Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth

[sandwiches]

Let me try it this way. They were given a choice of renouncing Jesus resurrection. They insisted that He was alive and they'd seen Him and spoken to Him. They chose to die for what they knew to be true.

Well, two reasons, 1) that path doesn't lead to salvation 2) I'm a Christian.

But we're in agreement that many others have died claiming that their religion is the truth, correct? Therefore, we must also agree that the death of adherents in the name of their faith is not a sign of any particular religion being real.

And I'm sure He does.

Yet, he doesn't use that knowledge and lets us go to hell, according to you.

I have no idea. He designed us and that is the way He chose to do it. I'll ask Him when I get there.

Then you accept this based on the Bible, I'm assuming?

comme ci comme ca

We have the same phrase in Spanish and you did not use it properly unless your point was to follow up your baseless assertion with a non sequitur.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

How so?

 

[rockaction]

Quite the non-sequitur.

I attempted to make two points with my post:

1) there have been many deities purported to have been resurrected. your posts made me think that you believe Christianity is unique in this aspect.

2) you claim that since the apostles died such horrific deaths (as claimed by tradition), they must have been on to something. who would die for a lie? well, the same thing happened to Joseph Smith. he died for his beliefs. who would die for a lie?

 

[MoonLancer]

Lots of people don't take responsibility for their actions.

So you agree religion and god fail at holding people accountable for their actions? I tend to hear the opposite argued by Christians all the time.

 

[Mobiosity]

Yet, he doesn't use that knowledge and lets us go to hell, according to you.

Nope. I never said anyone goes to hell.

Then you accept this based on the Bible, I'm assuming?

Yes, since He created us that would make sense.

 

[MoonLancer]

who would die for a lie?

One word. Kool-Aid. Drink it, Love it. ;]

 

[Mobiosity]

So you agree religion and god fail at holding people accountable for their actions? I tend to hear the opposite argued by Christians all the time.

I agree that religion, since it is man made, fails at holding people accountable. God does hold everyone accountable.

 

[MoonLancer]

I agree that religion, since it is man made, fails at holding people accountable. God does hold everyone accountable.

How. you just need to believe in him and accept Jesus. Then you get a "get out of hell" free card.

I could rape little children and have sex with their optical cavities after i kill them. When I'm old and dying I repent. And believe me i mean it. I dont want to go to hell after all.

Where exactly is the accountability?

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Ahhh but where do us humans get these qualities?

This is known as altruistic reciprocity. It is a byproduct of species evolution. It is well documented and understood at this point.

The fact is, humans are capable of profound acts of compassion, as well as unspeakable acts of violence. It is the reason we feel compassion for those in a train wreck, and the same reason we can't help but look as we drive by.

 

[AV1611VET]

One word. Kool-Aid. Drink it, Love it. ;]

Wrong drink -- try again.

Get your sarcasm straight, please.

 

[AV1611VET]

The fact is, humans are capable of profound acts of compassion, as well as unspeakable acts of violence.

Trying to speak from a purely evolutionistic and sans God viewpoint; I have to say that that is all well and good, but when society tries to legislate 'profound acts of compassion', then I believe something is wrong here.

What exactly is an 'unspeakable act of violence', when nature is full of such acts?

How many deaths occurred just outside of my front door this past week? hundreds? thousands?

Two glorified apes are bullied into going feral, they go inside of a cage and attack their own species -- is this an 'unspeakable act of violence'?

A comet strikes the earth and kills thousands of glorified apes, but tens of thousands of beetles; who should morn for whom?

 

[MoonLancer]

Wrong drink -- try again.

Get your sarcasm straight, please.

no, i'm pretty sure it was kool-aid

 

[AV1611VET]

no, i'm pretty sure it was kool-aid

Heard that from higher academia, did you? or was it from another source?

 

[Targ]

no, i'm pretty sure it was kool-aid

AV1611VET is actually correct. The people of Jonestown (from where the Kool-Aid saying comes from) actually drank Flavor-Aid, rather than Kool-Aid as has been wrongly claimed.

 

[sandwiches]

Trying to speak from a purely evolutionistic and sans God viewpoint; I have to say that that is all well and good, but when society tries to legislate 'profound acts of compassion', then I believe something is wrong here.

Why is that wrong?

What exactly is an 'unspeakable act of violence', when nature is full of such acts?

How many deaths occurred just outside of my front door this past week? hundreds? thousands?

Two glorified apes are bullied into going feral, they go inside of a cage and attack their own species -- is this an 'unspeakable act of violence'?

A comet strikes the earth and kills thousands of glorified apes, but tens of thousands of beetles; who should morn for whom?

Are you saying there aren't horrible acts of violence?

 

[MoonLancer]

Heard that from higher academia, did you? or was it from another source?

It doesent really matter what the brand is. So the question is who would die for a lie? Lots of people. Christians for Christianity, Muslims for Islam.

 

[AV1611VET]

It doesent really matter what the brand is.

Why then is this your 3rd post on it?

So the question is who would die for a lie?

According to psychologists, not one person in history has ever died for what he knew to be a lie.

Lots of people.

No one.

 

[MoonLancer]

Why then is this your 3rd post on it?

According to psychologists, not one person in history has ever died for what he knew to be a lie.

No one.

evidence?

And stop playing word games. People die for a lies all the time. Sometimes to make others believe in that lie. It happens all the time in war. And other times it is simply that they are deceived and dont know its a lie.

 

[DDdreamer]

Do scientists have evidence for dark-matter or dark-energy? What is it?

I'll make it easier: What is the evidence for the Big-Bang?

CMBR is evidence of this Big-Bang since there would be no CMBR without it: "For we walk by faith, not by sight." - 2 Cor 5:7.

Yes, but the difference is that CMBR has been proven to exist, its observable. You have simply asserted that your sixth sense exists and that it is dependant on christianity. You still haven't provided any evidence for it.

Marcus

 

[Doveaman]

Do you ever find your sixth sense a burden and long merely to be as 'other mortals'?

Are you kidding?

If only you knew the joy of being able to see beyond your mortal nose.

 

[Doveaman]

I didn't say that he should use his divine powers to automagically change our minds. I said that he'd know what would convince us.

The lake of fire will convince some people when they begin to feel the heat.