woe is me - hubby and I can't have children, so I can be of no use in the Kingdom of God!
WRONG!
I realize that I will be ignored by some of the very people I'm trying to reach here because I'm a woman - but hey, at least I'm not a dishonest woman who would put up a genderless sock-puppet just so someone might pay attention to what I say....... to whoever has ears to hear:
For you are ALL SONS of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (cf Gal.3)
That's right, I am a SON OF GOD in Christ - in whom there is neither male nor female.
The daughters of Zelophehad speak what is right; you shall surely give them a possession of inheritance among their father's brothers, and cause the inheritance of their father to pass to them. (Numbers 27:7)
Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
This scripture is not speaking of women as opposed to men - I do believe that men and children should also - when learning - learn "in silence and with all submission" - it is speaking about how one should learn -and evidently there was a problem in Timothy's parish with women not following this protocol - women with arrogance problems. We are all - male and female - given great liberty in Christ, but neither men nor women should use their liberty as an occasion to the prideful flesh, but rather by love serve one another (Galatians 5:13).
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK this verse might well have read "And I do not permit a wife to teach or to have authority over her husband, in order that she might live a quiet, undisturbed, peaceable life." Most women know that the reason a wife can't teach her husband is because he won't listen. And it is a wise wife who knows that it is not a good idea for her husband to not seek advice from others outside the home - this makes the marriage a stagnant pool - nothing flowing in to refresh and invigorate......
For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
Adam was not deceived - he made the decision to sin in the full light of knowledge that it was sin - just to please his wife. It is a wise wife who knows that her advice to hubby may be self-serving, even if she doesn't realize it, for the heart (of a woman or of a man) is deceptive above all things. Better to seek the counsel of a party without so much of a vested interest..... because the husband, in the interest of pleasing his wife, is liable to do something he knows is wrong, just as Adam did.
Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they (the man and the wife?) continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
The curse for Eve that came as a result of her fall into transgression is pain in childbearing. I believe that this is what this verse is talking about - Jesus came to set us free from the curse of sin, and this verse seems to me to be a promise that women have available to them the promise of pain-free labour. (of course, this promise, like all the promises of God, must be apprehended, and this is a completely separate subject from the one the OP was trying to address, so let's not get too far offtrack - suffice it to say that the "saved in childbearing" clause has nothing to do with whether women may teach or not)
I certainly hope this clears it up for at least SOME people......
many blessings, all around, whether you agree with me or not.......
tal