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Movies hold truth, and that's exactly what The Matrix tried to tell you.
Only sometimes. All too often, movies are simply propaganda or the result of the same conditioned thinking.

TRUTH is simply where you find it. As it is ... often not pretty at all.

We live a lie.

Perhaps many do. Some don't.
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.


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I will wrap this up with one final statement: Even without all of this knowledge on the reality of things, you either live for God or you don't. God would never let anything happen on this earth that would physically or mentally disable us from serving Him. The Spirit of this message is warning, exhortation and Truth. I am sorry you do not agree with those things.

Truth is not all sunshine and butterflies. The Truth is quick and sharper than any two-edged sword.

Also, I discourage ALL hate whatsoever, towards people who tell the truth, and even the ones who lie.

We are not called to hate, nor to judge, but to discern between the things that really matter.

If anyone needs our prayers, it is the men and women who are doing these things. You must remember, they are people just like you. Man is selfish, some more than others. And man can become a slave to his own inner desires. The Bible does not ellude to men being as sheep for nothing; we are sometimes blind, clueless, and deaf. These men and women are no different, they are only pawns to the forces of evil, and some do not know that they are leading not only themselves, but millions of other people to destruction. Pray for the victims, as well as the offender.

God is love, not hate. I know it is late to add this; but those of you who have read all the other posts need to be reminded of this.
 
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Lastly: Turn off the tv, read your Bibles. Love your fellow man, and esteem and love God above all. Accept CHRIST and know that although you are not perfect, you are called to try to be perfect. Think for yourself and realize; there is no battle to face, no emeny still standing: for inside each one who knows CHRIST is victory. The fight has already been won, time is only catching up. The long-suffering of God is in patient waiting for as many men to turn to Him as possible before He pours out His Wrath; why? Because He loves you, and only wants your happiness. And as harsh as it may be, if pain, death, suffering, and the true manifestation of all evil on earth is what it takes for man to realize that life on earth is but for a monet, while life without God is eternal; so be it.

For the MODs who may read (if you remove this based on off-topicness, please realize that a MOD moved it to this category to begin with.)

Open your eyes, seek God, become free.

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I would like to add that when a person digs into what the devil is up to through those links and websites, it leads deeper into the occult.

I dug around until I came across stuff that gets deeper into evil and I decided that I had learned enough to know that the devil is actively involved in the various governmental, political, and social powers that manage the people on this earth. That should not surprise anyone because humanity gave satan authority on this earth. Jesus gave us authority to overcome satan's power until He comes.

Yes, the devil is actively engaged with people in high places and they are actively engaged with the devil because he is giving them power. A turning point has come where it's more out in the open than it was in the past and people are still accepting it.

Stay close to God, understand that the devil is about to be given his prophecied 42 months (off the leash), and know that what is forming all around us (as crazy as it is) must take place as we get closer to the day of wrath.
 
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I agree, LovedofHim

I got very deep and finally enough was enough.
It goes straight down to the occult, right to satan himself.

It's only going to get worse; no doubt about that.
The question is, are you on God's side or not? The devil cannot do a thing unless God allows him, and everything that is happening is leading straight to God's plan; tribulation
 
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I agree, LovedofHim

I got very deep and finally enough was enough.
It goes straight down to the occult, right to satan himself.

It's only going to get worse; no doubt about that.
The question is, are you on God's side or not? The devil cannot do a thing unless God allows him, and everything that is happening is leading straight to God's plan; tribulation

We all go through tribulation. It's all leading to something much worse: the wrath of God when God casts satan to the earth, allows him to rule over humanity, uses him to destroy mystery babylon and force people to make a final choice for eternity while warning people to repent before final destruction (the culmination and end of God's wrath) comes.

Praise God that His Spirit-filled children are not appointed to suffer under that wrath because of the blood of the Lamb!:prayer::bow:
 
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We all go through tribulation. It's all leading to something much worse: the wrath of God when God casts satan to the earth, allows him to rule over humanity, uses him to destroy mystery babylon and force people to make a final choice for eternity while warning people to repent before final destruction (the culmination and end of God's wrath) comes.

Praise God that His Spirit-filled children are not appointed to suffer under that wrath because of the blood of the Lamb!:prayer::bow:

AMEN!! CHRIST has saved us from the Wrath! I agree with both of the emoticons at the end of your post

:prayer::bow: with one added:^_^
 
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Praise God that His Spirit-filled children are not appointed to suffer under that wrath because of the blood of the Lamb!:prayer::bow:

Personally, I'd recommend not being overly focused on avoiding wrath.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Daniel 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
 
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By all means we deserve Wrath. We deserve to be punished and each one deservs to be removed from God forever; but God is not like that. God is graceful, forgiving, merciful, long-suffering. But you must have the mind set, that no matter what, nothing will take your focus and affection from God.
 
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I will wrap this up with one final statement: Even without all of this knowledge on the reality of things, you either live for God or you don't.

Correct, but I don't think living for God is accomplished by making an appearance on an American message board full of Jesus followers and spouting off about what their government is secretly up to.

Truly living for God, living the way of Jesus, is liberating the oppressed, feeding those that are hungry, giving hope to the poor, caring for the orphan and the widow. Those are the things that work towards bringing God's Kingdom to Earth as it is in Heaven, working towards the New Creation that began with Christs resurrection and will culminate in His return.

We are not called to hate, nor to judge, but to discern between the things that really matter.

I agree with that sentiment, but I think we differ greatly on what matters.

If anyone needs our prayers, it is the men and women who are doing these things.

That's a good approach to take. I pray for our leaders every day whether I align with them politically, philosophically, religiously or not.

God is love, not hate.

Indeed it is, and His ultimate goal for creation is restoration and redemption, not abandonment and destruction.

Lastly: Turn off the tv, read your Bibles. Love your fellow man, and esteem and love God above all.

I'm not going to turn off my TV. You see as evil as some insist that it is, television is actually one of the greatest potential ministry tools. I myself, am a filmmaker. God has a calling over my life to use my gifts with cinema to show Jesus' love.

Accept CHRIST and know that although you are not perfect, you are called to try to be perfect.

Actually we were made perfect the moment we accepted Christs gift of salvation a la Romans 10:9.
 
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David,
You've walked a long road from death to life in Christ. Isn't God love and grace awesome?

I can see also by what you've presented here about what is happening in the world you've been seeing evil like no reasonable person would ever dream it be possible to exist. I know I didn't before the Lord sent me down that path. Believe me I know the horrible reality of looking into the belly of the beast so to speak as it will overtake you if you do not keep your focous on Christ. It is the fact that we've read the end of the Book and we win is what keeps me pressing on each day. Eventhough this sorry looser will not admit to his firey fate and continues to work to drag whatever human souls down with him that he can grab hold of.

Look into the the Dreams and Visions forum here and you will find many people agreeing with what you have discovered. Christsfreeservant is constantly writing of her dreams and how she sees them reflected in the news. Also there is a channel on youtube I often check for new videos entitled "Rubystabletalk" and it is not for the faint of heart or those that refuse to seek knowledge from.

I would watch out for David Icke as from what I've seen I believe him to be a questionable source. Isn't he into new age beliefs?

Keep seeking the Lord about the truth you have found and what He desires for you to do with this hard won knowledge. Many times I have been determined to walk away from people who put their fingers and their ears and refuse to listen to what the Spirit is saying about the evil people preparing the path for the ac. Often the Lord has sent me back to these "stuborn people" reminding me of His patience, instruction and long suffering He extends to me on a daily basis. Like you whether they choose to listen or refuse to accept the truth He compels me to speak it like a fire that feels shut up in the bones.
 
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Correct, but I don't think living for God is accomplished by making an appearance on an American message board full of Jesus followers and spouting off about what their government is secretly up to.
So what sort of debate should go on here, Chilled Water? Seriously. This is the forum on eschatology, Revelation, the apocalypse. Seems related to me. The moderators thought it appropriate as well when they moved the thread here.

Even seems to be a popular thread today. ;)

God works in mysterious ways, Chilled Water. Perhaps there's more value in this thread than you recognize.


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Man, I am telling you! It once was a fire shut up in bones for me, but I have realized that He works more through me when I don't talk about those things, and when I just tell people to give their lives to Him. Around two years ago this is all I would talk about, doom, doom, and more doom. Nobody listened, people marked me off as crazy, dellusional. There were some that believed, and only fueled my fire. I stopped focusing on these things and gave myself to Him. Looking back, after I quit talking about the insignificant truth and began telling people of the BIG Truth(CHRIST), I began helping more than I had in previous times. I can help my fellow Christian more by telling him/her to read their bibles and give their time to Him, to go to Him and just talk, be real, believe He is there, and know He loves you, moreso than I can by telling them satan is out to blind them and snuff them out.

And to Chilled Water: If you don't believe that God is all that matters, yes, we most certainly disagree.
I use to respond and be active on here, but people misunderstood me ENTIRELY too much; it was outragious. I was feeling a lack of fellowship on here because of all of the pride of the people who apparently, "Know everything". If you read my previous responses you would see that this was a spur of the moment thing, that this is NOT my main focus AT ALL.

Everybody deserves wrath, destruction and absolute abandonment, and God knows it. God doesn't want that for us. The free gift of Grace saves the ones who ACCEPT it, from wrath. The ones who don't, they were warned, they chose tv and money over God, they reap what they sow.

David Icke is pretty dead on about government and free thinking, now his religious views are a whole different story.

I am tired of talking about government; draw your own conclusions people.

And lastly, gracechick; this truth is sometimes overwhelming. I see it how it is. And it's not pretty, it's disturbing on every level imaginable. I'de be willing to say that when John saw the last days; our everyday is what he saw. I mean, it is literally a matrix. From houses, to cars, to walmart, to work, to movies, to music. Everything. It boggles the mind. Symbols are everywhere, references to choosing God, living for God, losing God are in almost every song out there. Songs about breaking free from the lies, about choose the truth. Artists from Coldplay, to Natasha Bedingfield, to Third Eye Blind, Three Doors down, Yellow Card, The Shins, Pink Floyd. There is so much truth out there that I am often surprised that people don't realize what they are watching, or hearing, or even singing! My only comfort, just as you, is that we have already won in CHRIST. Seeing life the way I see it has been honestly, a blessing for me; because it has become easy for me to cut all ties with the world. To not care if I ever have a house, or money. It has ignited me to absolute total devotion to God. In a way I really feel like neo, I have always known something wasn't right, that there was more to life. I took the red pill. I found the truth, and after coming to God, I no longer needed to research the truth, He showed it to me. Slowly but surely, while doing day to day activities and just hanging with friends, I began to understand and see more and more how things in this age work. There were times where I would be completely unexpecting and then BOOM, I would know, and the knowledge would leave me praying and just balling my eyes out because of what's happened, and because I could see it, while everyone else around me was blind.

I sometimes refer to the passage in matthew or one of the gospels where JESUS says that, to Him much is given, much is expected. It makes me think that I am suppose to do something with this truth, then there are times when I feel as if He only showed me the truth to set me free and put me on the path to seeking Him. All in all, I pray His will be done; so whatever His Will is, I expect it to happen.
I do want to check out the dreams and visions section, though. He has given me dreams, one I know for sure He gave me was one concerning pre-trib rapture.
 
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I relate the song Green Eyes with my relationship with God.

Honey, you are a Rock,
upon which I stand.
And I come here to talk,
I hope You understand.

Green eyes,
yeah the spotlight shines upon You
And how could, anybody deny You?

I came here with a load,
and it feels so much lighter now I've met You
And Honey you should know,
That I could never go on without You

Green eyes

Honey, you are the sea
upon which I float,
And I came here to talk,
I think You should know,

That Green eyes,
your the One that I wanted to find,
and anyone who tried to deny You,
must be out of their mind

'Cause I came here with a load,
And it feels so much lighter since I met You.
And Honey You should know,
That I could never go on without You

Green eyes
Green eyes

Oh oh oh
oh oh oh
oh oh oh

Honey, You are Rock
Upon which I stand.
 
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