Christian Homophobia

[EnemyPartyII]

a) Again, are you saying that you don't know this problem of the political agenda of forcing the perversion down the throats of society to be common knowledge?

b) The problem I and any other good parent have at family places is the same problem we would have with anyone being sexually explicit in front of children in family arenas. The gays however, seem to feel this is their right to expose children and everyone else to their bedroom.

a. nope, I don't know of any political agenda interested in forcing perversion down the throats of society. NAMBLA, maybe, but they are pretty fringe... but other than that? Nope/

b. I'd condemn anyone being sexually explicet in front of children too... hetero OR homosexual... so, you have a big problem with homosexuals having sex at amusement parks in your area do you?

If that isn't what you mean, please explain what you mean by "sexually explicit"

 

[brightmorningstar]

Christian homophobia is a contradiction in terms.

Firstly whilst there may be some Christians who fear homosexuality, this is a compromise of a basic Christian belief that God so loved the world, that whosoever believes...
Secondly, there are plenty of Christian homosexuals who believe same-sex sex is wrong and who thus classed homophobic.

 

[IamRedeemed]

First of all, why NAMBLA even exists is beyond me since it is a pedophilia promoting organization.

I find it odd that you know about them, but state that you have no clue about the homosexual agenda.

If you are being sincere and it is totally above your scope of knowledge that there is a major political agenda that consists of the gay community trying to force their perversion down the throats of society, perhaps you should study the activities of organizations such as GLSEN.


b) There is a big gap that can and does contain offensive behavior in front of children between holding hands and having sex wouldn't you say?

I find it interesting (or rather typical) that your attempt to deny the truth starts at two extreme ends of the spectrum.

a. nope, I don't know of any political agenda interested in forcing perversion down the throats of society. NAMBLA, maybe, but they are pretty fringe... but other than that? Nope/

b. I'd condemn anyone being sexually explicet in front of children too... hetero OR homosexual... so, you have a big problem with homosexuals having sex at amusement parks in your area do you?

If that isn't what you mean, please explain what you mean by "sexually explicit"

 

[MelissaShae]

First of all, why NAMBLA even exists is beyond me since it is a pedophilia promoting organization.

I find it odd that you know about them, but state that you have no clue about the homosexual agenda.

If you are being sincere and it is totally above your scope of knowledge that there is a major political agenda that consists of the gay community trying to force their perversion down the throats of society, perhaps you should study the activities of organizations such as GLSEN.


b) There is a big gap that can and does contain offensive behavior in front of children between holding hands and having sex wouldn't you say?

I find it interesting (or rather typical) that your attempt to deny the truth starts at two extreme ends of the spectrum.

the ACLU is another group that you could add to that list.

 

[IamRedeemed]

They are not a homosexual organization in particular, however they are absolutely advocates of everything anti-Christ.

Some refer to them as the Anti-Christ Liberals Union= ACLU. Which I personally think is accurate.

the ACLU is another group that you could add to that list.

 

[Ave Maria]

They are not a homosexual organization in particular, however they are absolutely advocates of everything anti-Christ.

Some refer to them as the Anti-Christ Liberals Union= ACLU. Which I personally think is accurate.

No they're not. The ACLU has many times fought for Christians.

 

[IamRedeemed]

I believe you have the ACLU confused with the ACLJ.
A common mistake btw.

No they're not. The ACLU has many times fought for Christians.

 

[MelissaShae]

No they're not. The ACLU has many times fought for Christians.

NOt the ACLU they are against Christians.

Perhaps you are thinking of the ACLJ http://www.aclj.org/


The ACLU is however not a fan of Christians

go here to find a few examples of how the ACLU does not defend the rights of Christians
http://naacd.com/blog/

 

[MezzaMorta]

No they're not. The ACLU has many times fought for Christians.

The ACLU is an origination committed to upholding the laws of this land and the rights of all individuals. At times they have advocated the rights of non-christians (go figure) in cases mostly around the separation of church and state. Doesn't make them anti-christian.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Contrare. They have sought/seek to change and redefine, not uphold the laws of this land, that have made this country the great nation it is..er.....was.

And sorry, despite your attempt at coming to their defense, their long record speaks for itself.

The ACLU is an origination committed to upholding the laws of this land and the rights of all individuals. At times they have advocated the rights of non-christians (go figure) in cases mostly around the separation of church and state. Doesn't make them anti-christian.

 

[WalkingforHim]

WHile I don't always agree with the cases the ACLU takes, they certainly aren't anti-Christian, and have taken plenty of Christian clients.

 

[MezzaMorta]

Contrare. They have sought/seek to change and redefine, not uphold the laws of this land, that have made this country the great nation it is..er.....was.

And sorry, despite your attempt at coming to their defense, their long record speaks for itself.

The views of the forefathers on this nation were pretty clearly layed out for future generations. The ACLU alot of the time seeks to protect the fundamental nature of our secular state against encroachments of various religions.

I've seen many case where they have fought for the civil libertys of Christians... they simply do not discriminate. For instance the issue of free speech, a Christian student who's year book entry was denied because it sighted the bible... the ACLU fought for her case in court.

The people who lable the ACLU are the very ones who want prayer in school, who want Christianity to be the "official state religion"...

When ever they take cases to court that would seemly be "anti-christian" jsut look at it this way, if America were majority Muslim and you were a Christian minority would you want your children to be part of "prayers to muhammad" in public school? Would you want "In Allah we trust" on the national currency?

Separation of Church and State is a great thing, it lets me practice my religion, you practice yours and keeps it out of the government and their institutions. The ACLU has done nothing other than support that as well as fight in the defense of any breech of civil libertys.

 

[Bianca87]

If you are being sincere and it is totally above your scope of knowledge that there is a major political agenda that consists of the gay community trying to force their perversion down the throats of society,

if you define a behaviour perversion you will obviously blame any group who behaves that way and claims not to be discriminated for it.
what is wrong is not your conclusion, it's your axiom.
the definition of same sex as perversion, it's your dogma, your belief...not something a society can assume as true (since, differently from pedophilia it's harmless).
if i claim eating cereals is a perversion, anybody's attempt to not be discriminated for doing so, would be a perverted agenda to me, but that would have to be my problem.

 

[IamRedeemed]

You are right in that I agree with the One who created us that homosexuality is a perverted version of His purpose aka "perversion" for making our bodies this way.

But it doesn't take a religious or a political view, but merely a set of eyes with decent visual capability to view and conclude which parts go with which parts thereby making it relatively non-confusing as to what is natural and what is not.

The bonus of the realization of abnormality is within the reproductive capacities.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for a homosexual couple, male or female to procreate on their own naturally.

And quite contrare that it is harmless. Men who have lived gay lifestyles all of their sexually active life, can expect to live to mid forties. Less if they are intravenous drug users.

Lesbian Women who have also lived gay lifestyles all of their sexually active lives, to late 40's early 50's.

That is 20-30 years shorter than either should be living.

And yes on this topic my complaint is the public display of sexual expression that should not be expressed in front of children whether hetero or homosexual. But it is the homosexuals who think they have this right.

And if we don't know that they have had an ongoing political agenda and are targeting 5 & 6 year olds in public schools to get them pre-programmed, while pushing legislatures, and targeting society in their family arenas with their parades, then we are either sticking our head in the sand and ignoring it, are very young and truly do not realize it, or have no access to any form of media, as in living in a cave somewhere.

if you define a behaviour perversion you will obviously blame any group who behaves that way and claims not to be discriminated for it.
what is wrong is not your conclusion, it's your axiom.
the definition of same sex as perversion, it's your dogma, your belief...not something a society can assume as true (since, differently from pedophilia it's harmless).
if i claim eating cereals is a perversion, anybody's attempt to not be discriminated for doing so, would be a perverted agenda to me, but that would have to be my problem.

 

[artybloke]

Then you're merely responsible for not checking up yourself. In which case you're careless.

They are nevertheless malicious lies, whether you told them knowing they were false or not.

 

[Bianca87]

You are right in that I agree with the One who created us that homosexuality is a perverted version of His purpose aka "perversion" for making our bodies this way.

But it doesn't take a religious or a political view, but merely a set of eyes with decent visual capability to view and conclude which parts go with which parts thereby making it relatively non-confusing as to what is natural and what is not.

The bonus of the realization of abnormality is within the reproductive capacities.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for a homosexual couple, male or female to procreate on their own naturally.

And quite contrare that it is harmless. Men who have lived gay lifestyles all of their sexually active life, can expect to live to mid forties. Less if they are intravenous drug users.

Lesbian Women who have also lived gay lifestyles all of their sexually active lives, to late 40's early 50's.

That is 20-30 years shorter than either should be living.

And yes on this topic my complaint is the public display of sexual expression that should not be expressed in front of children whether hetero or homosexual. But it is the homosexuals who think they have this right.

And if we don't know that they have had an ongoing political agenda and are targeting 5 & 6 year olds in public schools to get them pre-programmed, while pushing legislatures, and targeting society in their family arenas with their parades, then we are either sticking our head in the sand and ignoring it, are very young and truly do not realize it, or have no access to any form of media, as in living in a cave somewhere.

please show some evidence about your ridiculous claim. and even if it was true (it's not), how would this harm others?
the concept of natural is very complicated, i wouldn't abuse it.
homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom, and everything that is not natural, it's cultural, homosexuality exists in human culture. how do you explain the fact that you can have an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] with anal sex?
yes, homosexuals can't repruduce, but not everybody believes that sex is only for making babies.
i really haven't seen all these gay associations who want homosexuals to have sex in front of children, have you?
what you call an agenda, i call an attempt to teach tolerance of minorities. is this wrong?
is wrong then to discourage racism in children?

 

[UnitedInChrist]

You are right in that I agree with the One who created us that homosexuality is a perverted version of His purpose aka "perversion" for making our bodies this way.

But it doesn't take a religious or a political view, but merely a set of eyes with decent visual capability to view and conclude which parts go with which parts thereby making it relatively non-confusing as to what is natural and what is not.
Once again, the sexually obsessed religioius fanatic. Why is this? I see many indecent activies in straight people all over the world. The act of sex is who's business? Is it natural to eat with your feet? I'd think not, but what about the person with no arms that has learned how to do this? Is that a perversion?

The bonus of the realization of abnormality is within the reproductive capacities.
As has consistently been pointed out...gay people can reproduce...and they do. With eachother..of course not..but then again, there are many heterosexuals that do not produce either..so again...perversion??

It is IMPOSSIBLE for a homosexual couple, male or female to procreate on their own naturally.
Your point? What about the heterosexual couple that find it impossible to procreate naturally? Perversion?

And quite contrare that it is harmless. Men who have lived gay lifestyles all of their sexually active life, can expect to live to mid forties. Less if they are intravenous drug users.
LOL. This is rich. I guess we can't expect to find any gay men over the age of 45? You are joking with this comment aren't u? No only can they expect to live to their mid40s...but they can expect to live to their mid70s. I think you need to be more concerned with innercity youth, and black youth at that...many don't even make it til 30. You care about that at all, or is your sex obsession blinding you from that?

Lesbian Women who have also lived gay lifestyles all of their sexually active lives, to late 40's early 50's.
Ridiculous as the comment stated above

That is 20-30 years shorter than either should be living.

And yes on this topic my complaint is the public display of sexual expression that should not be expressed in front of children whether hetero or homosexual. But it is the homosexuals who think they have this right.
Why are you so angry? This is not faith speaking here...this is pure hatred. Why? There must be a reason for it. Homosexuals "think they have this right"...you are absurd! Anyone has the right to show affection. One needs to know when enough is enough, and it isn't a homosexual thing at all...when they are being "too" affectionate. Honestly, your remarks are so bizarre, I'm not even sure why I'm taking the time to respond.

And if we don't know that they have had an ongoing political agenda and are targeting 5 & 6 year olds in public schools to get them pre-programmed, while pushing legislatures, and targeting society in their family arenas with their parades, then we are either sticking our head in the sand and ignoring it, are very young and truly do not realize it, or have no access to any form of media, as in living in a cave somewhere.
Wher does all of this paranoia come from?? What kindergarten class or first grade class talks about sexuality at all? Certainly not in any public schools I know of. None that I went to...none that any of the kids I went to...and I'm from a VERY BLUE state where if this were to happen..it would. "Pre Programmed"?? I think fundies handle that one pretty well when it comes to indoctrianating children before they know any better. Hence all the problems with youth in our bible belt. the countries HIGHEST drug/alcohol/abuse crimes INCLUDING spousal abuse. Why is that? Targeting society with their parades??? I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at this.... There are parades for EVERYTHING in this country. From Colombus Day to Puerto Rican Day Parades...From Gay Pride parades, to Haitian Day parades, etc... is this all "targeting society"? Parades get outta hand..I'll be the first to tell you that, and I don't go to gay pride parades because I believe those people don't represent homosexuals anymore than fundies represent christians...but they certainly are not targeting anyone.. As for media...tell me one media outlet that televises or targets society with gay parades? Living in the NYC area,, with the countries largest gay pride parade, has never made more than 15 seconds worth of news coverage...so tell me where you live that gives it so much attention?

You need to look into your own internal issues with your rage, hatred, and paranoia about something you know less than nothing about.

 

[WalkingforHim]

You can say that you don't believe it and request more information, but to call me a malicious liar
is unacceptable.

You accusation are the equivilent to accusing Jews of eating babies, and poisoning crops. If someone said those things, I'ld call them the very same thing, for the very same reasons.

You're spreading lies, and that makes you a liar, whether you accept it or not.

 

[Brieuse]

You accusation are the equivilent to accusing Jews of eating babies, and poisoning crops. If someone said those things, I'ld call them the very same thing, for the very same reasons.

You're spreading lies, and that makes you a liar, whether you accept it or not.

They were statistics taken off an anti-gay website, I've seen them before.

 

[MelissaShae]

I think that we all need to take a deep breath and quit making accusations of anyone or any group without having facts to back it up.