Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth

[Doveaman]

Not entirely in his image, however, as has been pointed out. We're neither omniscient nor omnipotent.

What about God's free will, is that excluded too?

We would think that man being created in the image and likeness of God refers to the attributes of God that man is capable of obtaining, including free will.

Is it possible for man to obtain omniscience and omnipotence? Who knows?

"Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is." - 1 John 3:2.

I often wonder what it will be to be like God as He is. Could omniscience and omnipotence be included?

 

[MoonLancer]

What about God's free will, is that excluded too?

We would think that man being created in the image and likeness of God refers to the attributes of God that man is capable of obtaining, including free will.

Is it possible for man to obtain omniscience and omnipotence? Who knows?

"Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is." - 1 John 3:2.

I often wonder what it will be to be like God as He is. Could omniscience and omnipotence be included?

we dont know if god has free will. after all he works in mysteries ways

 

[sandwiches]

What about God's free will, is that excluded too?

We would think that man being created in the image and likeness of God refers to the attributes of God that man is capable of obtaining, including free will.

Why would we think that?

Is it possible for man to obtain omniscience and omnipotence? Who knows?

I do. It would be possible, if done by an omnipotent deity.

 

[Doveaman]

Why would we think that?

Do you mean "why would we (as atheists) think that."?

 

[sandwiches]

Do you mean "why would we (as atheists) think that."?

Then, allow me to rephrase: Why would you think that?

 

[Doveaman]

We would think that man being created in the image and likeness of God refers to the attributes of God that man is capable of obtaining, including free will.

Why would you think that?

Because children obtain attributes of parents.

"Just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man (Adam), so shall we bear the likeness of the Man from heaven (Jesus/God)." - 1 Cor 15:49.

 

[Mobiosity]

sorry but this line popped into my head when i read this.

Sort of says it all, doesn't it.

 

[Cabal]

Sort of says it all, doesn't it.

To an extent. Bad logic is pretty irredeemable, however.

 

[rockaction]

He isn't. Maybe it is you that is illogical. God's logic is not your logic:

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. - Isa 55:8.

If deduction and induction (aka logic) are not the ways God wants us to know things, why didn't he write every fact in the Bible so we could mindlessly recite them? Logic allows us to extend our knowledge from our premises. I find it hilarious that you think this is unnecessary.

Then logically explain how God enabled a virgin to conceive and a dead man to rise.

Maybe those things didn't happen.

When Adam ate the fruit was he making a logical decision?

Hey man, don't blame me because your creation story doesn't make sense.

Is it more likely that all people are born atheists and as knowledge increase they become theists? This would mean that adult atheists are slow learners.

It's not secret that the more intelligent a person is, the more likely they are liberal or an atheist.

Liberals and atheists smarter? Intelligent people have values novel in human evolutionary history, study finds

Also, higher education levels are associated with less propensity to be religious.

Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I doubt you have completed a college education because you act so rude and naive on these boards, so maybe someday you'll be an atheist. Who knows? I miss the days when you used to try to reconcile evolution and creation, even if it was with wild theories about hominids. Now you've turned into a mini AV1611VET. What a shame.

Do you know the circumstances that led you to be a Christian?

Yes, and you don't. They were largely experiential and subjective.

You are scaring me.

It's the harsh implications of our current understanding of neuroscience. It may so happen to be that we merely have the illusion of free will. At least we have the illusion, though, right? Even the people we are attracted to have underlying physical reasons - we are often attracted to members of the opposite sex with different immune system genes, which would allow children to have broad immunity. It's stuff you wouldn't notice so it doesn't really matter in our interactions with each other.

 

[Doveaman]

Logic allows us to extend our knowledge from our premises. I find it hilarious that you think this is unnecessary.

Comprehension failed again. I never said that. This is my claim: "God's logic is not your logic."

And this is my reason: "For we walk by faith, not by sight." - 2 Cor 5:7.

I miss the days when you used to try to reconcile evolution and creation, even if it was with wild theories about hominids.

Thank you.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Comprehension failed again. I never said that. This is my claim: "God's logic is not your logic."

And this is my reason: "For we walk by faith, not by sight." - 2 Cor 5:7.
Thank you.

Nor is Thor's logic your logic.

 

[KIYX]

Nor is Thor's logic your logic.

Probably not Santa's either.

 

[Greg1234]

Probably not Santa's either.

Its a shame random mutations cannot turn bacteria into Santa.

 

[Cabal]

Another sock, consol?

What for?

 

[Mobiosity]

Its a shame random mutations cannot turn bacteria into Santa.

Oh, but it could . . . put a million monkeys in a room with a million typewriters ... wait a minute wrong scenario.

 

[Cabal]

Oh, but it could . . . put a million monkeys in a room with a million typewriters ... wait a minute wrong scenario.

It surely is, as evolution is not that random.

 

[sandwiches]

Its a shame random mutations cannot turn bacteria into Santa.

It's a shame delicious donuts don't grow on trees... =\

/non sequitur

 

[Split Rock]

Its a shame random mutations cannot turn bacteria into Santa.

It is because then you could claim that the theroy of evolution has been falsified.

 

[AV1611VET]

If God does it, is it still a mutant copy-error?

God doesn't make junk.

 

[MasonP]

God doesn't make junk.

God doesn't make anything.