If homosexuality is proven to be biological . . .

[Merlin]

So as long as it is about i man marrying anyone he likes than he can marry another 1 man.

biblical reference?

 

[Merlin]

of course if we just used the bible for our facts the world would be flat and the Sun would orbit Earth

the bible doesn't say that

 

[sk8Joyful]

Are you gay, Sk8joyful? No? Then how could you possibly know if it's a choice, or not?

Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.

Everything we do, is a choice, including therefore sexual choices.

There is no psychological, psychiatric, or medical association that supports conversion therapy.
In fact, they all state that it is HARMFUL to attempt to change a person's sexuality.
The majority of people who undergo 'therapy' DO NOT become straight.

so when any traditional-therapies fail miserably, as you said; the helpful thing to do is quit??

How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in
this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.
.

 

[roflcopter101]

Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.

Have you ever heard of Taret's syndrome?
It's when a person unconsciously blurts out what he/she does not intend to say.
Does that person choose to say those things? No.

 

[cantata]

Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.

Dream?

Seriously, though - every single thing you do, there's no "choice" in the matter. You crazy machine, you.

 

[cantata]

Have you ever heard of Taret's syndrome?
It's when a person unconsciously blurts out what he/she does not intend to say.

You mean Tourette's, right?

People with Tourette's have one or more vocal tics, and may have other motor tics as well. These tics are, however, as you correctly point out, generally completely involuntary.

 

[sk8Joyful]

Dream?

Yes,
when you day-dream, you may do so consciously.
when you dream in your sleep, you do so unconsciously. Either way, it's a choice.

 

[Garyzenuf]

Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.

Breathing...

Everything we do, is a choice, including therefore sexual choices.

Can you even see right from where you're standing?

How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in
this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.

Because theres no "therapies" that do this?

*

 

[OphidiaPhile]

biblical reference?

It has nothing to do with the bible.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

the bible doesn't say that

Sure it does, the four corners of the Earth, people were put to death for saying the Earth was round. It also says the earth is the center of the Universe.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.

Everything we do, is a choice, including therefore sexual choices.

How about blinking, yawning, sneezing, coughing, urinating, Love, defecating enough or do you need more?

so when any traditional-therapies fail miserably, as you said; the helpful thing to do is quit??

How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in
this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.

There is no need to change something that is perfectly normal. If it were not normal and were a choice there would not be more than 1000 species that have had homosexual behavior exhibited within them.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Yes,
when you day-dream, you may do so consciously.
when you dream in your sleep, you do so unconsciously. Either way, it's a choice.

Dreaming is not a choice.

 

[sk8Joyful]

Originally Posted by sk8Joyful
Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.

response: Breathing...
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Breathing is a function, GOD created in you, giving you
both unconscious & conscious control over, yes.



Originally Posted by sk8Joyful
Everything we do, is a choice, including therefore sexual choices.

response: Can you even see right from where you're standing?
---------------------------------------------------------
Can you both perceive & see right from where you're standing?



Originally Posted by sk8Joyful
How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in

this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.
​

response: Because theres no "therapies" that do this?
-------------------------------------------------
so when any "traditional"-therapies fail, as you said; the helpful thing to do is quit??

How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in
this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Originally Posted by sk8Joyful
Name one thing you do (both unconscious & conscious) that is not your personal choice.
Breathing...
-------------
Breathing is a function, GOD created in you, giving you
both unconscious & conscious control over, yes.

That is a ridiculous statement, breathing is involuntary. No omnipotent being needed.

Originally Posted by sk8Joyful
Everything we do, is a choice, including therefore sexual choices.

Can you even see right from where you're standing?
---------------------------------------------------------
Can you both perceive & see right from where you're standing?

I really hard a hard time fathoming that people like you exist.

Originally Posted by sk8Joyful
How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in

this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.
​

Because theres no "therapies" that do this?
-------------------------------------------------
so when any "traditional"-therapies fail, as you said; the helpful thing to do is quit??

How much better, to apply therapies that do succeed... in
this case: helping 'homosexuals' change their mind, & heal.

There are no therapies that are acceptable for something that is perfectly normal, the only therapy needed is for those that continually tell others that there is something wrong with and demonize them because of sexual orientation.

 

[sk8Joyful]

Dreaming is not a choice.

shows what little you currently know -but there's hope , you can yet learn

 

[OphidiaPhile]

shows what little you currently know -but there's hope , you can yet learn

Almost all species dream, it is a product of the subconscious and is NOT a choice. But I am sure that you know more than those that research the brain.

 

[sk8Joyful]

There are no therapies,

that are acceptable

that 'GOD-created healing... therapies' exist,
which you, & others as rebellious atheists, don't accept, is your problem.

for something, that is perfectly normal

GOD said "don't do it! (homo-sexuality)"; what part of "don't do it!" - do you fail to understand?

 

[mylittlelambs]

I think that they will just deny it. I can say that homosexuality in my eyes is not a choice but rather a gene you are born with. I take offense to being compared to a pedophile, or someone that is into inappropriate behavior with animals that is just stupid who ever said that cant remember now.

This is one subject that ran me from the church, having to become celibant (sp) to be loved by the Lord. That is a load. I have not seen anywhere where Jesus himself commented on homosexuality and please do not say he spoke of sexual perversions because what we have is not perverted in any way.

I think that some here are right and Gay marriage should be legal and we should have the same rights as everyone else. marriage is no longer sacred divorce rates are huge, people cheat very often and straight people have messed it up so bad gay people should be able to show them how a real marriage is done.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

that 'GOD-created healing... therapies' exist,
which you, & others as rebellious atheists, don't accept, is your problem.

That you should be ashamed for putting your god concept above the mental health of loving and caring human beings.

GOD said "don't do it! (homo-sexuality)"; what part of "don't do it!" - do you fail to understand?

[/quote]
God has said nothing, man did. Which part of the American Psychiatric Association has deemed homosexuality to be normal do you not understand, I hope you are prosecuted for harming others.

 

[mylittlelambs]

Ah but did Jesus ever say it? We are suppose to live by the words of Jesus right? He never let that word come from his mouth. That I have seen.