Dinosaur footprints destroy flood geology.

[Assyrian]

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It is amazing learning about life in a bygone era.
Those hairstyles, the ties...

 

[AV1611VET]

So, you're putting the Hand of God in at illustration D?

Those that know me, know that I put the "Hand of God" at illustration A; why do you think the dinosaur is running for higher ground in the first place?

 

[MrGoodBytes]

And there is in science?

Of course - experimentally testing the hypothesis.

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

Those that know me, know that I put the "Hand of God" at illustration A; why do you think the dinosaur is running for higher ground in the first place?

The dinosaur is not running from the flood, but creationism runs from evidence, just like you.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Those that know me, know that I put the "Hand of God" at illustration A; why do you think the dinosaur is running for higher ground in the first place?

Who said he is?

 

[AV1611VET]

The dinosaur is not running from the flood, but creationism runs from evidence, just like you.

You're starting to sound like Nathan Poe now; just using my posts to take a potshot at me.

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

You're starting to sound like Nathan Poe now; just using my posts to take a potshot at me.

OK; seeing you make the statement about dinosaurs running from the flood, I shall ask you a direct question.

What sediments in the geological record are magical mystical biblical flood deposits?

I bet you do not answer the question.

 

[AV1611VET]

What sediments in the geological record are magical mystical biblical flood deposits?

Oh, look at the time! Sorry --- gotta run!

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Yes, I'll admit it, there is evidence of the biblical Flood. It just doesn't turn out to be quite as reported in Genesis. First, all the genuine evidence of a worldwide inundation a few thousand years ago could, with $2.39, get you a cup of Starbuck's. There are seashell fossils on Mt. Everest, but plate tectonics has a little something to do with that. Mysteriously, there aren't any shells on plenty of much lower mountain ranges, which happen to be igneous or metamorphic rocks, unlike the former marine sediments that became the Himalaya.
Now for more local floods: There is genuine archaeological evidence of one or more real, catastrophic floods in the valleys of the Fertile Crescent (where the myth originated). To tribes who thought Sumeria was pretty much the whole world--or all of it that mattered--it would have seemed that their whole world was indeed flooded.
Recently, another possible source of the legend has been recognized. Thousands of years ago a sort of natural dam at the Bosporus gave way, allowing seawater to rapidly pour into a huge basin and lake north of Turkey (the region near Ararat! hmm...), flooding out thousands of square miles of fertile land, villages, and cities. The result is the Black Sea, where even now marine archaeologists are finding the drowned communities on the former lake shore. Take some legends of the day their world ended, brought by Black Sea refugees, add to them a horrific flood or two from the Tigris-Euphrates region, conflate it with some exaggerated tales of the guy who saved some of his goats on a raft--and you've got the "Genesis Flood." Many myths have those ingredients: some probable but untraceable basis in fact, exaggeration, combination with other tales, adoption and adaptation by other tribes with other gods. In that sense, Noah is in the same boat as Odysseus.

 

[thaumaturgy]

Simply this:

a. A dinosaur is running towards higher ground.​

So every footprint means "running to higher ground"? You would make a great detective!

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b. He leaves footprints behind.
c. A worldwide flood inserts sediments into the track.

So if sediment winds up in a depression it is a "worldwide flood". That is concerning to me because I saw a tiretrack the other day that had been filled in with some sediment, and yet I don't recall a worldwide flood destroying the globe in the last few years.

d. God cleans up the mess.
e. Tracks are left behind, possibly as a testimony.

Why is this track special from any other track left anywhere else on the planet? What is a track a "testimony" of? That someone or something was there.

f. A reminder of what was once there, but is now gone.

Uh, yeah. So all tracks are from the Global Flood? Excellent corner you painted yourself into there. Better hope for some rapture to get you out of that one.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I take it you mean pseudo-scientific?

It begins to irk me.

Perhaps actually "judo-science". Creationists wish to take their hand and chop science a good quick whack to the neck and collapse it.

After which they can drag the unconscious body of science around and call it their "friend" as it suits them.

 

[AV1611VET]

Uh, yeah. So all tracks are from the Global Flood? Excellent corner you painted yourself into there. Better hope for some rapture to get you out of that one.

Depends on what year I was talking about, doesn't it, Sherlock? Want multiple choice, or can you figure it out yourself?

 

[thaumaturgy]

Depends on what year I was talking about, doesn't it, Sherlock? Want multiple choice, or can you figure it out yourself?

Funny! So you post a picture and unilaterally decree that this particular footprint meant "global flood, run for your life!"

Based on what, Mr. Watson? Based on what? Because it's a DINOSAUR TRACK and hence it upsets your Noachian Flood applecart? Ohnoes!

The whole point, if you must have it explained to you, is that if you come up with a fun "just-so" story out of the blue, then you must have some reason for assuming it had to do with the Global flood, as opposed to the literally billions of other ichnofossils representing all other time in the geologic record and currently.

That's the point, Mr. Watson.

Can you follow these subtleties?

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

More evidence that Jurassic sediments are NOT biblical flood deposits.

Geologist Winston Seiler with some of the dinosaur tracks he identified for his thesis as a University of Utah master's degree student. The impressions once were thought to be potholes eroded by water. But Seiler and Marjorie Chan, chair of geology and geophysics at the University of Utah, published a scientific paper in the October 2008 issue of the journal Palaios identifying the abundant impressions as comprising a large dinosaur "trample surface" in northern Arizona. There are so many tracks they wryly refer to the site as "a dinosaur dance floor."

University of Utah geologist Winston Seiler walks among hundreds of dinosaur footprints in a "trample surface" that likely was a watering hole amid desert sand dunes during the Jurassic Period 190 million years ago. The track site, which also includes some dinosaur tail-drag marks, is located in Coyote Buttes North area along the Arizona-Utah border.

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[RobertByers]

It was dinosaurs in panic during the beginning of the flood. Their last steps captured in mud turning to stone. Remember evolution must also admit the prints turned to stone by special covering and pressure.
The fact that they were thought to be water potholes shows incompetence and difficultly of figuring out unobserved events. Or the geologists are hopeless.
One gets school credit for this? Oh brother.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

It was dinosaurs in panic during the beginning of the flood. Their last steps captured in mud turning to stone. Remember evolution must also admit the prints turned to stone by special covering and pressure.
The fact that they were thought to be water potholes shows incompetence and difficultly of figuring out unobserved events. Or the geologists are hopeless.
One gets school credit for this? Oh brother.

So... how come we only find dinosaur footprints fossilised with other dinosaur footprints, and never with, say, elephant or gazelle footprints mixed in?

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

It was dinosaurs in panic during the beginning of the flood. .

Ha, so the flood started in the Jurassic?

So what about Cretaceous fossilised foot prints.

The small Sauropod trackways are highlighted by the red dotted lines. In total, 61 Sauropod footprints have been found, stretching across 4.25 metres, making this the longest fossil trackway of baby dinosaurs found to date. The footprints were made as these small dinosaurs, wandered across muddy land, the area is criss-crossed with other trackways made by dinosaurs, some of which can be seen in the diagram.
The direction of travel is difficult to make out in the picture, although the Sauropod trackway on the left, indicates that this animal was travelling from the top of the picture to the bottom, the other trackway is too unclear in this picture to make out the direction of travel. The lack of any object such as ruler or pencil to provide scale, makes it difficult to interpret the evidence. It is almost impossible to relate any trace fossils such as footprints to a particular genus, although the imprints are typical of Titanosaurids (a branch of the Sauropod family that was relatively common in the southern hemisphere during the Cretaceous).
It is not known what sort of Titanosaur made these trackways, or indeed if it was a Titanosaur, as the morphology of the animal may change as they grow bigger. Titanosaurs were long-necked, heavy set, herbivorous dinosaurs. A typical Titanosaur was Saltasaurus (a genus of Titanosaur known from South America).​

 

[EnemyPartyII]

And again, no elephant, or lion, or sheep, or human foot prints... why is that?

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

Arial View of the North America's Largest Dinosaur Tracksite on Comanche National Grassland

Research has uncovered that 150 million years ago two types of dinosaurs, Allosaurus (or related theropods) and Brontosaurs left their foot prints. Forty percent of the tracks were left by a massive four footed plant eater, the Brontosaurs accompanied by younger Brontosaurs heading west along the shoreline. The shores contained algae, clams, snail, crustaceans and fish. Parallel trackways indicate that several of the smaller brontosaurs were traveling as a group heading west along the shoreline. This evidence of social behavior among "juvenile" brontosaurs is the first of its kind from the Morrison Formation. The illustration at right shows the playful pattern of the juvenile brontosaurs. The other sixty percent of the tracks were left by the Allosaurus. They were two footed, three toed and ferocious meat eating scavengers hunting in packs.
The impact of these dinosaurs is evidenced by the fossils of trampled plant stems and a collection of several dozen clams that were killed by the heavy footfalls of brontosaurs. The tracksite is the largest and most important of the 30 or more Morrison tracksites known. It has more tracks than all of the others combined. The area is rich in geological and historical resources and is a haven for wildlife. Please help preserve this area and keep it beautiful.

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Quite clearly these track show that Jurassic sediments are NOT magical mystical biblical flood deposits.

People have to choose between scientific enlightenment and creationist dogma.

 

[RobertByers]

So... how come we only find dinosaur footprints fossilised with other dinosaur footprints, and never with, say, elephant or gazelle footprints mixed in?

The dinos did not live with these other creatures. It was a unclean fauna dominance while after the flood it was a clean mammal fauna dominance.
I don't want to find mix of these creatures. its impossible by this creationists concept of biogeography.

by the way. cute pictures but wrong words.
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