I don't see anyone saying that no joy is to be expected in return. I see them saying that that should not be a requirement each and every time.
Wow! I guess this is where the disagreement really lies. The fact that women shouldn't expect joy in their sex each and every time. If the purpose of sex isn't joy -- and is, instead a "simple" household chore -- it's no wonder that many, many women object to the antibiblical viewpoint. It turns them into prostitutes or mere unpaid "labor" and turns sex into a chore devoid of the bonding and intimacy that it should confer on both parties.
It's sad.
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