Some Evangelical Christians evangelizing in predominantly Christian countries

[Thekla]

oh, ok. Then if that is all it takes, you and I shall have our day as well.

God willing !

 

[Thekla]

Greetings Thekla!
Which ones?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7353336-45/#post51145537
Was Augustine Sola Scriptura?

I remember that thread, bro

His teaching wasn't really known in the east; I know that Original Sin and (if I understand/remember correctly) also whether manifestations of grace are created (denied in the east) are not accepted (and often heavily criticised).

 

[Gleb Yakunin]

Btw, how old are you GY?

edit to add: is that you in the pic?


oh no, That is a pic of the real Gleb Yakunin, just an hero of mine. He's not perfect, but he has courage.

Not as old as you...minus a couple of years or so.

 

[Secundulus]

No 'just war' doctrine is of God but by man.

If you are 50, then you did not see viet nam, and probably retired prior to the second Gulf war, right?

I retired on 1 June 2001. Four years in USMA and 20 years in the Army (Infantry).

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Btw, how old are you GY?

edit to add: is that you in the pic?


oh no, That is a pic of the real Gleb Yakunin, just an hero of mine. He's not perfect, but he has courage.

Not as old as you...minus a couple of years or so.

I still have my eye sight and hair on me head [tho when I see the barber, the grey hairs appear to be more dominate lately ]

 

[Thekla]

Is war really a part of the human condition? Did Jesus not change that? I would like to see a thread on that because I don't believe that everyone agrees that it's inevitable.

In the EO, the need to resort to war is seen as a human failure. So it is evil, but sometimes needed for the defense of the weak, etc.

As there was not war in man's natural created state (in the Garden), then it is not "normal". The instincts given by God for preservation of life, gone awry, become passions which tend on a large scale to result in wars. The true war (the only good war) is against one's own passions and sins.

(The Byzantine State rarely engaged in offensive war. To this end, they focused heavily on diplomatic efforts.

Where offensive war was used, it was typically to return land and people lost in a defensive war. There was an early offensive war against Persia, where the Christians were badly persecuted, and a later one to allay border incursions.)

 

[Livindesert]

I retired on 1 June 2001. Four years in USMA and 20 years in the Army (Infantry).

Hooah! 11 years then I get to retire out of the AF

 

[Gleb Yakunin]

I still have my eye sight and hair on me head [tho when I see the barber, the grey hairs appear to be more dominate lately ]

good one, the same for me and the beard turning as well.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

good one, the same for me and the beard turning as well.

When I entered the AF in July '68, I still had peach fuzz....in fact, the the TI made me shave it, tho it barely showed up in the mirror

 

[Secundulus]

Hooah! 11 years then I get to retire out of the AF

The last ten go much faster than the first ten. Then you get to be a contractor and work for the USAF forever. LOL

 

[bbbbbbb]

A mission Church is not the same as missionising; mission Churches are beginning parishes. A new parish location is requested; if approved, a mission parish is started. Often there is not a full-time priest there.

Are the EO from this mission parish working to de-convert the Reformed Christians in the area ?

The short answer is yes. If you look up their webpage you will see that virtually everyone in the photograph has blonde hair and blue eyes. There never have been any Orthodox Christians in Pella other than the pirest and, perhaps a handful of workers the the Pella Corporation.

 

[Gleb Yakunin]

When I entered the AF in July '68, I still had peach fuzz....in fact, the the TI made me shave it, tho it barely showed up in the mirror

I remember the days at Lackland too. 'bout peed myself when I saw a BUFF fly over head.

 

[Albion]

Where offensive war was used, it was typically to return land and people lost in a defensive war. There was an early offensive war against Persia, where the Christians were badly persecuted, and a later one to allay border incursions.)

That's pretty much the justification that was offered for why most of the wars in history were fought.

 

[bbbbbbb]

In that case, it would make sense to evangelize among those Christians who have a theology you are familiar with -- so Calvinists would evangelise other Reformed Churches.

That certainly makes some sense which makes the situation in Pella, Iowa even stranger, would you not agree?

 

[Secundulus]

I remember the days at Lackland too. 'bout peed myself when I saw a BUFF fly over head.

My father went through Lackland in 1950. I was a traitor and went through Ft. Benning instead.

 

[bbbbbbb]

except the Orthodox don't send missionaries to the protestants.

So what is the Orthodox Mission doing in Pella, Iowa, which is a Dutch Reformed (Protestant) town?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I remember the days at Lackland too. 'bout peed myself when I saw a BUFF fly over head.

My first assignment after graduating from Tech School in Wichita Falls, Tx was Anchorage, Ak......smack dab in the winter of Dec '68! From 100+ degrees in S.A. Tx, to -10 within 6 months....almost went AWOL the first first month I was up there just to keep from dying of frosbite ehehe [forget trying to evangelize the Eskimos ]

 

[bbbbbbb]

I am well aware of this, b7. I am grateful for the freedom I have in this country and for the "goodness" for the most part. But when one peels away the layers, the U.S. is just another country as other countries in this world (UK, Australia, France, etc.) that have their good and bad sides. No country is perfect. This is the point I think needs to be made because growing up in the country (especially being a military brat and married to military the past 12, almost 13 years) we are taught that the U.S. is the best country on the planet.

That was drilled into my little brain in school. During my middle life I abandoned that notion and believed that the U.S. was really not better or worse than most countries. If was later when I actually met and interacted with a wide range of international people, some of whom had legally emigrated here, some who had not, and some who are still living in their own countries, that I came to realize that the U.S., like it or not, is the envy of the world. What other country has flooded Haiti with relief aid following the hurricane even close to what the U.S. has done - and that in the midst of a major recession? For all his talk, Hugo Chavez should be ashamed of himself and of his political administration. In the U.S. he would be ousted in the next election for his callousness to Haiti.

 

[Gleb Yakunin]

My father went through Lackland in 1950. I was a traitor and went through Ft. Benning instead.

cool, the story is familiar with me as well. My son is Army.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

cool, the story is familiar with me as well. My son is Army.

ACCKKK! That wasn't me that said that

http://www.christianforums.com/t7433483/#post54004651

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

My father went through Lackland in 1950. I was a traitor and went through Ft. Benning instead.

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