911 Towers Were Exploded Outwards, Not Collapsed

[RealDealNeverstop]

"Loaded" as in having full tanks! I thought it was obvious that this is what was meant as "loaded with fuel".

Neither plane had full tanks as both only had half a tank at impact. So basically you are trying to comment without having knowledge of fundamental facts.

 

[Btodd]

ON and some of it happening on 9/11 exactly as it had been written means nothing to your camp bcause you dont have the guts to admit our nation's top military leaders planned on attacking the US. To honest people it would, in the very least, show a false flag is not as crazy as your camp tries to make it.

Once again, it doesn't matter what the government WOULD do. Appealing to Operation Northwoods, which never happened, does nothing to prove your 9/11 Inside Job.

Just like appealing to the sun having come up in the past does nothing to show that it did today.

Love the appeals to 'guts' and 'honesty' as usual, when your argument fails.


Btodd

 

[OldManAnon]

Common sense sprouts. Doing it outside a courtroom tips the hand too much because it allows a lot of time to neutralize the information. My point is it was intellectually dishonest to mislead readers in to thinking all he said was he knows of a General when clearly that is very different from him stating he is willing to name the General under oath.

You are aware that you can give information under oath outside of a courtroom correct? Especially if you feared that you were going to be killed, and that your information could save the Republic from potential treason, it's it the epitome of cowardice not to simply swear an affidavit which could be introduced into evidence should you "disappear" or "have an accident". Any doubts about admissibility would likely be completely wiped away should you also tape it while it is being administered.

 

[Supreme]

Once again, it doesn't matter what the government WOULD do. Appealing to Operation Northwoods, which never happened, does nothing to prove your 9/11 Inside Job.

Just like appealing to the sun having come up in the past does nothing to show that it did today.

Love the appeals to 'guts' and 'honesty' as usual, when your argument fails.


Btodd

Indeed. The arguments are pretty weak as it stands, but all this resorting back to what the government 'could do' is really rather desperate.

 

[Btodd]

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[WalksWithChrist]

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Isn't it a little late in the game to be editing posts? I mean, wow. I can't imagine anything you'd say that would trump what you've posted thus far!

 

[mzungu]

Neither plane had full tanks as both only had half a tank at impact. So basically you are trying to comment without having knowledge of fundamental facts.

The Boeing 767 is capable of carrying up to 23,980 gallons of fuel and it is estimated that, at the time of impact, each aircraft had approximately 10,000 gallons of unused fuel on board (compiled from Government sources). Quote from the FEMA report into the collapse of WTC's One and Two (Chapter Two); That amount of fuel is enough to cause a devastating fire! But what are we arguing here? Are you implying that the twin towers were blown up in a conspiracy? What exactly are you trying to prove?

 

[Btodd]

Isn't it a little late in the game to be editing posts? I mean, wow. I can't imagine anything you'd say that would trump what you've posted thus far!

Is there something wrong with editing out a post, if you feel the point you had made wasn't relevant? I don't see how you 'got me' there, but if it helps you sleep...


Btodd

 

[oldbetang]

Neither plane had full tanks as both only had half a tank at impact. So basically you are trying to comment without having knowledge of fundamental facts.

You may be right. However, both planes were on transcontinental flights and it seems a bit odd that they would have used up half of their fuel on their circuitous paths from Boston to New York. Were they not fully loaded at take-off?

 

[oldbetang]

The Boeing 767 is capable of carrying up to 23,980 gallons of fuel and it is estimated that, at the time of impact, each aircraft had approximately 10,000 gallons of unused fuel on board (compiled from Government sources). Quote from the FEMA report into the collapse of WTC's One and Two (Chapter Two); That amount of fuel is enough to cause a devastating fire! But what are we arguing here? Are you implying that the twin towers were blown up in a conspiracy? What exactly are you trying to prove?

That answers my question to RDNS. I knew that their capacities were 24,000 gallons but 10,000 is the number that I recall getting dumped in each tower.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

Is there something wrong with editing out a post, if you feel the point you had made wasn't relevant? I don't see how you 'got me' there, but if it helps you sleep...


Btodd

Relax. No "gotcha" there.
Just a funny observation.

You did see the laughing guy right?

 

[Btodd]

Relax. No "gotcha" there.
Just a funny observation.

You did see the laughing guy right?

Fair enough, sorry...I never know when something as innocuous as editing a post will be used as further evidence of me being a paid disinfo agent, so I'm glad to hear that wasn't your angle.


Btodd

 

[Btodd]

That answers my question to RDNS. I knew that their capacities were 24,000 gallons but 10,000 is the number that I recall getting dumped in each tower.

I think the estimates were around 10,000 gallons for each tower, if my memory serves correctly.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

The Boeing 767 is capable of carrying up to 23,980 gallons of fuel and it is estimated that, at the time of impact, each aircraft had approximately 10,000 gallons of unused fuel on board (compiled from Government sources). Quote from the FEMA report into the collapse of WTC's One and Two (Chapter Two); That amount of fuel is enough to cause a devastating fire! But what are we arguing here? Are you implying that the twin towers were blown up in a conspiracy? What exactly are you trying to prove?

Im not trying to prove anything. I proved you didn't know basic facts when you claimed the planes were fully loaded with fuel.....in their fuel tanks. Do you realize those big fireballs on impact was the jet fuel burning up? Or do you think the jet fuel magically avoided catching fire on impact?

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

You are aware that you can give information under oath outside of a courtroom correct? Especially if you feared that you were going to be killed, and that your information could save the Republic from potential treason, it's it the epitome of cowardice not to simply swear an affidavit which could be introduced into evidence should you "disappear" or "have an accident". Any doubts about admissibility would likely be completely wiped away should you also tape it while it is being administered.

How do you know he has not done what you have proposed regarding the taping? The guy is pretty bright and his bio is worth a read.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Indeed. The arguments are pretty weak as it stands, but all this resorting back to what the government 'could do' is really rather desperate.

What is desperate is celebrating strawmen.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Once again, it doesn't matter what the government WOULD do. Appealing to Operation Northwoods, which never happened, does nothing to prove your 9/11 Inside Job.

Just like appealing to the sun having come up in the past does nothing to show that it did today.

Love the appeals to 'guts' and 'honesty' as usual, when your argument fails.


Btodd

My argument did not fail since I never claimed ON proves and inside job. Im pointing out the lack of guts in your camp because not a single person has ever had the balls to address ON and how some events on 9/11 happened exactly as planned in ON.

For those who have missed it, the main reason ON matters is because it proves our nation's top military leaders planned on attacking the US for political reasons.

 

[Btodd]

My argument did not fail since I never claimed ON proves and inside job. Im pointing out the lack of guts in your camp because not a single person has ever had the balls to address ON and how some events on 9/11 happened exactly as planned in ON.

I would like to again point out your 'lack of guts' at never admitting that you used the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy to try to support your ridiculous contention about remote-controlled planes at the Pentagon, then.

Are we really gonna play this 'no, you're the dishonest one' game again?

Or do you have anything of substance in regard to your theories, other than pointing to a conspiracy that never happened to help us accept another one that didn't happen as well?

or those who have missed it, the main reason ON matters is because it proves our nation's top military leaders planned on attacking the US for political reasons.

Which ones? You're gonna have to get into a bit more detail than that. Since the plan wasn't carried out, but merely mentioned...who mentioned it? What were the results?

But as you stated above, you're not trying to prove anything. Right?


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

I would like to again point out your 'lack of guts' at never admitting that you used the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy to try to support your ridiculous contention about remote-controlled planes at the Pentagon, then.

Are we really gonna play this 'no, you're the dishonest one' game again?

Or do you have anything of substance in regard to your theories, other than pointing to a conspiracy that never happened to help us accept another one that didn't happen as well?




Which ones? You're gonna have to get into a bit more detail than that. Since the plan wasn't carried out, but merely mentioned...who mentioned it? What were the results?

But as you stated above, you're not trying to prove anything. Right?


Btodd

Did you ever find those people with less experience than hanjour who duplicated his supposed flight path? A simple yes or no......

 

[OldManAnon]

How do you know he has not done what you have proposed regarding the taping? The guy is pretty bright and his bio is worth a read.

Then why hasn't he released it? You said he wanted to wait until he could go under oath. He can go under oath at any time. He can release it. In fact, isn't it the most base form of cowardice to KNOW that there was a plot, KNOW who was involved, and yet keep your mouth shut when you've had over a decade to actually tell the people.

Hero - pft, he's a yellow bellied coward.

Pst - I have total top secret information. A former White House official once told me that the entire economic collapse was engineered by the NFL to distract from labour negotiations. Now I can't say who... or they'll totally kill me.

Trust me.