Topless Danes

[*Starlight*]

No, it does not make my argument fail.
Those who have been purchased by the shed blood of the Lamb
are the Lord's sheep. His sheep hear His voice, He knows them
and they follow Him.

(John 10:27)
My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Jesus

I see ZERO evidence that confirms your claims in that post.

By the way, "My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" doesn't mean "My Sheep are always correct about everything they say".

 

[IamRedeemed]

No blood of the Lamb of God, the only provision God has offered
to mankind for the remission of sins= NO REMISSION OF SINS = NO SALVATION

That's true, I don't believe in blood sacrifices. But she repeatedly says that everyone's who disagrees with her opinions is against God.

 

[Iskra]

You mean there are false doctrines and false translations available?
This is I agree with, but those who have been purchased by the shed
blood of the Lamb of God have the power of the Holy Spirit working
within them that enables them to discern truth from lies.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Jesus.

You are joking?!!

So it's not the Bible that is infallable, it is you?! The talk of pride earlier in this thread comes into new light.

 

[*Starlight*]

No blood of the Lamb of God, the only provision God has offered
to mankind for the remission of sins= NO REMISSION OF SINS = NO SALVATION

Why?

 

[IamRedeemed]

"My Sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me."
Jesus

But in contrast:
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure;
but even their mind and conscience is defiled.They profess that they know God; but in works
they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Titus 1:15-16

I see ZERO evidence that confirms your claims in that post.

By the way, "My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" doesn't mean "My Sheep are always correct about everything they say".

 

[*Starlight*]

"My Sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me."
Jesus

What if you are wrong?

 

[Nadiine]

Wrong she said blood bought agrees with her - you and several others have stated that you dont consider yourself blood bought with your own mouth - from your post #290 in this thread : Since you dont consider yourself blood bought why would it be an insult - a blood bought believer is one who believes the BIBLE is the word of God and that Christs blood is what paid for their sin and that without the shedding of blood there is no remission.

According to your own words that isnt you nor would it be any post modernist here who dont believe the bible.

this is exactly the way I view this by the statements that were made.

Christ IS the sacrifice, and without blood, there is not remission of sin (atonement for the soul).
He either bought us (ransomed) by His blood or He did not. This is the basic gospel message.

Most miss that it's the BIBLE that defines and sets the Standard for what a Christian IS - even the OT people had parchments they followed and they rehearsed the law verbally from generation to generation.
they held a cohesive belief system stemming from the scriptures written by the patriarchs & prophets; it wasn't people who accepted the OT and who didn't who were all "God's people" -
We see this in Jesus' statement in Luke 16, that they must accept the scriptures as testimony of God.

27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house,
28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’
29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’
30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’
31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”

 

[IamRedeemed]

How you come to such a conclusion from:

You mean there are false doctrines and false translations available?
This is I agree with, but those who have been purchased by the shed
blood of the Lamb of God have the power of the Holy Spirit working
within them that enables them to discern truth from lies.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Jesus.

.....is very irrational to say the least. For it is NOT by my power, NOR by my might,
but by the Holy Spirit, who works within those who have been purchased by the
shed blood of the Lamb, as is clearly indicated in my post and attributes nothing
to my carnal abilities.

Those who do not have the Holy Spirit working within them on the other hand
have nothing BUT carnal thoughts and abilities to which they depend.
Their faith is in themselves, and the spirits attached to that are a spirit of pride
and a spirit of rebellion.

You are joking?!!

So it's not the Bible that is infallable, it is you?! The talk of pride earlier in this thread comes into new light.

 

[*Starlight*]

How you come to such a conclusion from:

.....is very irrational to say the least. For it is NOT by my power, NOR by my might,
but by the Holy Spirit, who works within those who have been purchased by the
shed blood of the Lamb, as is clearly indicated in my post and attributes nothing
to my carnal abilities.

Those who do not have the Holy Spirit working within them on the other hand
have nothing BUT carnal thoughts and abilities to which they depend.
Their faith is in themselves, and the spirits attached to that are a spirit of pride
and a spirit of rebellion.

So, do you believe that if someone has the Holy Spirit working within them, then they are always right about everything they say?

 

[Iskra]

How you come to such a conclusion from:

.....is very irrational to say the least. For it is NOT by my power, NOR by my might,
but by the Holy Spirit, who works within those who have been purchased by the
shed blood of the Lamb, as is clearly indicated in my post and attributes nothing
to my carnal abilities.

Those who do not have the Holy Spirit working within them on the other hand
have nothing BUT carnal thoughts and abilities to which they depend.
Their faith is in themselves, and the spirits attached to that are a spirit of pride
and a spirit of rebellion.

Still, you know that there are different interpretations of the Bible, and I am of course not talking about "false Bibles" here, all of these fail in understanding God if they ead anything in a different way than you do? Probably not everyone in your own church reads everything exactly the way you do. Isn't that saying that you are infallable? Not even the pope claims such infallability.

I think you should be a little bit more humble with the words of God.

 

[The Lady Kate]

I see , so without any bible and without any witness from anyone about Jesus - you knew who he was and He told you himself what His commandment was- is that right?

I had guides back when I needed them... people and writings which helped put me in touch with the Lord in my heart... I thank those guides, but I no longer need them. I know the Way now.

How about you? Know the Way yet?

 

[The Lady Kate]

Post Modern Jesus is a idol.

Any less so than the Bible as you would have me use it?

 

[Nadiine]

What if you are wrong?

what if YOU are? It's YOU who decides the Bible is false.

You have LESS to go on as a foundation to base anything on than we do.

What do YOU have to prove anything you believe is right?

 

[Angel4Truth]

I had guides back when I needed them... people and writings which helped put me in touch with the Lord in my heart... I thank those guides, but I no longer need them. I know the Way now.

How about you? Know the Way yet?

Guides? What kind of guides would that be? Also what exactly is "the way" in your opinion? way

The only "way" in mine is Jesus Christ alone. His shed blood paid for my sin and I am no longer my own.

 

[IamRedeemed]

But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from
the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwells in you.

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if you live after the
flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you have received the
Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Romans 8:8-17


If your life and your witness (that which is spoken from your mouth) bears this testimony you
can be assured, you are not wrong. But if one's mouth denies the shed blood of Christ,
and attempts to enter in some other way, one cannot obtain the quickening of the Holy Spirit,
and if one has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His and only deceives him or herself.

What if you are wrong?

 

[Nadiine]

Any less so than the Bible as you would have me use it?

so as we see here, the people promoting open nudity are people who REJECT the BIBLE predominantly.

fancy that. Well that right there clears up alot for me and makes all the difference.

 

[The Lady Kate]

this is what this all boils down to, which we all knew is the spiritual source of the conflict. This is the basic division in spirit.

And yet, even divided, we shall eventually reach the same place.

The god being defined is not the god I ascribe to - the worldviews differ drastically becuz of that. I'll continue to stand where I'm at.

Biblically, I'm being taught here that the ways of the world are right and that I decide in myself what is moral when my Bible says otherwise.
So.... no thanks.

What exactly does your Bible say? "Dress modestly."
Does the Bible explicitly tell you how much is modest and how much is not? No. Where then shall you pick up that piece of wisdom?
More importantly, where shall the rest of us pick it up?
From you?... no thanks.

 

[drstevej]

Any less so than the Bible as you would have me use it?

Jesus responded to Satan three times by quoting from Deuteronomy to counter Satan's error. Paul commended folks as noble who searched the Scriptures daily to evaluate his teaching.

Yet you have cast it aside as training wheels that are unneeded now that you have a mystical link that makes the Bible obsolete.

Do I know the Way? I know the one who prayed for His disciples saying "sanctify them in the Truth, Thy Word is truth."

 

[IamRedeemed]

By the sounds of it, it must be same kind of guides the Lord Jesus spoke of and called
"blind guides leading the blind, and both end up in a ditch."

The "WAY" is a New Age Cult.

I had guides back when I needed them... people and writings which helped put me in touch with the Lord in my heart... I thank those guides, but I no longer need them. I know the Way now.

How about you? Know the Way yet?

 

[Nadiine]

But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from
the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwells in you.

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if you live after the
flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you have received the
Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we
suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Romans 8:8-17


If your life and your witness (that which is spoken from your mouth) bears this testimony you
can be assured, you are not wrong. But if one's mouth denies the shed blood of Christ,
and attempts to enter in some other way, one cannot obtain the quickening of the Holy Spirit,
and if one has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His and only deceives him or herself.

"you must spread more reputation around before giving it to Iamredeemed again"



Soli Deo Gloria