it is a 100% correct term.

 

[mzungu]

Recycled fossil is a term I used for lay people and for interpretation. It is more clear and understandable than its former term. Literally, it is a 100% correct term.

The only recycled fossils I have come across was in the form of aggregates; We had a limestone quarry and crushed the limestone into aggregates for road building!

 

[juvenissun]

The only recycled fossils I have come across was in the form of aggregates; We had a limestone quarry and crushed the limestone into aggregates for road building!

If so, you ain't see nothing yet.

Be a geologist (too late?). It will open your eyes.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Be a geologist (too late?). It will open your eyes.

Advice you would do well to heed yourself. But it appears that it really might be too late.

 

[mzungu]

If so, you ain't see nothing yet.

Be a geologist (too late?). It will open your eyes.

If I were you I would go back to a real school; preferably in Europe where ideas such as yours are not the norm as they seem to be in the US. After you complete your education then perhaps you may come work at our quarry as a blasting technician!

 

[AV1611VET]

If I were you I would go back to a real school; preferably in Europe where ideas such as yours are not the norm as they seem to be in the US.

The Pilgrims turned their back on Europe and came here; why would we want to go back to Europe (unless we're atheists)?

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

The Pilgrims turned their back on Europe and came here; why would we want to go back to Europe (unless we're atheists)?

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

Probably not a good idea to pursue the comparison of Europe to a dog's vomit.

 

[Loudmouth]

Of course miracles are true, or none of us would be here. You can not prove a miracle because a miracle restores everything back to God plan, purpose and intention. So there is no evidence that there was ever a problem in the first place. They usually just say someone must have made a mistake somewhere but everything is just fine now. Everything is normal, no problems. Funny how quick we forget that there was ever a problem in the first place. When God restores this world there will not be that much evidence that the world was ever in the fallen condition that we find it in right now. Only in Isa do we read there will be a reminder of the rebellion against God.

It's funny how theists will define miracles in such a way that they are identical to miracles not happening at all. It's almost as if they know they are selling snake oil.

 

[Jamin4422]

It's funny how theists will define miracles in such a way that they are identical to miracles not happening at all. It's almost as if they know they are selling snake oil.

There is power in positive thinking. That is why business and sports hire motivational speakers to get their people going and to improve production. Even if all they are selling is "snake oil" that is still very productive. Although usually the snake oil was a very powerful drug that did more harm then good. That is why the government has to regulate all of that.

 

[Jamin4422]

Probably not a good idea to pursue the comparison of Europe to a dog's vomit.

I am a descendant of one of bloody marys first victims. Our ancestors came to this country to escape persecution and find freedom from the conditions that were in europe. Why would anyone want to return to that?