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Religion does not have "proof". proof is for science and the physical world.
Wrong, I'm afraid. Proof is for logic and mathematics. The best science can hope for is evidence.

"Results from the WMAP team in 2008, which combined data from the CMB and other sources, indicate that the contributions to mass/energy density in the Universe today are approximately 73% dark energy, 23% dark matter, 4.6% regular matter" - WiKi
You cannot say you understand the universe if 96% of it is not understood.
Incidentally, you managed to round 4.6 to 4... did 95% not sound big enough? ^_^
 
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Correct.

The universe is sustained by God-energy even as human life is sustained by human blood.

God-energy flows through the veins of the universe.

"For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible...He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." (Col 1:17).
What is your evidence for this claim? :confused:
 
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Wrong, I'm afraid. Proof is for logic and mathematics. The best science can hope for is evidence.
People say there is no evidence for global warming, people say there is no evidence for evolution. People say there is no evidence for God. Some people say there is no evidence that the earth is more then 6,000 years old. Some people say there is no evidence that the universe is 14 billion years old. It is all the same, no one is going to force anyone to believe if they do not want to believe and accept the evidence.
 
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People say there is no evidence for global warming, people say there is no evidence for evolution. People say there is no evidence for God. Some people say there is no evidence that the earth is more then 6,000 years old. Some people say there is no evidence that the universe is 14 billion years old. It is all the same, no one is going to force anyone to believe if they do not want to believe and accept the evidence.
Some people say the Earth is flat, but this does not make it so!
 
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I suggest we send all creationists to an island devoid of any instrument and amenities that are a direct result of scientific endeavour and see how long they will survive. Oh we could also send in some lice infested rats that carry the plague!
Excuse me you just put your foot in your mouth. The Jews were following the teachings of Moses in the Bible and they did not have a plague. If Europe had followed the Bible and cleaned up their garbage rather then expecting the rats to carry it off, then they would not have had a plague. Even today the American Heart Ass is just starting to catch up with the diet that Moses gave us 3500 years ago. Although a lot of other areas in science is still very mixed up and confused about what people should eat.

If we follow your plan than you have to give up everything that was given to you by a Christian scientist. Which is just about everything in science because Christians are inspired by God. So you are the one that would end up on the island if it were not for Christianity and their contribution to science.

Many of the early scientists were Christians (Copernicus, Galileo, Pascal, Isaac Newton, Carl Linnaeus, Johannes Keppler, Robert Boyle, Louis Pasteur, Jean Henri Fabre, Michael Faraday, John Ambrose Fleming, Max Planck etc.).
 
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Some people say the Earth is flat, but this does not make it so!
Atheistic Science tells us the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth. They got the dead harlot church to go along with them. It was actually a Christian Copernicus that told us the Earth revolves around the Sun. You better clean up Science because those atheists are messing everything up. It is just one error after another with them, because they do not have God to lead them in the way to go. If it were not for Christianity the atheists would have destoryed this world 50 years ago.
 
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Atheistic Science tells us the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth. They got the dead harlot church to go along with them. It was actually a Christian Copernicus that told us the Earth revolves around the Sun. You better clean up Science because those atheists are messing everything up. It is just one error after another with them, because they do not have God to lead them in the way to go. If it were not for Christianity the atheists would have destoryed this world 50 years ago.
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I don't know what to say. If you are still so willfully ignorant after three and a half years of discussion on these boards, then I have no real desire to talk to you anymore, about anything.
 
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Atheistic Science tells us the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth. They got the dead harlot church to go along with them. It was actually a Christian Copernicus that told us the Earth revolves around the Sun. You better clean up Science because those atheists are messing everything up. It is just one error after another with them, because they do not have God to lead them in the way to go. If it were not for Christianity the atheists would have destoryed this world 50 years ago.
 
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Atheistic Science tells us the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth. They got the dead harlot church to go along with them. It was actually a Christian Copernicus that told us the Earth revolves around the Sun. You better clean up Science because those atheists are messing everything up. It is just one error after another with them, because they do not have God to lead them in the way to go. If it were not for Christianity the atheists would have destoryed this world 50 years ago.
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I love that kind of logic.

For centuries now, Christianity has one thing hammered into the collective mind of society: Christianity is "Truth". It is good and right and true... so if something is good and right and true, it must be christian.

And because all non-Christians are the children of the father of lies, their positions are as evil and wrong and false as vice verse: if something is evil and wrong and false, it must be based on satanic lies (atheism, for some).

So when something is shown to be correct (or even only accepted by a 'Christian' to be correct...) it becomes Christian! And that what is false, becomes Satanic!

And so Copernicus changes from heretic to "true Christian"... and geocentrism becomes "atheistic science".

*facepalm*
 
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For centuries now, Christianity has one thing hammered into the collective mind of society: Christianity is "Truth".
Maybe your version of Christianity, but God's version goes like this:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


1. Jesus is the Truth.
2. The Bible is the Truth.

We Christians don't sit around and wonder why you guys don't believe us, or the Bible, or even call God a deceiver.

We know why:

John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
 
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Maybe your version of Christianity, but God's version goes like this:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


1. Jesus is the Truth.
2. The Bible is the Truth.

We Christians don't sit around and wonder why you guys don't believe us, or the Bible, or even call God a deceiver.

We know why:

John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Spare me your literalist yakking.... the intelligent people got my point.

"Jesus is the Truth. The Bible is the Truth. What I tell you Jesus and the Bible really means is Truth."

And all that repeated long enough and often enough so that generations of people have accepted that without question. It is so entrenched in society - the very depraved, unsaved, evil, secular, atheistic, harlot society that you "fundamentalists" so despise - that even saying something against Christianity means you are viewed as "someone who hates good".
 
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Spare me your literalist yakking.... the intelligent people got my point.
That you were wrong?
For centuries now, Christianity has one thing hammered into the collective mind of society: Christianity is "Truth".
It's sad that correcting you opens a Pandora's box of venting, isn't it?
 
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That you were wrong?

It's sad that correcting you opens a Pandora's box of venting, isn't it?

Correcting me? Where did you correct me?

Again, you simply didn't understand me. Perhaps you should remove the Arab phone plug from your ear.
 
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