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IS that ALL people here have time to do is complain and gossip?!?! I can NOT believe the lack of love at this whole forum. GIVE me a break. You hear a little of something and run off with gossip like it was the gospel. Let me ask..IF you all had that kind of money..since you are so worried about feeding people etc..WOULD YOU use YOUR money and do that?? I some how doubt it. Look how selfish you are here at this site!! Cutting people down...gossiping...SHEESH!
AMEN sister!!!
 
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Interesting responses.

I honestly do not see anyone posting in connection with gossip. However, what I am concerned about is that individuals can find a place where they practice indulgence and excess and if/when anyone else does bring it up, it is considered 'wrong' to bring it up rather than the one in indulgence or excess is wrong. Just an observation. :)
 
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The secular media covering a religious event. Huh let me see they are anti God anti Christ. Anti church. Anti you but you can't help but love them even though you are God's and they hate you.

P.s. this is for everyone. not just op

It is true that the national media hasn't always been the best friend of the church...

...but does that mean the truths that were uncovered in this article are not true? Truths such as Matt Crouch recieving 32 Million dollars of untaxed money from Dad - donated from TBN viewers who believed the money to be going towards keeping the network running.

I'll have to be a little honest here.

1) The reaction to this news is very alarming to me on so many levels. The best defense that can be offered is that it's the national media so it means nothing? What would it take for you to see the truth?

[FONT=&quot]2) Think about the scrutiny that most politicians are under for gifts in the thousands of dollars. If they get caught, they can go to jail, like her in my state where a number of state representatives went to jail over amounts such as $50,000 being used wrongly. Should not the same standard apply to this guy, despite him being a religious icon?

This to me is far more scandalous and sick.

I'd be very interested to hear what Jim Baker thinks about this.

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I remeber God using Dianne Sawyer to let the body of Christ know about Bob Tilton.

The media may or may not have a bias concerning a specific story.

God didn't have to use diane sawyer to let the body of Christ know about him,:eek: God had already exposed him to a whole lot of folks way before with his fake tongues and comedy. and, even though he was on her show, there are still some people who follow him.
the Holy Ghost does not need the media's help to expose anybody because He is the revealer of what needs to be seen.
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...but does that mean the truths that were uncovered in this article are not true? Truths such as Matt Crouch recieving 32 Million dollars of untaxed money from Dad - donated from TBN viewers who believed the money to be going towards keeping the network running.

Do we know that is is 'untruth'? I can go on the internet and find anything I want to support whatever comes to mind. Is there proof that the money was used wrongly? Instead of indulging in gossip..write them and ask for an accounting of their money! NOW there is a concept.
 
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It is true that the national media hasn't always been the best friend of the church...

...but does that mean the truths that were uncovered in this article are not true? Truths such as Matt Crouch recieving 32 Million dollars of untaxed money from Dad - donated from TBN viewers who believed the money to be going towards keeping the network running.

I'll have to be a little honest here.

1) The reaction to this news is very alarming to me on so many levels. The best defense that can be offered is that it's the national media so it means nothing? What would it take for you to see the truth?

[FONT=&quot]2) Think about the scrutiny that most politicians are under for gifts in the thousands of dollars. If they get caught, they can go to jail, like her in my state where a number of state representatives went to jail over amounts such as $50,000 being used wrongly. Should not the same standard apply to this guy, despite him being a religious icon?

[FONT=&quot]This to me is far more scandalous and sick.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I'd be very interested to hear what Jim Baker thinks about this. [/FONT]
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Truths you know for a fact that these are truths. You can actually take this to court and prove it.

Oh come on Ok I'l join the media tells the truth the media never lies. Popycock. I'll let ya in on a truth that can be found in the bible. Stop the gossiping stop the backbiting stop the judgeing because I for one would not want to hear God say 'depart from me I never knew you'. I want to makesure I am right and God worry about these people that I won't even meet. Folks clean up your own back yard and leave everyone elses alone.
Mat 7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
 
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NOW, Jim Bakker...there is a man that has repented and is really living for God now. Sometimes it takes being totally broken to be used like Jim is now. I take my hat off to him. BUT like Furry said..unless YOU can prove your aligations in court...be very careful!
 
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NOW, Jim Bakker...there is a man that has repented and is really living for God now. Sometimes it takes being totally broken to be used like Jim is now. I take my hat off to him. BUT like Furry said..unless YOU can prove your aligations in court...be very careful!
I agree, Jim Bakker is laudable.

What does being able to prove something in court have to do with anything?
 
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I agree, Jim Bakker is laudable.

What does being able to prove something in court have to do with anything?
darlin'..like I have said before..you can go on the net and find anything you want to support whatever you want...my point in the court being...that would that person take his allegations to court? IF not..because he is showing 'here say'...then..guess what?? STOP GOSSIPING!
 
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darlin'..like I have said before..you can go on the net and find anything you want to support whatever you want...my point in the court being...that would that person take his allegations to court? IF not..because he is showing 'here say'...then..guess what?? STOP GOSSIPING!
Well you can't just find anything on the Internet, and I think most of us are adult enough to disregard baseless claims. But let's face it, sometimes you need to call sin what it is, regardless of who is doing it.
 
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Well you can't just find anything on the Internet, and I think most of us are adult enough to disregard baseless claims. But let's face it, sometimes you need to call sin what it is, regardless of who is doing it.
agree...call sin sin...sitting here gossiping and slandering a ministry or whatever is sin. AND yes, You can find whatever you want on the net...google things..whatever it is you want to find...you will find it.

PS...as for most of us disregarding stuff?? I SHOULD hope we are adult enough to do it..but look at the pages here..full of us NOT doing it!! Seems ironic doesn't it?
 
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agree...call sin sin...sitting here gossiping and slandering a ministry or whatever is sin. AND yes, You can find whatever you want on the net...google things..whatever it is you want to find...you will find it.

PS...as for most of us disregarding stuff?? I SHOULD hope we are adult enough to do it..but look at the pages here..full of us NOT doing it!! Seems ironic doesn't it?
well some people have a huge problem with people that get Bentleys from the donation of people thinking they are giving to help people.
 
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well some people have a huge problem with people that get Bentleys from the donation of people thinking they are giving to help people.
BUT, has that been proven???? NO...you read an article on line...and there is NO proof..so once again...gossip.
 
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What?!?!?!! You mean there's life beyond the internet????

^_^ ^_^ ^_^


Please do not take this post seriously. This post does not necessarily reflect the views of the poster nor the poster's affiliates.

Did you know that I heard the internet was alive? Really! It was on Diane Sawyer's program. :eek: ;)
 
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BUT, has that been proven???? NO...you read an article on line...and there is NO proof..so once again...gossip.
oh, there is plenty of proof, they are called tax records, and besides he should shun any appearance of evil. He is not my problem, but I won't give to TBN, and if anyone asked me, I would tell them to not give to TBN.
 
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oh, there is plenty of proof, they are called tax records, and besides he should shun any appearance of evil. He is not my problem, but I won't give to TBN, and if anyone asked me, I would tell them to not give to TBN.
and you have seen these tax papers??? I don't recall anyone asking you to give to TBN...and you can tell people whatever you want! I hope you would spread the gospel as much as you are spreading gossip!
 
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