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Hi all. I'm new to Christian Forums. I want to be honest with everyone, so I have to say that I was raised in a Welsh Baptist chapel, but now I'm borderline agnostic/atheist at best. I veer wildly between the desire to believe and the general despair of not finding anything proof-worthy enough to personally convince me. Also, there's all the nasty stuff in the Bible that I don't remember ever being mentioned in chapel, but it's definitely there. Also I am drunk at the moment, so in general, I'm sorry for that because I genuinely don't want to upset anyone.

Biden major donor withdraws support


Major Dem Donors Put $90M Pledge On Hold As Long As Biden Remains In Race: Report​


Major Democratic donors have informed Future Forward, which has been a pro-Biden political action committee, that they will freeze $90 million in donations if the president remains in the presidential race, according to The New York Times.

Then there is this:

Simon J. Levien

July 12, 2024, 8:49 p.m. ET
Simon J. Levien
In an email to members, the Movement Voter Project — a political action committee that supports grassroots progressives and Democrats — said it would be joining the chorus of donor groups asking Biden to step aside. The PAC, surveying its grassroots partners, found that 74 percent of its respondents wanted another candidate — a rebuttal of the president’s claim that only “elites” were trying to push him out.
Simon J. Levien


July 12, 2024, 8:50 p.m. ET
Simon J. Levien
The PAC also confirmed it would support Next Generation PAC, which was aiming to raise $100 million for a top-ticket replacement to Biden.

My beloved chicken passed away yesterday

Hello everyone,

Today is a sad day for me,I’m sure those of you who offered prayers for her remember Annie,my beloved Rudd Ranger chicken who was mysteriously sick about a month and a half ago,and by the grace of the Lord he healed her.

Yesterday,I was expecting to come home and have a normal Friday afternoon after work,and as I go to walk out of my chickens pen,
there she was,passed away.

I was shocked and completely flabbergasted.It hurt me she died so suddenly,and she was fine yesterday.

Some tears were shed,and yesterday I dug her a grave behind the coop,next to my other hen,Blue who passed away in May from a medical condition.

I’ve asked the Good Lord for wisdom onto the purpose for this,I by no means am demanding anything from him,I would never do that to him because I love him too much.His will be done.

Something I would like to note as something I find very interesting is that,I have an app on my phone that I read everyday that displays random Bible verses,and todays verse,among every verse in the Bible was this one:

“The righteous cry, and the Lord heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.
The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.”
Psalm 34:17-18
I see this to be a message to me from him today.
May her breath be with the Lord forever
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Terror attacks force denomination to close 70 churches

Terrorist attacks have forced a denomination to close 70 churches in central Nigeria's Plateau state, while in the country's northwest, Christians are celebrating the release of a kidnapped priest.

The Rev. Amos Mohzo, president of the Church of Christ in Nations (COCIN), told Christian Daily International-Morning Star News that attacks by Fulani herdsmen and other terrorists have forced 70 congregations in Plateau state's Mangu and Bokkos counties to stop services in the past two years.

Previous Christmas attacks last December directly affected COCIN congregations, he said.

“Our members were killed, people were killed, people lost their houses, many [were] traumatized and we couldn't do anything," Pastor Mohzo said. "We were stranded, but we had to face the challenge, and Christmas was celebrated by displaced Christians in Internally Displaced People's (IDPs) camps in spite of the tragedy."

In the Mangu area, attacks forced at least 40 COCIN congregations to close, he said.

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Will America endure more political violence after the November election?

I see a potential for violence no matter who wins the presidential election in November. We know the results and consequences after Donald Trump lost the last election. And it seems clear Mr Trump has elevated his rhetoric from mere stochastic threats like "fight like hell" and "it's going to be wild". Now he posts literal pictures of President Biden hogtied in the back of a truck. And he freely admits there won't be violence if he wins, but there could be violence if he loses. So we know Mr Trump endorses anything his minions do on his behalf.

Lately I've been contemplating Donald's last year in office. He had seemingly exacerbated racial tensions to the point of hiding from protesters in the White House bunker. While downplaying the unnecessary covid deaths suffered by Americans. Americans were completely fed up with his hoax of a presidency. If Mr Trump somehow gets elected president again, I feel like it may be unacceptable to a majority of Americans. I think I'm more worried about this scenario than the sore loser Trump fans orchestrating another misguided insurrection. I don't think that maga crowd even considers how detrimental it would be to elect Mr Trump again. And the consequences we might all be forced to endure. Like Trump himself, his fans seem to be all me, me, me. I mean many Trump fans might literally have to learn how to spell Martial this time around. It's not Marshall Law lol. Does anyone have any concerns or thoughts regarding potential political violence in America following this election?


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Blaming Feminist for loss of "men's purpose in life", Congressman Claims U.S. should work its way back to 1960

...or so claims Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) in a House floor speech this past Thursday:

excerpts (a portion of the speach is available on C-Span, emdeded in Raw Story link)

"Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) blamed the "angry feminist movement" for emasculating men and called for the nation to "work our way back" to the 1960s if former President Donald Trump wins reelection.

"Another effect that I don't know was necessarily anticipated by Lyndon Johnson is they kind of took the purpose out of the man's life," the lawmaker said. "Because now you have a basket of goodies for the mom."

"They've taken away the purpose of the man to be part of a family," he continued. "And if we want to get America back to, say, 1960, where this was almost unheard of, we have to fundamentally change these programs."

By Swerving From These

“Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope, to Timothy, my true child in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
“As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine, nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith. The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.” (1 Timothy 1:1-7 ESV)

The “different doctrine” which is of the most critical nature today, with regard to the hope of salvation from sin and eternal life with God, has been named “the cheap grace gospel,” but not that God’s grace is cheap. It is not! But that there are those who have cheapened it by altering and diluting it and making it less offensive to the ungodly and to human flesh. They have, in fact, weakened it to the point to where the sinner can keep on in his deliberate and habitual sin while still claiming heaven as his destiny.

So God, who is the author of the Scriptures, is prohibiting this practice of teaching any different doctrine, but only the one that Jesus taught and that his NT apostles taught, if understood correctly when read in its appropriate context. And it isn’t just that some people are teaching a false doctrine, but that they are being deceptive about it and they are hiding the truth of the gospel in order to lead people astray from the truth and in order to capture them with the lies. And they are rejecting the truth as though it is the lie.

Now the doctrine of Salvation that Jesus taught, and that his NT apostles taught, was that Jesus Christ died on that cross to put our sins to death with him so that by faith in him we will be crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but now as slaves to God and to his righteousness. So we are not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it will lead to death, not to life eternal with God.

[1 Peter 2:24; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Matthew 7:21-23]

But those who are teaching this “different doctrine” are concealing that truth from the people. They are concealing from them that the Scriptures teach our salvation as progressive (the process of sanctification) which will not be complete until Jesus Christ returns and he takes his faithful bride to be with him for eternity. But we will only go to be with him for eternity if we are walking in obedience to his commands in holy living, not necessarily in absolute perfection, and if we are not walking in deliberate and habitual sin.

[Galatians 5:16-21; 1 John 1:5-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

For the gospel of our salvation, which is of God, demands that we deny self, die daily to sin, and walk in obedience to our Lord’s commands. For his commands set boundaries (restrictions, limits) for us for our good so that we don’t indulge in the sinful nature, but so that we put that sinful nature to death, by the Spirit, so that we can walk in the ways of the Lord according to his commandments which are for our good. His commands teach us to cease with lying, immorality, adultery, stealing, and the like, by God’s grace.

[Ephesians 4:17-32; Titus 2:11-14; Luke 9:23-26; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22]

But so many are teaching that faith in Jesus Christ does not require death to sin or walks of obedience to our Lord’s commands or holy living. Or they may teach those things as desired but not required, still leaving the sinner with the impression that he can “believe” in Jesus but keep living in his sin. And this is where many professers of faith in Christ are, seizing the opportunity to give way to the flesh for their own enjoyment but while claiming forgiveness of all sins and heaven as their eternal destiny.

So, they reject God’s commandments, i.e. his controls and his restraints, and they override them by their own decisions to live for the sinful pleasures of the flesh. They may or may not make a surface impression that they are following the Lord with their lives, but their hearts are not surrendered to the Lord, because they are the ones still running their own lives and choosing their own choices and not God’s. And so they assume that just because they professed faith in Jesus that God will overlook their sinful choices. But that is a wrong assumption based on a lie of Satan.

[Romans 2:6-8; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 6:7-8; Ephesians 5:3-6]

Should I Not Preach Jesus

An Original Work / July 4, 2013
Based off 1 Corinthians 9:16-10:13


Woe to me should I not preach Jesus.
I’m compelled to preach the full gospel.
I make myself a slave to ev’ryone
To win their hearts to Christ.
All this I do for my Lord Jesus,
And for the sake of His Name;
Do it for the sake of His gospel,
So that I, its blessings gain.

Scripture notates the sins of others;
Written down for us as examples
To keep us from setting our hearts
On evil as did those of old.
Do not worship other gods of man;
Do not give your hearts to them;
Not partake in immorality.
Do not test your Lord and King.

So, be careful if you think you are
Standing firm in your faith in Jesus.
God has given his word to warn us,
So through faith we will not fall.
No temptation has o’ertaken you
Except what is commonplace.
God is faithful to not let you be
Tempted past what you can bear.
He gives the way of escape.

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vain repetitions

What do you think that the Lord means when he says "Thus therefore shall you pray"?
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.​
(Matthew 6:5-13 KJV)
Can you obey the Lord's command without praying the Lord's prayer?

Can blasphemy also happen when a word that has sacred meaning which was written down goes through an act of disposal?

Is it blasphemous to write "God" for example, and for that note to end up being disposed in the trash?

Can blasphemy also happen when a word that has sacred meaning which was written down goes through an act of disposal?

The context for this is bc when I was eating a snack, I noticed the wrapping had written on it the address of where it was made, and in the country where I live in I often see addresses (streets, cities, etc) with religious names on such food wrappers like “Holy Faith” or “Saint Peter” etc… Out of doubt, I have been collecting so many food wrappers with addresses like that due to me not knowing yet for sure what I should do with them, and I don’t want to offend the sacredness of the meaning behind such words by the way of disposing the wrapper…I’m terrified of blasphemy against The Holy Spirit..

I now started to worry on even doing transactions with businesses that have food wrapped with addresses like that, bc it seems for some reason wrong to me to sell or buy something with such words and for that to probably end up in the trash by many..

Is there something in the Bible that can give some thought to this? What verses are out there talking about a similar topic to enlighten my conscience? Is it blasphemous to dispose of those wrappers in the trash?

I think I saw somewhere that Jews try not to write the name of God, perhaps out of a similar fear as mine? And that they bury texts with sacred words instead etc… is there a way to treat the thing (paper, wrapper, etc) where a word with a sacred meaning has been written? Does the paper require a special treatment out of the sacred meaning of the word it may have?
And is it okay to transaction with a business that sells food wrapped in paper with an address which contains word that has a sacred meaning and for it to end in the trash by many?

I’m a non-denominational Christian btw


Pls help my conscience :(
Thank you!

Can blasphemy also happen when a word that has sacred meaning which was written down goes through an act of disposal?

Is it blasphemous to write "God" for example, and for that note to end up being disposed in the trash?

Can blasphemy also happen when a word that has sacred meaning which was written down goes through an act of disposal?

The context for this is bc when I was eating a snack, I noticed the wrapping had written on it the address of where it was made, and in the country where I live in I often see addresses (streets, cities, etc) with religious names on such food wrappers like “Holy Faith” or “Saint Peter” etc… Out of doubt, I have been collecting so many food wrappers with addresses like that due to me not knowing yet for sure what I should do with them, and I don’t want to offend the sacredness of the meaning behind such words by the way of disposing the wrapper…I’m terrified of the blasphemy against The Holy Spirit..

I now started to worry on even doing transactions with businesses that have food wrapped with addresses like that, bc it seems for some reason wrong to me to sell or buy something with such words and for that to probably end up in the trash by many..

Is there something in the Bible that can give some thought to this? What verses are out there talking about a similar topic to enlighten my conscience? Is it blasphemous to dispose of those wrappers in the trash?

I think I saw somewhere that Jews try not to write the name of God, idk why, maybe out of a similar fear as mine? And that they bury texts with sacred words instead etc… is there a way to treat the thing (paper, wrapper, etc) where a word with a sacred meaning has been written? Does the paper require a special treatment out of the sacred meaning of the word it may have?
And is it okay to transaction with a business that sells food wrapped in paper with an address which contains word that has a sacred meaning and for it to end in the trash by many?

I’m a non-denominational Christian btw


Pls help my conscience :(
Thank you!

Life's a Game?

Headed nowhere, that’s the game.
Changing nothing, still the same.
Fighting battles, not to win,
For intending to give in.

Play with fire, will get burned.
Not intending hearts to turn.
Always running here or there,
Seeming to not have a care.

Making fun of everything.
Joking, laughing, life’s a fling.
Entertainment – where it’s at!
They’re not kidding – that’s a fact!

Have no purpose, so escape,
To a world that’s truly fake.
No direction, nothing gained,
Living life now so in vain.

Life so empty, void of God.
Pleasure driven where they trod.
God in heaven looking down
Speaks His message to these clowns.

You will surely reap what’s sown.
If for pleasure, you will drown.
If for God in Heav’n above,
Life eternal giv’n by God.

An Original Work / August 8, 2019

But I Received Mercy

“I thank him who has given me strength, Christ Jesus our Lord, because he judged me faithful, appointing me to his service, though formerly I was a blasphemer, persecutor, and insolent opponent. But I received mercy because I had acted ignorantly in unbelief, and the grace of our Lord overflowed for me with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost. But I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life. To the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.” (1 Timothy 1:12-17 ESV)

Not one of us is saved from our sins, delivered out of slavery to sin, saved from the punishment of sin, and given the hope of eternal life with God because of our own goodness, in our own flesh, but only because of God’s grace to us in sending Jesus Christ to that cross to take upon himself the sins of the entire world, putting our sin to death with him so that, by God’s grace, we will no longer walk in sin but now in righteousness and in walks of obedience to our Lord and to his commandments (New Covenant).

[Heb 12:1-2; Eph 2:8-10; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; Acts 26:18; Rom 3:9-26; Rom 5:12-19; Rom 6:1-23; 1 Co 15:21-22,42-49; 1 Peter 2:24]

And we are only able to be the Lord’s servants and messengers and witnesses for him and for his gospel because he delivered us out of our slavery to sin and he gave us new lives in Christ Jesus to now be lived for him and for his purposes, by his grace, and in his power and strength. And only because of God’s grace in pardoning us from our sins and in renewing us in our spirits and minds, and because he chose to call us to his service, can he use us for his purposes in ministering his word to the people.

So, I am not here doing what I am doing because I lived a perfect life. I did not! I followed the Lord closely for a period of time, and then I had a time of failure, but then he drew me back to himself, and when I turned back to him, and I surrendered my all to him, and I accepted his sovereignty over my life, and that I will have trials and tribulations as part of serving him, then he called me to this present ministry of writing down what he is teaching me each day from his word and to place these on the internet.

And when God called Paul (then Saul) to the work of the ministry, he was on his way to persecute even more believers in Jesus Christ, for then he was opposed to Christ and to his followers. But God turned him around, just like he did with me, and he changed him, and he gave him a new lease on life, not because Paul (Saul) was a righteous man, but because God was going to change him into a righteous man, by his grace, and he was going to empower him to live a holy life and to share the gospel of our salvation.

Many people erroneously misinterpret Paul’s words here when he said that he was the foremost of sinners (he said “I am” the foremost). But if we read of Paul’s life in the Scriptures, and all that he taught in the Scriptures, and did, we will see clearly that he was not saying that he was (present tense) the foremost of sinners, in practice actively. But he saw himself as the worst of sinners in comparison to all others because of what he had previously done in persecuting the church, which was against Jesus Christ.

For we need to go back a few verses to verse 13 where Paul stated that he was “formerly a blasphemer, persecutor, and insolent opponent. But I received mercy because I had acted ignorantly in unbelief.” So he said that he formerly was this person who he described as the foremost of sinners, for that is how he viewed himself, not that he was still living that way. But the things he had done to other Christians, he believed, categorized him as the worst of the worst. But by God’s grace, he was delivered from that life of sin.

See: Was Paul a Hypocrite? II

Paul did not deserve God’s grace and mercy, and I did not deserve God’s grace and mercy for the time that I deserted him and I gave in to my flesh. So I am extremely humbled that God would choose to call me to this ministry, and that, I believe, is what Paul was expressing, too. He had no room for pride, and neither do I. He was well aware that all that he was able to accomplish was only by the grace of God, but as he submitted to God’s will for us his life. The same with me. So all the glory goes to God.

So, what does this tell all of us? We don’t have to be defined by our pasts. But, for some people, their past is still their present, for they are still living in the past, still doing all the same evil they did before without change of heart and mind and direction. So this is not saying that we can continue living in sin and that God is going to use us to be his witnesses and messengers and servants. But it does encourage us that not all is lost. We can still come out of our pasts and change and be given new lives to live.

So, even if you are one who has failed yourself and others and God miserably, as long as you are still alive, God can change you and make you into someone he can use for his purposes if you will turn from your sin and now commit to following the Lord wherever he leads you. You are only “wasted space” if you choose to be. Your past life does not have to be your present life. And it doesn’t matter if your sins, in your opinion, were the worst of the worst. God can change you, if you will surrender to Him.

Songs in the Night

An Original Work / December 18, 2013

“About midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening to them.” Acts 16:25 NIV ‘84


Lord, I praise You forevermore.
You, my Savior, I now adore.
Hope in heaven awaiting me,
Because You died at Calvary.

I have been forgiven,
And I’m bound for heaven.
Jesus set me free from
All my sin, I say.
I will praise Him always!

Lord, I love You for all You’ve done:
Overcame death, my vict’ry won!
Jesus saved me, and now I’m free!
I rejoice in His love for me.

I will walk in vict’ry!
My sin is but hist’ry!
I am free to please Him
With my life today.
I will love Him always!

Lord, I thank You for giving me
A new life bought at Calvary.
Loving Jesus, I meet with Him.
Tender mercies now flow within.

Lord, I am so thankful;
Through my Lord, I’m able
To sit at His table;
Fellowship with Him.
I will thank Him always!

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Paul's handkerchiefs healed people

Ac 19:

11 God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.
Paul did not directly contact these sick people but indirectly through his handkerchiefs or aprons. God worked miracles through Paul using different methods at different times. The handkerchief method was not a normative practice for Christian healing—then or now. There is no formula to effect miracles.

See also Did Peter's shadow heal the sick people?
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Kevin Sorbo's finds books for gay pride for small, very small children

Kevin Sorbo went to a local Barnes and Noble to check out some of the kids books they had, you'll be shocked by what he found.
Books like "Twas The Night Before Pride" "Woke Baby" and "People of Pride" were all in the children's book section!
This makes it clear that Barnes & Noble is more worried about pushing an agenda that promoting, wholesome, good children's content. And it isn't only Barnes & Noble. Target, Disney, and a ton of other examples are blntantly pushing an agenda. We need to stop giving our money to these brands.
We need to support brands that stand up for the values that matter to us, instead of trying to tear them down. Brands that are safe for our children and their young imaginations.
And BRAVE Books is just that. We make content that not only entertains children but will also strengthen their character and teach traditional biblical values.
Our books teach values like hard work, perseverance, and humility. When you join our Freedom Island Book Club, you will get a new book sent to your door every single month that teaches a different pro-God, pro-America value.
Plus, for a limited time, you’ll get Kevin Sorbo’s brand new book for FREE! Claim this limited time offer by clicking the link below!

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Open Hymnal: A Free Christian Resource for Hymns

Hello folks. Have you guys heard of Open Hymnal? It is a Christian hymn book which is free to use, and most of the songs have no copyright. The website looks like something from 2001, but the Open Hymnal 2014 version is just over a decade old. God bless the folks who have worked on this. @Kokavkrystallos , you might like this, if you are planning on building a chapel, as this book is free and digital.

Open Hymnal Project:

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Is there scientific support for Racism in China?

According to Science race does not exist. Yet we still have racism. It is interesting with my son that no one has ever guessed that he is asian. They say black or hispanic but never once has anyone ever said asian. So even though there is no scientific basis for race people still get to choose what "race" they are.

In American we have a very long history of dealing with "racism". According the the United Nations and scientific studies it has been shown that China tries to deny that racism exist and so they do nothing to control racism in that country. They are far behind other countries in controlling this issue.

This is the Wiki article on racism in China.


The subspecies of Homo erectus known to the present day include:

  1. Homo erectus erectus (Java Man)
  2. Homo erectus pekinensis (Peking Man)
  3. Homo erectus soloensis (Solo Man)
  4. Homo erectus latianensis (Latian Man)
  5. Homo erectus nankinensis (Nanking Man)
  6. Homo erectus yuanmouensis (Yuanmou Man

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Alabama youth minister allegedly threatened to kill his wife if teen rape victim did not send nude photos

Terry Lewayne Murphree, 39, threatened to kill himself and his wife if the teen victim didn’t comply with his demands, according to court documents.

Murphree is charged in Blount County with 17 crimes: nine counts of a clergy member having sexual intercourse with a child, three counts of sexual abuse, and one count each of first-degree rape, electronic solicitation of a child, human trafficking, traveling to meet a child for sex, and first-degree attempted sodomy.

Intercourse against the girl’s will took place at least seven times and possibly as many as 15, records state. Those acts took place at the unnamed church, at Murphree’s home and at the victim’s home.
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