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Beauty hidden by creed

Perhaps others have noticed passages in Scripture which have an innate beauty of their own, but overlaid by our later creeds, masking their beauty. I would welcome any entries. (NOTES: (1) I recognize full well the zillion listings of all the bad stuff in Scripture, and anyone is welcome to start their own list of all that. I'd just like to focus on this one category. and (2) Yes, for many the creed laid over this passage is more important and outweighs the clouding of the beauty. Again, be my guest to create a thread. This is not for that.)
I'm starting at the beginning appropriately enough:
#1. "The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters."
Followed by this poetic rhythm. A) And there was evening and there was morning the (first) (second) (third)...day. B) God said, "Let there be.... C) And it was so.
This seven day rhythm, the connecting repetitive phrasing, and the wording that conveys the awe and overwhelming immensity of the universe is such an achingly beautiful poem. I hate that it is a jump start for the argument between evolution and creation. If something reads like poetry, and sounds like poetry and reaches your emotions like poetry, maybe it is poetry.

Two things to pray for on my behalf

First one is that I have a really sore throat. I am usually very healthy and I haven't had one since the days of COVID.

The second thing is that my mom has always had a poor memory, but her memory is getting so bad that I am wondering if she is starting to display the early signs of dementia. She is only 66 years old, I don't think something like this should be happening to her yet. But I have the gift of foresight, and my gut is telling me that her mind is slowly going before my eyes. Its scary to behold to be honest. This is why I hate aging: it destroys people.

Please pray her memory gets better.

Kid Rock Tops Billboard Christian Chart After TPUSA Super Bowl Halftime Performance

“Devil Without a Cause” rap-rocking-country artist Kid Rock just earned his first No. 1 Christian song on the Billboard charts for his rendition of Cody Johnson’s “Til’ You Can’t.”

Kid Rock, whose real name is Robert Ritchie, is known for his unfiltered opinions, “Joe Dirt”-style appearance, and vulgar, though often patriotic, lyrics.

According to Billboard, Kid Rock’s “Til You Can’t” hit the No. 1 spot on Billboard’s Hot Christian Songs chart following his performance of the song at Turning Point USA’s “The All American Halftime Show” during the Super Bowl. The song was released later that night.

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Romans 3:10-11 "..there is none righteous, there is none.." This does not prove total depravity. It does prove total inability [to justify oneself].

Romans 3:10-11 As it is written: "There is none righteous (does good), no, not one; There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.


The immediate context. Vs. 9 "We" Paul is referring to Jews. "Them" is referring to Gentiles. Both Jew and Gentile under the same condition. This is the bigger context also.

Romans 3:10-12, quotes Psalms 14 and Isaiah 53 in general.

Romans 3:13-18 Paul quotes Psalms 14.

Romans 3:23 quotes Isaiah 53:6 and other places Isaiah 53 overall is drawn from by Paul when making his point in Romans.

It's clear that many people 'seek God' who remain lost. It's how honestly one seeks the kingdom of God that separates the ones who find it from the ones who don't. There are many who "seek" to enter and will not be able to.

Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

Read Psalm 14 for context to see what Paul was quoting in Romans 3.

Psalm 14:1-7 To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge, Who eat up my people as they eat bread, And do not call on the Lord? There they are in great fear, For God is with the generation of the righteous. You shame the counsel of the poor, But the Lord is his refuge. Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion! When the Lord brings back the captivity of His people, Let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad.

How does one 'become corrupt' and 'turn aside' who was born that way already? Why does David say "the fool has said in his heart"? Why not 'all men have said in their heart...'? All these conditions and problems are qualified with "workers of iniquity" and basically Gentiles for the most part. This is how the Jews of that time would have understood it. It's not a Jewish problem, it's a Gentile problem.

It's clear that there is a possibility of righteousness within that same context, as God is near, or with them. "For God is with the generation of the righteous." That would be the Jews, how they seen themselves in that passage.

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Interesting that Augustine interpreted " There is none who does good, No, not one" The "not one" as "except One", speaking of Jesus, which really fits the context of justification that Paul was pushing in Romans when he quoted it. Isaiah 53 and the surrounding context of Romans is clearly about that very same thing, Jesus being the justifier because he alone is righteous [by God's standards].

John Owen qualifies vs. 2-3 in chapter 3 with "all fools" from vs. 1. Practical atheists who persecute God.

Good article. Both Augustine and Owens quoted from this source.
Does Psalm 14 Apply to All of Humanity?
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Romans 3:21-24 Since nobody can be justified by the works of the Law, Paul then offers the 'good news' of righteousness by faith for all those who believe.

The context is justification. Man lacks the moral ability to be righteous. To be declared righteous. To be justified by the Law. That's the way Paul was using it. Paul quotes Psalm 14 to show that both Jews and Gentiles are under sin. His main point in saying that was that the Jews and Gentiles alike are in the same spiritual predicament. Paul makes it abundantly clear in Romans 3 and beyond that it's not a Gentile problem, but a "Jew and Gentile" problem.

To sum up Paul's point, vs. 23 of chapter 3 does a nice job of it.

23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," (Both Jew and Gentile ....) see vs 24-31 and into chapter 4 as the flow continues, using Abraham as an example [Who was imputed with Christ's righteousness].

See how the message is consistent if we understand that what is being emphasized is that man cannot justify himself? Why? Because there is none righteous, none that does good (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19-John 15:5).

The context is justification and the ability to do good by righteous standards and justify ones self.

So why does Paul add "There is none who seeks after God." to His quote from the OT?

It would seem to be an odd thing to say if we take it at face value since Isaiah said this.

Isaiah 55:6 Seek the Lord while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near. And other places Psalm 9:10, 22:46, 40:16, 1 Chronicles 28:9, Hosea 10:12, etc.

Paul adds "there is none who seeks after God" in Romans 3 for a reason when quoting Psalms, that reason is up for debate, but taking that statement literally and defining it on an island doesn't fit with the rest of Scripture. Since Psalms 14 and Isaiah 53 lays that definition on the Gentiles (Isaiah 53:4,6.). Paul was making clear that it's just as much a problem for Jews as it is for Gentiles.

Remember that even Peter said to be careful when examining Paul's letters and not to read into them any false ideas.

2 Peter 3:15-16 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation--as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
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Vanderbilt ceases some adult gender surgeries due to 'lack of coverage,' other issues

After pausing sex-change surgeries for minors in 2022, Vanderbilt University Medical Center will stop offering certain forms of so-called “gender-affirming care” for adults, but some life-altering interventions for individuals suffering from gender dysphoria will continue.

In a Tuesday statement provided to The Christian Post, a spokesperson for the Nashville-based VUMC confirmed that it will cease providing “gender-affirming plastic surgeries for adults” due to “operational limitations and lack of surgical coverage.”

“Vanderbilt Health continues to provide nonsurgical gender-affirming care for adults 19 years and older,” the spokesperson stated. “Vanderbilt Health does not provide any gender-affirming care for patients younger than 19.”

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Pray that Bill Gates finds Salvation in Jesus Christ, and the Joy of Repentance, and being Forgiven through Jesus Christ as he faces Epstein scandals

Pray that Bill Gates finds Salvation in Jesus Christ, and the Joy of Repentance, and being Forgiven through Jesus Christ as he faces Epstein scandals:

Open Doors- The brothers and sisters in Christ March/April 2026

PLEASE NOTE: For some bizarre reason a unrelated video has attached itself to my post, please ignore as I have no clue what is going on.

Ariana

We go to Afghanistan- Ariana fell in love with a young man, Bashir, from her village, by God's providence her aunt discovered the love letter and the secret was out, to stop the scandal, Ariana's family married her to Bashir's.

Ariana's brother in law was killed by a grenade thrown into a house at 2 AM, Ariana then fled the country with her husband Bashir and his family.

In a country in Central Asia, Bashir and his family revealed to Ariana they were Christians, that is why her brother in law had been killed. The family invited Ariana to church and she believed on Christ, the aunt discovering the love letter was truly God's providence!

Like other Afghan refugees Ariana faces the threat of being deported, so please pray this does not happen and pray that her serving of other Afghan refugees bares much fruit and she is an encouragement to her local church and other Afghan believers.

Ernesto

Ernesto from Nigeria never experienced persecution, but that changed when extremists raided his home.

Ernesto tried to flee the gunfire but was caught and was made to carry heavy weights of loot, he soon gave in and collapsed, the extremists tried to make Ernesto pray non Christian prayers but Ernesto refused and they found out he was a Christian.

They pulled a knife on Ernesto and began to torture him but he refused to recant his faith, the extremists then brought out a hammer and nails, they set a stake to a tree, they then used nails and wires to tie up Ernesto and they set him on fire.

When the extremists departed, a couple extinguished the fire and saved Ernesto, he was taken to hospital.

He was initially paralysed but made a recovery after his bills were paid by an Open Doors partner. Amazingly, Ernesto looks to his persecutors with love. May we grow to have his attitude.

Zaira

Zaira from Central Asia went through the tragic loss of her father, from his loss God used it in Zaira finding a secret collection of his Christian books, she soon read them and believed on Christ.

When Zaira's family found she was having fellowship with other Christians they began to beat her and throw her books in the fire, despite this Zaira continued having fellowship with other Christians.

Through Zaira's faith, many others in her family, including those who beat her, believed on Christ, including her mother in law, the person she felt was least likely to come to Christ.

Thoughts

What a great example of God's saving grace and God's grace in all these believers.

Never forget if you are a Christian, Christians from across the world are as much your family as other blood relatives- Matthew 12:50 Ephesians 2:19

I found pebbles when I was a kid (but they were not ordinary rocks)

One of the hobbies I had when I was a kid was something called Rockhounding. This is the definition of that word:

"Rockhounding is the popular recreational hobby of searching for and collecting rocks, minerals, gemstones, and fossils from their natural environment."

My family and I lived in Washington State for a total of 21 years. During the time we were there, I think I was 9 at the time and and I would go outside searching for colorful pebbles. The area we lived in was actually a hotbed for gemstones. I could go right outside my house and out to the side of the road and pick around in the dirt and find what looked like pebbles of Carnelian and what looked like Obsidian. I actually formed a collection of all the gemstones I found in the places around my house.

But then when we moved back to Vancouver I lost my collection! Darn it.

This is what carnelian looks like:


This is what Obsidian looks like:


Washington State is actually a hotbed for different kinds of gemstones. They can be found in various locations around the State. Not just in the area my family and I were living in at the time.

Are You Without Wedding Clothes?

I am reading in Matthew 21:23-46 and in Matthew 22:1-14, some of which I will quote, and some of which I will summarize for the sake of brevity.

In Context

Jesus was teaching in the Temple, and he was being questioned by the chief priests and the elders, and then he began speaking to them in parables. And then he said, “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people, producing the fruit of it.” (Here, I believe, “a people” is speaking of the Gentiles and all who believe in Jesus Christ.) And “When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking about them.” (see Matthew 21:23-46).

So, please consider Jesus’ words here. He was telling the Jews, who had been the people of God, that the kingdom of God would soon be taken away from all who did not believe in Jesus Christ, and it would be given to all who did believe in Jesus Christ, which mainly were the Gentiles. For the promise of God to Abraham was to him and to his seed Jesus Christ. And from that point forward God’s people are now all who follow Jesus Christ with their lives. And all Jews, not believing in Christ, were cast out of God’s kingdom.

[Genesis 17:7-9; Genesis 18:19; John 8:18-19,38-47; Romans 2:28-29; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 9:4-8,25-28; Romans 11:1-36; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 3:16,26-29; Galatians 4:22-31; Ephesians 2:11-22; Ephesians 3:1-6; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-16; Hebrews 8:6-13; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 2:22; Jude 1:5; Revelation 2:9; Revelation 3:9]

“But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, and he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?’ And the man was speechless. Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ For many are called, but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:11-14 NASB1995)

What were the messages being given in all of the parables in Matthew, chapters 21-22, i.e. the messages the Jews understood were directed at them, but which can be applied to all of us? One of the messages has to do with us putting our professions of faith into action, i.e. us practicing what we profess with our mouths and not giving lip service only to God. Another is about being faithful with what we have been given, and us not ignoring our Lord, and his call, and his purposes, and his commands for us to obey.

Then there is the warning to us that if we do not act upon what we have been given, that the kingdom of God will be taken away from all who profess faith in God, in Christ Jesus, with their lips, but who do not obey him and his commands. And it will be given to all who will, by God-gifted and God-persuaded faith in Jesus Christ, die with Christ to sin, and walk with the Lord in faithfulness, in surrender, and in obedience to his commands. For many are called, but few are chosen, for the chosen are those who obey God.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:1-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Jerusalem

An Original Work / May 2, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

…you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God… Hebrews 12:22


Jerusalem, Jerusalem, hear now your King of kings.
He speaks to you, Jerusalem, in all His majesty.
Oh, listen now, Jerusalem, He’s calling out to you.
Hear Him call you, Jerusalem; He’s waiting now for you.
Won’t you bow down, Jerusalem? Let Christ make you anew!

Jerusalem, Jerusalem, hear God’s call to obey
Your Lord and Savior, Christ the King; trust Him without delay.
Turn from your sin, Jerusalem; let Christ rule in your hearts.
Invite Him now, Jerusalem, to save you; grace impart,
And purify, Jerusalem, your hearts of all your sin!

Jerusalem, Jerusalem, hear your God’s final plea
To come to Him, Jerusalem, right now on bended knee.
Make Him your Lord, Jerusalem; He’s your Messiah, King.
Honor Him as the Holy One, your off’rings to Him bring.
And serve Him now, Jerusalem, for He is Christ your King!

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Are You Without Wedding Clothes?
An Original Work / February 25, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Tennessee woman says hospital canceled her sterilization surgery while admitted to hospital

I don't see her age mentioned...



Decision came from ethics committee, the woman says
The woman said she was admitted, spoke with the surgical team, and had an IV placed before waiting approximately three hours with no update. She said a group of nurses then informed her the procedure would not proceed.

“The hospital wasn’t going to allow them to go through with it, because they had concerns about the implications of sterilizing a woman so young,” she said.

She said she was told the decision came from the hospital’s Catholic Ethics Oversight Committee and that the committee cited a “duty to protect her sacred fertility.”

The woman told WSMV her reasons for pursuing sterilization included a history of assault, previous issues with other forms of birth control, and concerns about living in a state without abortion access.

SOTU erupts as Al Green is escorted out over anti-Trump sign

The State of the Union quickly got physical on Tuesday, when Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) mounted yet another protest from inside the House chamber that prompted multiple Republicans to confront him.
Why it matters: The demonstration resulted in Green getting escorted out of the House chamber, the second time in as many years he has been ejected from a Trump speech to Congress.




  • Green notoriously heckled Trump relentlessly at the start of his 2025 speech to a joint session of Congress, which was rocked by Democratic heckling and walkouts throughout.
  • House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries(D-N.Y.) had repeatedly urged his members in the run-up to the speech to maintain decorum, with lawmakers specifically instructed not to bring signs.
What happened: As Trump entered the chamber, Green held up a sign reading "BLACK PEOPLE AREN'T APES!" and remained standing as Trump began his speech.
  • Numerous Republican lawmakers walked over to Green to confront him verbally, with Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) attempting to snatch the sign out of his hand.
  • House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) also attempted to pull the sign down.
Mullin and Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) then tried to block Trump's view of Green, who was eventually escorted out by a House sergeant-at-arms staffer.

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Western world 2070 a muslim state?

Shalom! The Muslims have an agenda to Islamize the Western world by 2070. Are you aware of this?

Please pray with me Ps 33:10 that the Lord will break this plan in Jesus name and that people will come to know the true Jesus Christ, the Son of God and Savior of the world in Jesu name!?

Please also bring this up in your community and in your church and continue to pray for it.

God bless you!!!
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Doctrinal Differences in Different Denominations

Maybe I am slow, but I am only just now noticing this.

Since there are differences in beliefs among denominations, it only stands then that someone, somewhere is preaching heresy. And I am wondering who exactly.

I am an Independent Baptist, but I am not above saying that there may be heretical teachings in my denomination that I was unaware of until now. I'm kind of wondering what they are.

For instance, in my church it is taught to us that drinking all alcohol is bad and is not allowed, whereas the Catholics think it is OK as long as you don't get drunk. These teachings directly oppose each other and cancel each other out. One of us has to be wrong, and I don't know who it is.

Because I was raised Independent Baptist I have never tasted alcohol. Or smoked, or even cussed. And I have also never committed a single crime. I guess my upbringing was strict.

I would like to know about some more differences in teachings among denominations if you have that information.

Now I am wondering what the Lutherans believe.
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Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands (MYRIADS) of his saints to execute judgment upon all...

Peace in Christ.

In Christ, all shall be made alive.

1Co 15:22-26
(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Every man in his own “order”….that is, troop.

Christ the firstfruit is the 144,000 troop. The are the Christians who will hear His words and believe. They will stand with the Lamb. They are the “few” who will find His life now in this mortal body. They will manifest His life in their mortal flesh. 2nd Corinthians 4:10-11 . They manifest the Son of man to the people of the outside world who will then “see” Him through the 144,000.

The second troop are the people of the outside world (the “great multitude”…the “cloud” of His eyewitness) who are His at His “coming”…that is, PRESENCE. Greek: “Parousia” = PRESENCE. They will SEE Him be manifest through the 144,000 and will believe.

(23) But every man in his own order (TROOP, set): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming (PRESENCE).

Both “troops” receive an age-lasting life (aka “eternal life”) and will help Him put down all rule and all authority and power in the duration of this age.

When all things are made subject to Him, then comes the end….the end of this age.

(24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
(25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

This is when the Christians who had previously mortally died (because they were led astray by false prophets) are then resurrected at the “last trump.” They are the “multitude” of Christians who went down the broad way to their mortal destruction…being led down by false prophets whom they listened to and followed. They will have missed out on putting down all rule and all authority and power as they did not receive an age-lasting life but perished because of serving the sin rather than dying to it.

(26) The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

The dead in Christ…the Christians that mortally perished…. shall be raised AT the last day.

The living who were made alive in Christ in their mortal bodies NOW shall have continued to live TO the last day where then they will be “changed” from mortal (not having died) to immortal. They will have had an age-lasting life that kept them alive until that “twinkling of an eye” moment….never seeing death at all. They will have completely circumvented death in Christ having never mortally perished. They will have participated in the "first resurrection."

1Co 15:51-54 KJV
(51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
(52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
(53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

(54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

The first troop is the 144,000 who will be redeemed from among men…from among the man-based churches. They are Christ the firstfruits…the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. They come out from among the man-based churches. They are not defiled with “women”…the man-based churches that they are not “married” to any longer. They follow the Lamb out of them….following Him wherever He goes. They show that they love the Father as they go to Him outside the man-based churches.

The unbelievers among the man-based churches will also hear the Word of Truth but will not believe as they will stay put in them. They will not receive the love of the Truth and be saved. They will not be delivered from among the man-based churches as they will not believe in what they hear the Spirit of Truth saying to them.

The 144,000 = Christ the firstfruits = the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Rev 14:4 KJV
(4) These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

The 144,000 will HEAR Him and believe. They will hear the Word of Truth and will believe and will be sealed with the Holy Spirit of the promise (the promise of His presence to be made manifest through them).

They are the FIRST who trust in Christ ….Christ the firstfruits…as they will hear His words preached to them….the Word of Truth…and will believe and will be SEALED with that Holy Spirit of the promise.

We are to be the praise of His glory….as the people of the outside world will “see” Him through us, the 144,000, and will believe and praise God above.

Eph 1:12-14
(12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

(13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

The “purchased possession”…that is, the acquisition…are the people of the outside world who are His at His “coming”…that is, presence that the 144,000 manifest to them. Those people of the outside world who will "see" Him and believe will then praise God above for His manifest glory that we shine to them.

(14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession (acquisition), unto the praise of his glory.

Christ the firstfruit is the 144,000 will be those who are “SEALED” with the Holy Sprit of the promise after they HEAR the Word of Truth and believe.

Rev 7:1-4 KJV
(1) And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

They will hear and believe....and the light (the "east') rises within their hearts.

(2) And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
(3) Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

John HEARD the number of the 144,000 as they will HEAR and believe and be sealed.

(4) And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

The second troop are those who are His at His PRESENCE. They are the “great multitude”. His presence is made manifest through the 144,000 who will stand with the Lamb.

The manifesting of His presence through the 144,000 is the revealing of the Son of man to the people of the outside world. The Son of man comes upon a “cloud”….a great multitude of eye witnesses of His manifest presence….His glory that will shine to them from the 144,000.

They are a “cloud” of people…a great multitude which no man could number of all nation and kindreds and people and tongues. They stand “before”….that is, the face of …the Lamb. We, the 144,000, reflect the Lamb to them. We with “open face” manifest Him to them.

John SAW ( "I beheld and lo") the "great multitude" which no man could number. This is the "cloud" of people that the Son of man (the 144,000 with the Lamb) comes upon.

Rev 7:9-13
(9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before (in the FACE of)the throne, and before (in the FACE of) the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

We, the 144,000, are to be to the praise of His glory. Those among the people of this world who are His at His presence will “see” Him through us and will then praise God. They will "see" His face through us. the 144,000.

The kingdom/government of God is within us...the 144,000. The believing people of the outside world are the "angels"...that is, the MESSENGERS of His glory in this world. We have a heavenly scene here to be played out in this world.

(10) And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
(11) And all the angels (MESSENGERS) stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
(12) Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.


This is a "cloud" of people arrayed in white robes. Who are these people and were do they come?

(13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

Who are these that "fly as a cloud"? They fly as doves to their windows. The "windows" are their eyes who will behold Him by looking at us, the ,144,000. They will "see" His glory through us. Our God will glorify us.

Isa 60:8-9 KJV
(8) Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

(9) Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.

Who are these people? they are the "great multitude" of the people of the outside world who will see His glory upon us the 144,000. They will "see" and believe and come to us...flying as a "cloud"...a great multitude of eyewitnesses.

Isa 60:2-4 KJV
(2) For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

(3) And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
(4) Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.

The 144,000 are the "sanctified ones". The "great multitude" are the "mighty ones" who will REJOICE in His highness as they will "see" His glory shine through the 144,000.

Isa 13:3-8 KJV
(3) I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.

A great multitude....a great people (as kings shall come to us).... will come to the 144,000 who stand with the Lamb. They come to judge the world.

(4) The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
(5) They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
(6) Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
(7) Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:

(8) And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

the 144,000 stand with the Lamb....and a "great multitude" of the people of the outside world will come to Him. They are His at His presence of which the 144,000 shine to them. The Lord comes with "ten thousands"...that is, MYRIADS...of His saints... to execute judgment UPON ALL. He comes upon the "clouds"..the myriads of people who will be His at His presence.

Jud 1:14-15 KJV
(14) And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands (MYRIADS) of his saints,

(15) To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Bishop Schneider urges Pope Leo to approve SSPX consecrations

If the SSPX is "completely cut off" then the fault would be "primarily with the Holy See," Bishop Schneider wrote.​


VATICAN CITY (PerMariam) — The Holy See’s former Apostolic Visitor to the Society of Saint Pius X has urged Pope Leo to grant his approval to the planned episcopal consecrations, arguing that failure to do so would leave the Holy See largely responsible if the Society were “cut off.”

“Most Holy Father, grant the Apostolic Mandate for the episcopal consecrations of the SSPX.” Such was the February 24 plea of Bishop Athanasius Schneider – the prominent auxiliary of Astana in Kazakhstan.

Schneider is known for his vocal defenses of Church doctrine, but in the case of the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) he is much more than a mere interested bishop: he was the official Apostolic Visitor to the SSPX in 2015, acting on behalf of the Holy See, and hence has unique and rare insight into the relations between the SSPX and the Vatican.

He urged Leo to “stand aside from the partisanship of others and, with a great paternal and truly Augustinian spirit, demonstrate that you are building bridges, as you promised to do before the whole world when you gave your first blessing after your election.”

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‘We’re Baby Christians’—Jelly Roll’s Wife, Alisa DeFord, Explains Why She and Her Husband Are ‘Not Role Models’

Podcaster, influencer, and former OnlyFans star Alisa DeFord—better known as Bunnie XO and the wife of “Hard Fought Hallelujah” musician Jelly Roll—told “TODAY” hosts that she and her husband are “baby Christians.”

Jelly Roll, 41, whose real name is Jason DeFord, married DeFord, 46, in 2016.

While promoting her new memoir on “TODAY,” DeFord discussed her marriage and her husband’s Grammy Awards acceptance speech that went viral.

During the speech, Jelly Roll praised God and told people that “Jesus is for everybody.” Jelly Roll also credited his wife with saving his life.

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Mexican cartel kingpin 'El Mencho’ terrorized church leaders, forced over 100 churches to close

Pastors faced threats to their families, extortion demands

The drug cartel leader killed in Jalisco state on Sunday was responsible for the forced closure of more than 100 churches due to threats and extortion demands.

The Mexican military operation in Tapalpa, Jalisco, wounded Rubén Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes, “El Mencho,” leader of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG), who later died while being transported for medical care. The military operation resulted in the deaths of 30 members of the cartel and 70 arrests in seven states and took the lives of at least 25 members of Mexico's military forces.

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Nicki Minaj, Cornel West blast Newsom for trying to relate to black people by sharing low SAT score

Rapper Nicki Minaj, who has emerged as an outspoken supporter of President Donald Trump in recent months, is slamming California’s Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom for attempting to relate to black people by pointing to his low SAT score. Critics on both sides of the political aisle have panned his attempt to relate to the important political demographic ahead of the 2028 presidential election.

Video footage of California’s Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, a2028 presidential hopeful, speaking to black leaders in Georgia over the weekend has drawn intense backlash from conservatives, including Minaj. In his remarks, Newsom told the crowd, “I’m not trying to impress you. I’m just trying to impress upon you [that] I’m like you. I’m no better than you. I’m a 960 SAT guy.”

Newsom insisted that he was “not trying to act all there” and significantly smarter than the crowd, suggesting that many of them may have had SAT scores of 940. He also boasted that “You’ve never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech.”

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It's undeniable: God is judging and cleansing His Church amid scandals We must make peace with the process

An undeniably significant cleansing and correction is presently occurring in the Body of Christ, particularly in the charismatic world, but it is across several denominations and ministries.

And if indeed this is of God, as I believe it is, we must make peace with the process.

Many people, myself included, have wrestled with questions and misgivings about this season of exposure in the Church, as podcasters and others take to social media to make claims (some providing more receipts and proof than others, to be sure) to shed further light.

The prophet in me wants to call for justice and accountability, regardless of who is involved. The pastor in me grieves the loss of credibility among church leaders and the toll it is taking on the collective Church. As one who is committed to following biblical protocols that are free of partiality, it’s important to seek to have God’s heart that is both merciful and just, and that we also don’t get in His way.

Last year, while praying about these ongoing exposures, I sensed the Holy Spirit speak to me, “get your hand off the cart,” a reference to 2 Samuel 6:5-11, and an admonition to stop trying to help God. That passage recounts how Uzzah put his hand on the ark of God’s Presence to keep it from falling off the cart, and he was struck dead on the spot. Upon first reading, it seems like a cruel and heartless punishment leveled at someone with good intentions. And yet, God was sending a message, and it’s a needed lesson in our current season.

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Pray that all nations know with Godly fear that (Zec 2:8) Israel is the apple of God's eye as Indian Prime Minister Modi currently visits Israel

Pray that all nations know with Godly fear that (Zec 2:8) Israel is the apple of God's eye as Indian Prime Minister Modi currently visits Israel:

Why do we have 'dark night' of the soul as Christians?

The phrase, “the dark night of the soul,” has been around for over 500 years. It represents a deep season of suffering and confusion when we feel abandoned by God, but the ultimate purpose of the “dark night” is to deepen our spiritual union with Him.

Theologian R.C. Sproul wrote that this darkness is something that “the greatest of Christians have suffered from time to time. It was the malady that provoked David to soak his pillow with tears. It was the malady that earned for Jeremiah the sobriquet, ‘The Weeping Prophet.’”

He clarifies, “This is no ordinary fit of depression, but it is a depression that is linked to a crisis of faith, a crisis that comes when one senses the absence of God or gives rise to a feeling of abandonment by Him.”

Sproul adds, “We ask how a person of faith could experience such spiritual lows, but whatever provokes it does not take away from its reality. Our faith is not a constant action. It is mobile. It vacillates.” And then he concludes with this powerful truth, “We move from faith to faith, and in between we may have periods of doubt when we cry, ‘Lord, I believe, help Thou my unbelief.’”

There must be a turning point

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Ben Sasse is dying. Here's how he sees politics now

Ben Sasse is an accomplished man. He’s a devout Christian and proud husband and father. He has a Ph.D. in history from Yale. He’s served for a decade or more in higher ed and another decade representing Nebraska in the U.S. Senate, where he earned the sometimes-unenviable reputation for not fitting in with any of America’s increasingly polarized camps.

He’s also a dying man.

Back in December, he announced on X that he had pancreatic cancer. As he noted in a recent interview with The Hoover Institution’s Peter Robinson, this is a disease with a 97% mortality rate, and he has a particularly aggressive case. His doctors gave him 90 days; he’s hoping to get a little more time with experimental treatments.

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