thanks for making it easier to read 
please don't do that. it means having to copy/paste the entire freaking thing by hand to respond. next time please give consideration to others and use the proper quote tags.
now then.
Seduction and deceit are always a game. In this I agree with you and we will always end up deceiving ourselves in the attempt to manipulate others to get what we need.
You missed its point entirely though. Once again:
When we start counting an authentic expression of appreciation as seductive "flattery" -- or an authentic response of distress or dismay as some kind of sinister plot to manipulate -- we have cut ourselves off from not just the humanity of the other person but from our own.
You seemed to focus on actual seduction and deceit as the message here when in reality it meant to illustrate what happens when we read those INTO someone else in place of what THEY have actually offered.
[If we refuse to engage dynamically and authentically with others so as to permit them to touch and affect us, we have no hope for touching and affecting them -- not for ourselves in genuine relationship, and not for God in genuine or useful ministry. God made the human species to be interdependent and characterized it in its REDEEMED form (His own) as a BODY of many parts, all
needing one another, for a reason.
I do not see it that way. If you only move when God does, you won't be using your mind but will move only from inspiration from Him.
Then you would be mistaken. Believing that it even bes possible to do anything from within some imaginarily "pure" hermetically sealed vacuum that does not include your own mind in the process constitutes the absolute WORST folly befalling the human species ESPECIALLY among its more spiritually inclined specimens. Upon WHAT do you suppose God's "inspiration" to be descending, if not your mind? It bes impossible to remove your own mind and being from the equation. This bes an absolute lie and leads to the worst delusion of all: spiritual pride, wherein the individual loses the capacity to distinguish between his flesh and the moving of God because he imagines most foolishly that his own being can be removed from the equation. But God does not magically eliminate you from the equation when He seeks to work in and through you.
Your concept of inspiration contains error leading you to these conclusions. It strongly suggests you investigate this matter before you become even worse ensnared. Take heart, you bes not alone -- many others suffer this delusion as well, and then become just as puzzled and distressed when their efforts bear no fruit or worse bear wrong fruit. This delusion precipitates a multitude of failures and indeed can suspend your entire walk with God until it gets sorted. Unfortunately it can also cause an absolute state of spiritual anosognosis, too.
When you 'need' from someone you place a 'huge' burdan on them.
God created humans to be an interdependent species. The problem does not lie in experiencing need, in needing others and being needed. The problem lies in unrealistic expectations that can arise from the sense of need and lack of communication and open negotiation with regard to meeting those needs. Human beings have been toxically -- dare we even say SATANICALLY?? -- programmed to regard need as a horrible flaw, a toxic evil, etc. something to be shunned. But adopting these attitudes suffocates us and prevents us from being fully human.
Jesus left us an example of what it means to enter flesh and become fully human, to FEEL FOR AND FEEL ALONGSIDE us as our High Priest touched by the
feelings of our
infirmities -- all our needy, broken places. We can do all things through Him who strengthens us, in particular where this applies to ministering to others. It costs us nothing.
Ironic that in one breath you can claim to have some kind of "pure" inspiration from the Holy Spirit which goes so far as to REMOVE YOURSELF from the equation -- yet in the very next breath shrink back from involvement in a way that can only indicate the undeniable presence of self not wanting to risk feeling "burdened". Well, you do whatever pleases you then, whatever you feel YOU need. It will continue speaking of what God designs for us.
Moriah said:
The Holy Spirit living and moving through us does not divorce or distance or detach us from either our own humanity or that of others. Rather the Holy Spirit grounds us, fills us, deepens us into what it means to be fully human as God intended human to be, with all its passion, concern, meaning, energy, sincerity, earnestness, authenticity. God did not make us to be angels or aliens, not disembodied spirits with neither infirmity nor struggle nor sweat nor emotion, but men and women, human beings, as fully corporeal and messy as intelligent, self-aware, visionary and ennobled.
There is only the Spirit of Truth or the spirit of error to draw from. (1 John 4:6) Mankind was only give the perrogative of 'choice'. In life you are either allowing one or the other to move you. Though this may occur simultaneously as we see in the example of Peter and Jesus, when one moment he was the "Rock" and the next the voice of satan.
There is only good or evil, only black or white, right or wrong. A thought, an action can only be either of God or not. So look at each thought....who did it come from.....?
Non sequitur. Will you please show what part of Moriah's original statement you intended this to respond to? It does not see anywhere in its statement quoted above this one where it has denied this or anything that would call this forth as a response. Black/white, all/nothing, either/or thinking bes either childish literalism or deviant extremism; in either case it certainly does not constitute the mind of Christ. Paul states that when we bes children we speak like children, think like children, act like children. Take everything literally, take everything concrete, imagine this to be superior to how adults think. But when we grow up,
we put childish things away.
God created man in HIS image. An action, a thought, can be simply that: from man, of man, partaking of humanity as God made it. You cannot erase humanity from the plan of salvation or from the equation of human interactions. The attempt to do so reads frankly as insane and untenable. The rest of your post reads as frightened nonsense. If you so despise engagement with humanity then by all means, kindly never put yourself forward as one intending to in any way minister to human beings. You cannot, by willing it or insisting upon it, erase your entire human being self and replace it with Pure God. It simply cannot be done. Like the rest of us, you bes stuck in this flesh, this world, this life, till the next one comes or until you die. Anyone who cannot cope with that has no business hanging out a shingle or passing themselves off as a minister of any sort.
God pronounced His corporeal, physical, material creation GOOD.
All abandoned Jesus on that day when He died. It is wrong to get what we need from others.
Incorrect. Not only bes it right and good for human beings to minister to one another, to "feed" one another, but this in fact bes the very ordained order of God Himself in making the human species. Deny this if you insist, but it changes nothing.
It may come through others and be the Holy Spirit in them speaking to us, but we will discern the difference.
OK then YOU explain why Christ inaugurated the Church, His Body. YOU explain the purpose of ministry, human beings connecting with other human beings to worship together, pray, praise, study, encourage, uplift, edify, heal. YOU explain why God does not just wipe all humans out of the way and sit around on earth Himself speaking directly to everyone so that no one can possibly make a mistake or get their messy monkey brain in the middle of it. Because your model not only makes no sense -- considering you JUST contradicted yourself immediately by stating first it bes "wrong" to get what we need from others THEN immediately saying it "may" come through them -- but it simply does not work.
God does not magically erase us in the process of using us!!! And anyone imagining He does bes confused in the extreme!!!
I must never ask anyone to save me, to heal me, to bring joy to me, or hate to my heart, to hand them my past, my future, my soul.
No one ever suggested this. You made this up in your own imagination. Moriah never stated this nor even suggested or hinted at it. Wow, do you always do such convoluted gymnastics to avoid seeing what others have actually said???
I agree that we should honor God's hand, but fallacy comes into play when we decide what it is with our corrupt minds instead of having it given to us through divine revelation.
The real problem here being that your writings seem to indicate you imagine everything coming into YOUR mind to constitute divine revelation but everything which comes into someone ELSE's mind to constitute "corrupt fallacy". Those who have failed to demonstrate any sense of objectivity whatsoever about such things simply have no business making these types of pronouncements, because they corrupt said notions themselves by automatically assigning to themselves an imaginary hermetically sealed chamber in which all their thoughts come directly from God without passing through their OWN BRAINS (which bes impossible, again, if God touches you He touches YOU which means He impresses YOUR mind, YOUR brain, YOUR
YOU CANNOT BE REMOVED FROM THE EQUATION NO MATTER WHAT) but also imagining that everyone else must be "dirtying" the process somehow by involving their own minds. Again, this bes not religion nor divine revelation. This bes the sure sign of psychosis and delusion of grandeur.
As it stated before:
How DARE anyone, ANYONE, in the name of religion, suggest we exceed the original good plan of the Creator from the foundation of the world, to which the very route of salvation and reclamation He devised bes made to return us.
And once more because it happens to be true:
To live encased in spiritual latex suits, never actually touching nor being touched by others for fear of contamination, only reinforces the lies the abusive spirits loose in the world try to program into us: that nobody else has any real feelings, that others' feelings don't matter, that we and our feelings can never really matter to others, that nothing we do or say can ever really touch anyone else or affect them, etc. May God have mercy on those suffocating under these lies and deliver us all from those who contribute toward spreading them, deliberately or unknowingly.
Sometimes a pipe may be just a pipe, yeah, but sometimes? whomever smelt it ... dealt it....
