Bible-Creation-Evolution

[1611AV]

That is a good point... it just wasn´t my point.

My point - that he also missed - is that you don´t need to accept nor acknowledge a gift in order to be given it.

In fact, I just gave him another gift. Completely free, absolutely no strings attached. I gave, he got.

I wonder if he will figure out how to reject or return that gift!

How bout this then. I actually didnt receive anything. The blessings just went into a inbox on CF. I personally have received nothing from you. So your point is mute.

The real point is that you reject The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Or are you saying you want God to force you to believe Him because you refuse to on your own?

 

[Nathan Poe]

You lack spiritual understanding. You don't understand His position. One day you will.

Well, perhaps the problem is that you offered yourself as a source of such understanding -- and we all know what happens when the blind lead the sighted.

Nathan, Read the book of John. One more time. Get a King James Bible.

Got it. Read it. Still unimpressed.

I know you're trying to save face here, but is it that hard to realize you've got nothing?

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Pope is not a Bible believer or a Christian.

Well now, there's an interesting statement.

(And please note, I'm using "interesting" as a euphemism for "laughably absurd.")

 

[Nathan Poe]

How bout this then. I actually didnt receive anything. The blessings just went into a inbox on CF. I personally have received nothing from you. So your point is mute.

<vocabulary nazi> his point is moot. <vocabulary nazi>

The real point is that you reject The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Or are you saying you want God to force you to believe Him because you refuse to on your own?

Who's forcing someone to believe in what?

And you've "accepted" the Gospel of Jesus Christ -- whatever that means to you.

Guess what? You still haven't received anything.

 

[1611AV]

You haven't responded to the examples you requested. So, I'll repost here:

Sorry, I didn't see these before. I cant do anything without using scripture but how about this, I will post scripture and let you interpret it. I will try and give my opinion as well.

Christians who believe in evolution is fine versus those who don't.

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Christians who think abortion is fine versus those who don't.

Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no MURDER, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Christians who believe contraception is bad versus those who don't.

Psalms 127:3 Lo, children [are] an heritage of the LORD: [and] the fruit of the womb [is his] reward.

Christians who think they should corporally hurt themselves versus those who don't.

Mark 5:5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. (Unclean spirit)

Christians who think that Noah's flood was global versus those who don't.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

Christians who think that Mary of Magdalene was a prostitute versus those who don't.

Does the Bible say she was?

Christians who think the OT laws should still be followed versus those who don't.

All Christians believe we should still follow the 10 Commandments, except of course the sabbath. Some people think they need to keep them all to be Saved

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Now, let me warn you that I am not looking for verses that show me how one of those sides is correct and the other one isn't. I don't care about your interpretation or your verses that justify it. I want to know HOW it is that you can tell which interpretation is correct. How do you know that YOUR interpretations are inspired versus those who disagree with you.

OK, if you are willing to accept this answer. The Holy Bible translates itself. Faith is simply believing what God said. I simply believe what God said.

Here is a question for you. Most people even non Christians know the answer to this, if you dont, you can google it. The question is, Who slayed Goliath?

 

[1611AV]

Well, perhaps the problem is that you offered yourself as a source of such understanding -- and we all know what happens when the blind lead the sighted.



Got it. Read it. Still unimpressed.

I know you're trying to save face here, but is it that hard to realize you've got nothing?

The only thing I want to be Saved here is you.

 

[Nathan Poe]

OK, if you are willing to accept this answer. The Holy Bible translates itself.

Funny -- every other foreign book relies on people to translate it.

 

[Nathan Poe]

The only thing I want to be Saved here is you.

Saved from what?

 

[1611AV]

Saved from what?

Spiritual Death and Hell.

 

[1611AV]

Funny -- every other foreign book relies on people to translate it.

The Bible is no ordinary book, is it?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Spiritual Death and Hell.

Hell? Now why would I worry about that?

As for spiritual death, well -- I fully expect that when I die, my "spirit" will go back to wherever it came from -- why would I need to be saved from that?

As Mark Twain once said, "I was dead for millions of years before I was born, and it didn't inconvenience me one bit."

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Bible is no ordinary book, is it?

It's the most popular and bestselling book in human history.

(bear in mind, though, Quotations of Chairman Mao is in second place).

But insofar as it is not magically able to translate itself, it is, I am sorry to tell you, quite ordinary.

Now, if it were the Necronomicon...

Now That's a special book!

 

[sandwiches]

OK, if you are willing to accept this answer. The Holy Bible translates itself. Faith is simply believing what God said. I simply believe what God said.

You didn't answer my question, though.

I want to know HOW it is that you can tell which interpretation is correct. How do you know that YOUR interpretations are inspired versus those who disagree with you.

Here is a question for you. Most people even non Christians know the answer to this, if you dont, you can google it. The question is, Who slayed Goliath?

Elhanan.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Bible is no ordinary book, is it?

Indeed not.

Gail Riplinger points out that It has Its own built-in dictionary; and my pastor points out that It has Its own "book-within-a-book"; the book of Isaiah, containing 66 chapters.

 

[Nathan Poe]

You didn't answer my question, though.

I want to know HOW it is that you can tell which interpretation is correct. How do you know that YOUR interpretations are inspired versus those who disagree with you.


Elhanan.

Depends on the translation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Here is a question for you. Most people even non Christians know the answer to this, if you dont, you can google it. The question is, Who slayed Goliath?

Elhanan.

Nope -- David slew Goliath, but with Goliath's own sword, not a stone.

And Elhanan slew Goliath's brother.

2 Samuel 21:19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Indeed not.

Gail Riplinger points out that It has Its own built-in dictionary;

So do many works of fiction -- Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four and Burgess' A Clockwork Orange come to mind.

and my pastor points out that It has Its own "book-within-a-book"; the book of Isaiah, containing 66 chapters.

Again, Nineteen Eighty-Four pulled a similar stunt, containing The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism within its pages.

The Necronomicon, aside from being a key player in the Evil Dead movie series, is a fictional book made up for H.P. Lovecraft's horror stories.

The Encyclopedia Galactica was invented by Isaac Asimov for his series, and later borrowed by Douglas Adams for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- yet another book-within-a-book.

Also, Shakespeare was well-known for putting plays within plays: Hamlet, A Midsummer Night's Dream, and The Taming of the Shrew are just the first three that come to mind.

the list goes on...

Truth be told, AV, (before you tell it to take a hike) the Bible itself (I notice you still capitalize the pronouns) is a compilation of 66 separate books -- that one of those books has 66 chapters is an mildly interesting coincidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

Truth be told, AV, (before you tell it to take a hike) the Bible itself (I notice you still capitalize the pronouns) is a compilation of 66 separate books -- that one of those books has 66 chapters is an mildly interesting coincidence.

Let's see your 1984 do this: 68

 

[sandwiches]

Let's see your 1984 do this: 68

Let's see your book make you go insane like reading the Necronomicon can. I didn't think so.

 

[Nostromo]

Let's see your 1984 do this: 68

Yeah, except the Bible doesn't really do that either.