In the Beginning...

[Martin Luther]

Genesis, controverisal, debated the world over. Did God create everyting in six literal days, or is each day an unspecified length of time.

Did God start the whole thing..with the Big Bang, and then let everything evolve on its own evolutionary path, or is it to be taken literally.

Tough call?

Weigh in..and give us your comments?

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Martin Luther
Genesis, controverisal, debated the world over. Did God create everyting in six literal days, or is each day an unspecified length of time.

Did God start the whole thing..with the Big Bang, and then let everything evolve on its own evolutionary path, or is it to be taken literally.

Tough call?

Weigh in..and give us your comments?

In the U.S., there's a fairly large number of people who feel that it's a literal story. Very few elsewhere do; I suspect this is because of differing religious traditions.

I've always assumed that God created the universe in some unspecified way, and that we are welcome to try to figure it out from the observations we can make, but we'll never know everything.

 

[Martin Luther]

Originally posted by seebs


In the U.S., there's a fairly large number of people who feel that it's a literal story. Very few elsewhere do; I suspect this is because of differing religious traditions.

I've always assumed that God created the universe in some unspecified way, and that we are welcome to try to figure it out from the observations we can make, but we'll never know everything.

Seebs,

LOLOL..I like your style!! I have read many an answer to that over the years...but yours is the best!!!!
By far and away...!!

 

[ZoneChaos]

I accept any explination as possible that takes into account ad accepts as truth the entirety of scripture and the proof evidence of natural Science.

 

[edgeo]

Originally posted by ZoneChaos
I accept any explination as possible that takes into account ad accepts as truth the entirety of scripture and the proof evidence of natural Science.

I think most christian evolutionists feel this way.

 

[elephanticity]

accepts as truth the entirety of scripture

Do you mean a literal interpretation of scripture, or if we can take it as parable, and glean the basic truths behind the story as posted?

Personally, I doubt the creator lied. If the science works now, i believe it always worked. Evidence is not there to 'give us the lie' as much as to stretch our understanding.

 

[ZoneChaos]

Do you mean a literal interpretation of scripture,

Literal, of coarse, I have no reason to beleive the account of creation is a parable...

 

[elephanticity]

Originally posted by ZoneChaos


Literal, of coarse, I have no reason to beleive the account of creation is a parable...

Of course.

SO by natural Science you mean ....?

 

[Billy the Kid]

God does not lie
I stick to this. If God said he created the Universe in 6 days, then he created it in 6 days. Besides I have a hard time trying to understand Evolution.

 

[mac_philo]

So you're saying that the easier something is, the more likely it is to be right?

In any case, it would hardly be a 'lie' to refer to a long period of time as 'six days.' Day has no meaning outside of the context of the earth and sun, which didn't exist at genesis.

 

[Billy the Kid]

So you're saying that the easier something is, the more likely it is to be right?
No, I'm not. I just don't believe in Evolution.

In any case, it would hardly be a 'lie' to refer to a long period of time as 'six days.' Day has no meaning outside of the context of the earth and sun, which didn't exist at genesis.
Creation took place in six literal days. (Gen 1, Ex 20:11) The Hebrew word for day, yom, always means a literal day when it is modified by a number (such as the 6th day). Yom was defined as a literal day when it was first used. (Gen 1:4,5) Each creation day had only one “evening and morning.” To deny a 6-day creation is to reject the 7th day, which God sanctified and blessed. (Deut 5:12)taken from creationscience.com

 

[mac_philo]

Those are all assertions, with no arguments based on linguistic facts to support them.

It's hard to imagine that it makes any difference whether god performed a miracle in 6 days, or over millions of years, but I guess it does.

 

[Martin Luther]

Originally posted by mac_philo


It's hard to imagine that it makes any difference whether god performed a miracle in 6 days, or over millions of years, but I guess it does.

Mac,

In reading this, I reflected how true. The point is was there a source of power with a definable personality, an entity that we call God who started the whole thing..for whatever purpose.

 

[Cyclo Rider]

Originally posted by ZoneChaos
Literal, of coarse, I have no reason to beleive the account of creation is a parable...

It's not a parable.

Genesis tells the truth it as it happened. Six literal days. Humans have always been human since the day God created Adam from the dust of the Earth. Pure and simple. If you don't believe Genesis in the eyes of God, you might as well not believe in the resurrection of Christ. I've examined both sides for years and know that Genesis is the truth! It's also the most logical.

Even the first Chinese migrants to the land we call China knew the Genesis creation account to be true, which makes sense since they were only about two thousand years removed from it and a couple hundred years removed from the worldwide flood! And remember how long people lived in the pre-flood years.

 

[Josh]

Genesis tells the truth it as it happened.

It certainly does. Just like the rest of the Bible, also.

 

[Cyclo Rider]

Originally posted by 30a2
I just don't believe in Evolution.

With good reason. You shouldn't.

Take care.

 

[Caedmon]

Hey, haven't y'all ever heard your grandpappy say something like: "Now back in MY day, WE didn't DO all thiserrruuuhhhhfffffrrrrrrr... "?

Now, was grandpappy talking about a literal 24-hour period? I don't think so.

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Cyclo Rider

It's not a parable.

Genesis tells the truth it as it happened. Six literal days. Humans have always been human since the day God created Adam from the dust of the Earth. Pure and simple. If you don't believe Genesis in the eyes of God, you might as well not believe in the resurrection of Christ.

Really? I don't see why. There were a lot more witnesses for the resurrection than there were for creation.

 

[Satoshi]

Originally posted by Cyclo Rider

It's not a parable.

Genesis tells the truth it as it happened. Six literal days. Humans have always been human since the day God created Adam from the dust of the Earth.

I have been myself since I was born. That does not mean that I am not descended from my parents.

Pure and simple. If you don't believe Genesis in the eyes of God, you might as well not believe in the resurrection of Christ. I've examined both sides for years and know that Genesis is the truth!

Where is your evidence? Why do you not publish your amazing conclusion (and your evidence)? Would you not consent to tell us of the evidence that you used to arrive at your conclusion? What I'm getting at, is that I'd really like to hear about the evidence that supports either Genesis 1 or Genesis 2 as literal.

Even the first Chinese migrants to the land we call China knew the Genesis creation account to be true, which makes sense since they were only about two thousand years removed from it and a couple hundred years removed from the worldwide flood! And remember how long people lived in the pre-flood years.

Yet I can't help but think it odd that despite this world-wide flood, we have remarkably little reason to think it even possible, let alone a historical event.

 

[ardipithecus]

Originally posted by seebs


In the U.S., there's a fairly large number of people who feel that it's a literal story. Very few elsewhere do; I suspect this is because of differing religious traditions.

Seebs,

Be careful of absolute pronouncements. The United States undoubtedly by far the largest infection of creationism but it not the only place in the world with this problem. Canada does though that is a trivial example since no country with most of its population within a 100 miles of the U.S. can avoid the U.S.'s influence. Parts of Australia have the problem almost a bad as the U.S. Answers in Genesis was for years an Australian organization though not under that name. And have you ever noticed the time stamps this site gives. www.christianforums.com is hosted down under. After writing the above I verified this with a whois. This site is from Clayton, Victoria. Victoria being in the SE part of the country; the part nearest to the island of Tasmania.
The United Kingdom has scattered creationism that is still capable of making noice though they are a rather small minority there. Where islamic fundamentalism is present there is likely to be creationism as well. The problem is acute in Turkey.

Outside of English speaking and Islamic worlds, creationism is very marginalized and very much extremely small minorities.