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Boy! I Never had nude models when I was 14

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I would be fine with it.

I think it's most likely unhealthy for children to grow up with subtle references all around them about how the human body is somehow shameful and secret and to be hidden. Tribe people and people who lived in certain older times have less of a fear of nudity.

I'm all for modesty and covering up, but not to act as though it were some huge secret about what we all look like.

If children experience the human body as something natural when younger, they would hopefully learn to respect it more later. I don't see any issue with a naked body in artwork.

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Came across this interesting little offering from the University of the Arts in Philadelphia.

2008 - 2009 Pre-College Saturday School
The Pre-College Saturday School at The University of the Arts has been providing quality arts education to Philadelphia area students for more than 100 years.

About the Pre-College Saturday School: The Pre-College Saturday School at The University of the Arts offers college-level courses designed specifically for high school students in grades 9 through 12. Courses are offered in fine arts, crafts, design, media, writing, and communication.

Nude Models
Many of the Pre-College Saturday School courses use nude models to help students build a strong foundation of observational skills. Students should anticipate the use of nude models in the following courses: Drawing I, Drawing II, Painting I, Painting II, Portfolio Preparation, Figure Drawing, Figure Sculpture, and Watercolor Painting. Students are expected to behave with maturity and professionalism in the presence of a model.

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So, what do you think: would you allow your 14 yo daughter to gaze at a naked man, or let your son carefully look over a naked woman?

Appropriate offering for kids this age or not?

if you've ever taken a class that utilized nude models, you would realize that it is not a sexual situation. In general it's people you would rather not see naked.

And yes, I would be completely comfortable with any child of any age being in such an art class.
 
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[serious];52238985 said:
if you've ever taken a class that utilized nude models, you would realize that it is not a sexual situation. In general it's people you would rather not see naked.
I took a few in college, and while the men didn't attract me, one of the women was quite attractive in a cute way.
 
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Folks, I was a fine art student. I'm no prude; however, I would totally question a naive opinion that Life Drawing class is a respectful environment, as I would question the use of human cadavers in an 8th grade biology class for dissection.

The vast majority of such students will never be doctors or nurses and human body parts would end up in someone's locker or desk.

I heard the jokes regarding a model's ski slope breasts or a hairy ape man's poker. This was in a college setting. Sorry, but I feel that there are far better ways to introduce young boys & girls to drawing...

We had a human skeleton in my highschool art class. As far as human cadavers for dissection, if it were not cost prohibitive I'd be fine with it. Heck, I'd donate my body when I died.
 
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So, what do you think: would you allow your 14 yo daughter to gaze at a naked man, or let your son carefully look over a naked woman?
Am I really expected to suppose they hadn´t done that already? :doh:

Appropriate offering for kids this age or not?
Why sure.
I don´t know what´s up with this fuzz about nudity anyway. Here, families visit nude beaches and public saunas.
 
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[serious];52238993 said:
We had a human skeleton in my highschool art class. As far as human cadavers for dissection, if it were not cost prohibitive I'd be fine with it. Heck, I'd donate my body when I died.


Oh, you must be a real cut-up! :D
 
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[serious];52238985 said:
if you've ever taken a class that utilized nude models, you would realize that it is not a sexual situation. In general it's people you would rather not see naked.

And yes, I would be completely comfortable with any child of any age being in such an art class.

Well, I'd would say that my instructors had a good eye concerning art, but I would not say that not a few had a roving eye when it came to intimacy... Not the sort I'd want encouraging my child to appreciate the human body.
 
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Folks, I was a fine art student. I'm no prude; however, I would totally question a naive opinion that Life Drawing class is a respectful environment, as I would question the use of human cadavers in an 8th grade biology class for dissection.

The vast majority of such students will never be doctors or nurses and human body parts would end up in someone's locker or desk.

I heard the jokes regarding a model's ski slope breasts or a hairy ape man's poker. This was in a college setting. Sorry, but I feel that there are far better ways to introduce young boys & girls to drawing...

Are you not someone who thinks sex should only happen with the intent of procreation? Sorry LN, but I think you are the very definition of a prude.

Wikipedia said:
A prude (Old French prude)[1] is a person who is described as being concerned with decorum or propriety. They may be perceived as being uncomfortable with sexuality, nudity, alcohol, drug use or mischief.
 
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It's artistic models. I use them too. Certainly makes it a lot easier for costume designs.

The only reason nudity is so taboo is because people decided it was "evil". The human body is God's most beautiful creation. Instead of scaring kids away from it, we should show it to them and teach them it's something beautiful and to be respected. Not something that should be hidden away and shameful.
 
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Are you not someone who thinks sex should only happen with the intent of procreation? Sorry LN, but I think you are the very definition of a prude.

I feel that between two married people, sex can happen at anytime ------ with the understanding that a baby may happen.

Others believe in abortion, the pill, or insist that they can marry "gay." My guess is "prude" is better.
 
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I feel that between two married people, sex can happen at anytime ------ with the understanding that a baby may happen.

Others believe in abortion, the pill, or insist that they can marry "gay." My guess is "prude" is better.

You know, I agree with you...except for, like, mine would go something like this:

I believe that between two or more consenting people, sex can happen at anytime; with the understanding that a baby or babies may result.

Others believe in monogamy, chastity, and Victorian morality. My guess is that my way is better.
 
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I feel that between two married people, sex can happen at anytime ------ with the understanding that a baby may happen.

Others believe in abortion, the pill, or insist that they can marry "gay." My guess is "prude" is better.
And sterile people and post-menopausal women shouldn't have sex either, right?
 
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I feel that between two married people, sex can happen at anytime ------ with the understanding that a baby may happen.

Others believe in abortion, the pill, or insist that they can marry "gay." My guess is "prude" is better.

And my guess is that there is no "Better" or "Worse", there is only different strokes for different individuals.
 
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I feel that between two married people, sex can happen at anytime ------ with the understanding that a baby may happen.

Others believe in abortion, the pill, or insist that they can marry "gay." My guess is "prude" is better.
You are welcome to live up to it.
 
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As someone who's never really had a problem with nudity(myself or others) I'd be ok with this. More importantly, for these sort of classes I'd like the students to learn the history of the naked form as a model for artistic pieces, and how different artistic periods treated such things and why they made sculptures, paintings,etc. So they could properly appreciate the subject matter.

I tend to think of the response to be to the admiration or immaturity of the person have the reaction. And not a reflection of the decency of the material.
 
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I don't know if this has been covered because I haven't read through the thread yet but for those who support this or approve of it, would you allow your 14 year old to be the model? If not why the change?

Yes, though for a group who hasn't had a live model before a more experienced model should be used.
 
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I don't know if this has been covered because I haven't read through the thread yet but for those who support this or approve of it, would you allow your 14 year old to be the model? If not why the change?
Issues of consent.

I would allow my 14 year old to see an adult model... however I would be reticent to let my 14 year old model, mostly because I would worry she might regret it later. However, IF it were something she REALLY wanted to do, and perhaps if I were welcome to chaperone... then yes, I would be happy to let either of my daughters model nude at 14.
 
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