Would you date outside your denomination?

[Beautiful Fireball]

I would, but eventually for me to consider something more serious she would have to be okay with worshipping where I am at because ultimately I believe the Man is ordained in the relationship to be the Spiritual Leader of the relationship and eventually the marriage it if gets to that point.

So does that mean that whatever he says goes as far as where to worship, with no thought to what she might need?

 

[Mrs. Luther073082]

There are some denominations I would be OK with but there are also some that I want nothing to do with.

Even if the person was OK, there are some churches I have a bad impression of and I wouldn't want to set foot in their church much less take any children I might raise into it.

I did not answer your poll because there was no answer there that fit me.

 

[Carrye]

No, I wouldn't date non-Catholics. To me it seems like the most practical and responsible thing both for me, for him, and for any future children. Being Catholic is who I am.

Maybe that's why I understand Kirk's comments and the post made by GQ Chris in the other thread. While their personal stance excludes someone like me, a Catholic, I feel like they're being honest and true to themselves. It seems like they're trying to give the best of themselves to another person. I have a great deal of respect for that.

 

[sampa]

thinking about this question again, my deonomination is non-denominational, so it shouldn't pose a real problem. At one time I may have thought it concerning Catholics (I spent 21yrs as a Catholic and quite serious at the time about it), but even that I'm open to now.

Outside of faith (buddhist, atheist, shinto, agnostic, etc) , I might go on 2 dates max. And I have.

Getting serious, faith would be a serious issue. Sometimes background can make a lot of weight, for example I got the history of the guy I'm interested in now.

He grew up with a baptist preacher father. I'm not sure when his parent divorced but they started attending pentacostal churches at 14 years old - (I'm not sure what kind of pent. this can make a difference) At 18 or so went off to a UPC school to get his ministerial license. Became a youth pastor at a UPC church near me and met his wife.

Eventually the strictness of the church and manipulation going on made his wife not want anything to do with it. Their marriage began falling apart, he left UPC and sought out other churches. They divorced and he walked away from faith out of anger for his wife wanting to divorce.

His walk away lasted about a year, doing the total rebel tats, drugs etc thing. Went in the Army and has since said he believes in God but is still leary about churches - mostly because of his experience with control.

so do I not go on a date with him because of his current place or that UPC is part of his faith journey? It's not where I'm feeling lead at the moment. As I said before I'm willing to give about 2 dates a chance and if I don't see a heart for God or willingness to learn, then I see no future. For me it's not so cut and dry as far as denomination goes. I've seen too many marriages that have fallen apart and they both had same denom. or even the same amount of faith.

Where their heart is, like David of the bible, is where I put the most weight. Even David screwed up, but he had a repentant heart.

 

[Lady Bug]

No, I wouldn't date non-Catholics. To me it seems like the most practical and responsible thing both for me, for him, and for any future children. Being Catholic is who I am.

Maybe that's why I understand Kirk's comments and the post made by GQ Chris in the other thread. While their personal stance excludes someone like me, a Catholic, I feel like they're being honest and true to themselves. It seems like they're trying to give the best of themselves to another person. I have a great deal of respect for that.

I agree, Carrye we are very similar in this regard

 

[Niels]

If we both accept Jesus as our savior, and we get along well enough on cultural and theological levels, then I would date her regardless of her official denomination.


I consider myself a Congregationalist.

http://www.bartleby.com/65/co/Congrega.html

 

[GQ Chris]

So does that mean that whatever he says goes as far as where to worship, with no thought to what she might need?

No, absolutely not. But Ultimately, the Man is the Spiritual leader with consideration of what she wants, but when it comes to the final decisions like as in the most important decisions in life, the Man is ordained as the Spiritual Head, not like an Opressor or dictator, but like in how Christ loved the Church, if you don't understand what I am saying, just do your own research and pray about it.. I am tired of people villifying me on here whenever I bring this topic up. Not that you're villifying me, but honestly, a lot of Christian Women have a Huge problem with submission and accepting this.

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

No, absolutely not. But Ultimately, the Man is the Spiritual leader with consideration of what she wants, but when it comes to the final decisions like as in the most important decisions in life, the Man is ordained as the Spiritual Head, not like an Opressor or dictator, but like in how Christ loved the Church, if you don't understand what I am saying, just do your own research and pray about it.. I am tired of people villifying me on here whenever I bring this topic up. Not that you're villifying me, but honestly, a lot of Christian Women have a Huge problem with submission and accepting this.

I don't agree with you. But I was just asking for clarification and I apologize if it seemed I was vilifying you.

 

[GQ Chris]

I don't agree with you. But I was just asking for clarification and I apologize if it seemed I was vilifying you.

read again, I said not that you were villifying me. I know you weren't villifying me. What exactly don't you agree with? Can you clarify, I pretty much already clarified what I believed.

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

read again, I said not that you were villifying me. I know you weren't villifying me. What exactly don't you agree with? Can you clarify, I pretty much already clarified what I believed.

I believe in mutual submission and if both parties can't be happy then no one has the right to make the final decision. If the couple can't agree on which of their churches to go to they find a new one together. The spiritual health of a woman is just as important as a man so therefore he does not have the right to force his wife into a church that would not help her spiritually. And honestly I don't see why a loving husband would do that in the first place.

 

[GQ Chris]

I believe in mutual submission and if both parties can't be happy then no one has the right to make the final decision. If the couple can't agree on which of their churches to go to they find a new one together.

What you believe isn't liveable unless you plan on getting together with a Man with no backbone. God has ordained the Man to be totally responsible for the leadership and direction of the household/marriage, again, not like a tyrant or with the wife having no say so whatsoever, but in the way that Christ loved the church, always in love, always with love in mind, always respectful of the woman, not like how women are treated in Sharia law countries.

Also what you said about no one having the right for a final decision, can you back that up biblically? A Man will be held more accountable for the relationship/marriage according to Scripture, when Eve sinned in the garden who was held finally accountable.. that's right, Adam, God looked for Adam.

Of course the spiritual health of a woman is just as important, but that's not to say that supercedes the authority of the Man of God when it comes down to who will be held ultimately accountable.

 

[Wren]

yes, as long as they were willing to find a common ground. I would be willing to do that as well. If they 100% insisted that i become their denomination (no matter the denomination), no questions asked , then no. I would be more concerned if they were a Christian who had a daily personal relationship with Christ.

That's how I feel as well.

 

[mina]

Can we get this thread back on topic? sorry I hate to say that but it's kinda going off in a totally different direction with potential for an argument or at least someone saying something they don't mean. Can ya'll take it to pm or start a new thread? If i'm being a jerk for asking , then forgive me.

 

[GQ Chris]

Can we get this thread back on topic? sorry I hate to say that but it's kinda going off in a totally different direction with potential for an argument or at least someone saying something they don't mean. Can ya'll take it to pm or start a new thread? If i'm being a jerk for asking , then forgive me.

Oh come on, we are on topic

Why won't Christians stand up for the Truth any more and stand up for Scripture instead of going by what the rest of the world believes relationships should be about...

I'm going to keep standing up for Truth and for Jesus Christ instead of what most Christians like to do which is to fade into the background, cower away from standing up for the Truth for fear of "offending" someone. Do we not have Strong Women any more, and I am talking Strong Women like Ruth, Rebekah, ie. Proverbs 31.. and not strong like cult of Opra, desperate housewives or the view

 

[mina]

um ok, i don't see that this thread is about all that, lol I just meant that this thread is about "Would you date outside your denomination?"

 

[GQ Chris]

um ok, i don't see that this thread is about all that, lol I just meant that this thread is about "Would you date outside your denomination?"

I'm just trying to encourage a young Christian Woman Beautiful Fireball to think Biblically. The more experienced Christians on here who've been in relationships know that the serious decision making and tough decisions have to be made by someone, in a perfect world we would always agree and both would always come to a consensus, but we know life in this fallen world doesn't work that way and that's why we are to live with the "Mind of Christ" and think Biblically. Scripture should be our guide, not pop culture or watered down liberal church theology..

 

[Mrs. Luther073082]

Can ya'll take it to pm or start a new thread?

qft

 

[LadyOfMystery]

Another reason I brought this up is because, like I said before I'm Baptist, and I have family who are other denominations and when I look at what they believe (and I know their beliefs are not all of those who are the denomination) I don't want to be that denomination, and if I found a guy who was Baptist, it would just be easier. Even if one loves Christ, I've noticed that a lot of denominations still have different views on things even if they are all Christians.

 

[GQ Chris]

Another reason I brought this up is because, like I said before I'm Baptist, and I have family who are other denominations and when I look at what they believe (and I know their beliefs are not all of those who are the denomination) I don't want to be that denomination, and if I found a guy who was Baptist, it would just be easier. Even if one loves Christ, I've noticed that a lot of denominations still have different views on things even if they are all Christians.

That's smart, and yes it is practical to think that way, because anytime you have differences of belief in theology.. its a lesser form of being unequally yoked.

 

[Luther073082]

Another reason I brought this up is because, like I said before I'm Baptist, and I have family who are other denominations and when I look at what they believe (and I know their beliefs are not all of those who are the denomination) I don't want to be that denomination, and if I found a guy who was Baptist, it would just be easier. Even if one loves Christ, I've noticed that a lot of denominations still have different views on things even if they are all Christians.

That is the thing, the one belief that I am talking about is a purely Lutheran belief and I don't see how anyone can scripturally defend anything that isn't real presence or transubstantiation.

If she'll become Lutheran, I'm ok with that, and I don't really care too much about if she is a confessional Lutheran or a non-confessional Lutheran.