Pope: Saving world from homosexuality like saving rainforests

[angellica]

No, you're not making love to the object. The object doesn't "work" itself; the people are still preforming the act that is the source of pleasure. Heterosexual couples use such peripherals quite often as well despite having "something."

The objects allow for new ways to express oneself to a partner for people of all sexual orientations.

Right, because they can't do it naturally.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

So it's not really them, they have to use fake body parts. Tongue techniques have no basis in the missionary style anyway, which was my point of how not everyone can benefit from learning other people's techniques. TMI!!

Why in the world would you talk to them at length about tongue techniques anyway?

There is nothing wrong with things that enhance the experience and no you are still making love to the person. And yes everyone can learn techniques that benefit them.

 

[angellica]

Obviously, it's not an arugment. I'm noting reality. If you're a YEC, you're ignorant.

YEC?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Right, because they can't do it naturally.

There is no unnatural when it comes to sex, you need to understand that.

 

[Braunwyn]

YEC?

Young earth creationist.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

YEC?

Young Earth Creationist

 

[Aianna]

Right, because they can't do it naturally.

It applies to things heterosexuals can't do naturally as well. Thankfully for everyone, what's "natural" and what's "right" have no connection.

To assert that they do would be a naturalistic fallacy.

 

[angellica]

There is no unnatural when it comes to sex, you need to understand that.

Is it natural for a grown man to have sex with a baby? Is it natural for a man to have sex with an animal? Is it natural for people to put a bong in their booty and smoke out of it (bong water butt babes porno)? Some things just aren't natural.

 

[KCKID]

So you agree that same sex "sex" is wrong?

Not aimed at me but why - precisely - is same-sex sex wrong? I'm sorry, but I just can't see the logic behind the perceived 'wrongness' of consensual same-gender sex. I'm not meaning to be confronting (well, maybe a tad ) but can you give me a logical answer? Maybe it doesn't turn you on but why is same-sex sex 'wrong' as such for those who ARE turned on by it? What IS this terrible 'sin' that they've committed?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

I'd rather go on with "regular" sex than learn from what homos do. I have no interest in doing those things with a man.

And what "things" would those be? Sex is a wonderful thing why would anyone shortchange it by putting their fingers in their ears and yelling lalalala when ever the subject comes up. I find it really disturbing how puritanical the people in this country often are, I really wish we were more open about it and we would have much less stress and be a whole lot happier as a society.

 

[b&wpac4]

Is it natural for a grown man to have sex with a baby? Is it natural for a man to have sex with an animal? Is it natural for people to put a bong in their booty and smoke out of it (bong water butt babes porno)? Some things just aren't natural.

Like...
Living indoors, having electricity flow in your house, computers, eating processed foods, having food preservatives....

Shall I go on?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Is it natural for a grown man to have sex with a baby? Is it natural for a man to have sex with an animal? Is it natural for people to put a bong in their booty and smoke out of it (bong water butt babes porno)? Some things just aren't natural.

Between two consenting people which was already an understood criterion there is no wrong in sex and the bong is perfectly acceptable if it is what that person wants and enjoys.

 

[Braunwyn]

Like...
Living indoors, having electricity flow in your house, computers, eating processed foods, having food preservatives....

Shall I go on?

Indeed...how about arguing with people on the internet lol. Totally el natural.

 

[angellica]

Not aimed at me but why - precisely - is same-sex sex wrong? I'm sorry, but I just can't see the logic behind the perceived 'wrongness' of consensual same-gender sex. I'm not meaning to be confronting (well, maybe a tad ) but can you give me a logical answer? Maybe it doesn't turn you on but why is same-sex sex 'wrong' as such for those who ARE turned on by it? What IS this terrible 'sin' that they've committed?

Well, my reasoning is based on my faith, so I don't know whether you would understand it - not that you wouldn't understand it because you are intellectually inferior, but because you do not share my faith. But I believe it is wrong based on what the Bible says, as well as scientific factors (like the fact that no type of homosexual sex can pro-create, anatomically they don't match up like a man and woman do, etc.). So that's why I believe it is wrong.

 

[angellica]

And what "things" would those be? Sex is a wonderful thing why would anyone shortchange it by putting their fingers in their ears and yelling lalalala when ever the subject comes up. I find it really disturbing how puritanical the people in this country often are, I really wish we were more open about it and we would have much less stress and be a whole lot happier as a society.

I don't feel comfortable talking about stuff like that, especially in mixed company. It isn't as bad online because I am not actually with the people, but it's still embarrassing.

 

[b&wpac4]

Well, my reasoning is based on my faith, so I don't know whether you would understand it - not that you wouldn't understand it because you are intellectually inferior, but because you do not share my faith. But I believe it is wrong based on what the Bible says, as well as scientific factors (like the fact that no type of homosexual sex can pro-create, anatomically they don't match up like a man and woman do, etc.). So that's why I believe it is wrong.

I'll ask this, because I always like asking it: Upon who's authority do you interpret scripture or your faith?

 

[angellica]

Like...
Living indoors, having electricity flow in your house, computers, eating processed foods, having food preservatives....

Shall I go on?

All of those things did not exist at all back then, but homosexual sex did. There's the difference.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Well, my reasoning is based on my faith, so I don't know whether you would understand it - not that you wouldn't understand it because you are intellectually inferior, but because you do not share my faith. But I believe it is wrong based on what the Bible says, as well as scientific factors (like the fact that no type of homosexual sex can pro-create, anatomically they don't match up like a man and woman do, etc.). So that's why I believe it is wrong.

Do not use science as both the scientific and psychiatric communities agree that it is normal and natural.

 

[angellica]

Between two consenting people which was already an understood criterion there is no wrong in sex and the bong is perfectly acceptable if it is what that person wants and enjoys.

I asked was it natural.

So, is it okay for a 13 year old and a 30 year old?

 

[b&wpac4]

All of those things did not exist at all back then, but homosexual sex did. There's the difference.

I fail to see it. Your argument comes from what is natural. These things aren't natural.