Pope: Saving world from homosexuality like saving rainforests

[angellica]

"Well, I for one do not like Christians strutting around flaunting their superstitions and delusions. It's one thing to hold onto ridiculous beliefs, and quite another to be public and proud of being so dim."

In the interests of informed debate, members will not speak in a disrespectful way of The Christian God, The Trinity, or The Holy Scriptures (The Bible) . A similar respect is expected towards the faith and sacred texts of other religions.
Expressing disbelief in God is acceptable, referring to Him as a 'fairy tale' or 'mythical being' is not.

 

[Nihilismus]

Not very nice when your own fallacy is used against you, is it?

 

[SiderealExalt]

Side note then. In that case maybe some of the antiMuslim threads should be deleted in the Non-Christian religion section.

 

[angellica]

Side note then. In that case maybe some of the antiMuslim threads should be deleted in the Non-Christian religion section.

I got that from this forums guidelines. I didn't make it up, in case you thought I did .

 

[SiderealExalt]

I got that from this forums guidelines. I didn't make it up, in case you thought I did .

Guilty conscience about something? But anywho. A. I know you didn't make it up. And B. That has absolutely nothing to do with what I just posted.

 

[KCKID]

In the interests of informed debate, members will not speak in a disrespectful way of The Christian God, The Trinity, or The Holy Scriptures (The Bible) . A similar respect is expected towards the faith and sacred texts of other religions.
Expressing disbelief in God is acceptable, referring to Him as a 'fairy tale' or 'mythical being' is not.

The FACT is, however, that YOU have never seen God. You've only HEARD and READ about God from a book and have made a REAL being based SOLELY on what you've heard and read. While I realize that humans must have SOMETHING to cling to (probably even atheists) you simply cannot prove that the God of the Bible is actually anything MORE than a mythical being. Now can you?

So, until you CAN prove it you also have to accept the fact that others might reason out in their minds that 'someone' who is no more than a 'word' in a 'book' is therefore open to such terminology. What I feel is more a concern to you is that your own belief in God/the Bible is perhaps not on as solid a foundation as it might be. I would say the same thing to many Christians. This is why they become so defensive whenever anyone might question their 'faith'.

 

[angellica]

Guilty conscience about something? But anywho. A. I know you didn't make it up. And B. That has absolutely nothing to do with what I just posted.

What in the world would I have a guilty conscience about . I have no idea what you mean by that.
A. I did not know if you did or not, so I was just telling you.
B. I could not infer the tone of your post, so I couldn't tell how you meant it, but at any rate, I was just trying to clear things up.

 

[angellica]

The FACT is, however, that YOU have never seen God. You've only HEARD and READ about God from a book and have made a REAL being based SOLELY on what you've heard and read. While I realize that humans must have SOMETHING to cling to (probably even atheists) you simply cannot prove that the God of the Bible is actually anything MORE than a mythical being. Now can you?

So, until you CAN prove it you also have to accept the fact that others might reason out in their minds that 'someone' who is no more than a 'word' in a 'book' is therefore open to such terminology. What I feel is more a concern to you is that your own belief in God/the Bible is perhaps not on as solid a foundation as it might be. I would say the same thing to many Christians. This is why they become so defensive whenever anyone might question their 'faith'.

They can disagree all they want, but the forum rules must be followed in these forums.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

They can disagree all they want, but the forum rules must be followed in these forums.

Until someone like the ACLU steps in and changes that.

 

[SiderealExalt]

They can disagree all they want, but the forum rules must be followed in these forums

There are also rules against flaming other religions, which Christians on this forum violate on a regular basis. As well as personal flaming.

 

[roflcopter101]

Well, we need some of those posts to put on FSTDT.

 

[WhatThe]

Well, we need some of those posts to put on FSTDT.

Oh there are already many many many, don't you worry.

 

[gwenmead]

There are also rules against flaming other religions, which Christians on this forum violate on a regular basis. As well as personal flaming.

Ah, but if you use the Bible to abuse, insult, or flame someone, that makes it okay. Back it up with Scripture and you can get away with anything.

It's just possible I'm being sarcastic.

 

[MaxP]

Until someone like the ACLU steps in and changes that.

As soon as you start restricting the internet, you go on a slippery slope toward eliminating the last(and first?) completely free forum for opinions in the world.
Best if we don't advocate the ACLU telling people what to do on the internet.

 

[SiderealExalt]

Ah, but if you use the Bible to abuse, insult, or flame someone, that makes it okay. Back it up with Scripture and you can get away with anything.

It's just possible I'm being sarcastic.

Sigh..I'd like to be able to say no you're wrong about that but I can't.

 

[Envy2]

This sickens me, and it's exactly why I turned to atheism for a while, because I can not stand all of the judging that goes on within Christianity... But I came back as a Progressive Christian who supports all LGBT rights. Because there is a verse somewhere that says "Love thy neighbor" and also ones that say you should not judge, I'm sure.

 

[Nihilismus]

This sickens me, and it's exactly why I turned to atheism for a while, because I can not stand all of the judging that goes on within Christianity... But I came back as a Progressive Christian who supports all LGBT rights. Because there is a verse somewhere that says "Love thy neighbor" and also ones that say you should not judge, I'm sure.

You can adhere to that and still be an atheist.

 

[Envy2]

What do you mean... Be an atheist and still not support LGBT rights? Yeah I know that... But perhaps I should have said it better, back when I turned to atheism I really thought that Christianity was as condemning of LGBT people as the fundamentalists make it out to be, but I realized that simply isn't true.

And also it really upset me because... well... I am a part of the LGBT. *becomes instantaneously hated by most of the people on here.* just kidding... I hope...

 

[SiderealExalt]

Actually I think he meant, you can be an atheist and "love thy neighbor."

 

[Nihilismus]

I meant you don't have to be a Christian to respect your fellow man...