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J.D. Vance: Women who have not given birth, such as Kamala Harris, are “childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives,”

"In a video drawn from a 2021 interview on Fox News’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” J.D. Vance, now the GOP vice-presidential nominee, said that Harris and other prominent Democrats (including Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) “don’t really have a direct stake” in the country’s future because they are “people without children.” In the clip, which has amassed more than 25 million views since it was shared Monday on X, Vance also refers to Democrats as “a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices they’ve made.”

Harris is the step-mother of two children.
Buttigieg has two children (born in 2022).

To “hell” with God’s Image?

If the thread title got your attention and made you go huh? Perhaps even angered you? Good! I have two very sincere and very relevant questions for my ECT brothers in Christ.

1). If God made man in His own image, why would He send any of His Image bearers to hell?

Ans: He most definitely would NOT and will NOT …The Scriptures are clear … man is made in God’s Image. Yes? Therefore it follows, were God to send even one man, let alone the majority of mankind to hell, He would be condemning His own Image to hell! No? Hmmmmmmm, I can’t see how anyone can disagree with this logical conclusion.

God’s Name is on the line here folks. His Name is who He is and He is the only true God and there is no other! AMEN! He declares He will not give His glory to another … I would here be referring to Satan. The Adversary of God and man. Is God going to allow Satan to torment Him via His image bearers? Forever? At all?


2). If Jesus died and paid the penalty for our sin, and according to so many that penalty is ECT, why is Jesus seated at the Right Hand of God instead of suffering ECT in hell for all the redeemed who have trusted Him to pay the penalty for their sin?

Ans: Because “the wages of sin is death …” Both physical and spiritual death. First death, Second Death … doesn’t matter. Death is death. The last enemy to be defeated is death! No? Jesus is not suffering ECT in hell because this carnally minded concept of man is NOT what the Scriptures teach. Plain and simple. If the wages of sin was ECT … He lied! Currently Jesus is not in hell, nor is He in a perpetual state of searing pain, paying the penalty on your behalf. Your debt is still your debt!

This kind of carnal minded theological concept, when taken to its logical conclusion, shows itself to be what it really is; the most God forsaken, wicked assault ever perpetrated against His Name. It completely negates the completed work of Christ. If He were forever suffering the eternal consequences on behalf of His people, He would not have been able to be resurrected! Contempt is being pour out on all His other promises by adhering to this carnal minded doctrine and mockery of the Gospel. Once again, I can’t see how anyone can disagree with this logical conclusion.

Blessings …

Kamala Harris, over 30 congressmen not attending Israeli PM Netanyahu's address to Congress

Republican Sen. JD Vance also not in attendance

Vice President Kamala Harris won't be attending Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech during a joint meetingof Congress on Wednesday, with about 30 federal lawmakers also not planning to attend.

Netanyahu is expected to speak about the ongoing war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip and the effort to free the remaining Israeli and American hostages who were abducted on Oct. 7 of last year.

Harris will not be present for Netanyahu’s speech because the presumptive Democrat Party nominee for president is on the campaign trail, reported CNBC.

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I am an alcoholic going to get treatment.

There is not a whole lot to say. I have been secretly hiding my alcohol addiction for a while. While drinking, I say hurtful things and not remember. Even in my forum posts, I have noticed that I post inflammatory remarks and not even remember until I receive a warning. But what is worst of all, I feel regretful of the things I say to my wife and children. I am beginning treatment on the 26th. Please pray for me.

JD Vance is really unpopular and "dragging Trump down"


Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, is making history as Donald Trump's 2024 running mate, but not in the way that the Trump campaign had hoped. According to a CNN survey taken after the Republican National Convention, Vance has an approval rating of -6 points, making him the first vice presidential nominee to enter the general election with a negative rating since 1980.​
The average rating for a running mate after a party convention has been +19 points.​
"Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters," CNN data analyst Harry Enten said on Tuesday's OutFront with Erin Burnett. Vance, he said, is "dragging Trump down."...​

With Trump struggling to appeal to moderate women, the former president may rue choosing a man who ran for Senate on a hardline anti-abortion stance, criticized childcare subsidies as "class war against normal people" and suggested that married women would be selfish for divorcing their abusive husbands, saying in 2021 that "one of the great tricks that the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was "making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear.”​
Trump could have done better.

Chuck Schumer Announces Democratic Support For Kamala Harris, Complete Embarrassment A Must See!

Watch The Enthusiastic Applaud after Schumers announcement For Kamala Harris For President, complete embarrassment, big smiles!

20 Second Clip Schumer Announcement, Must See!

CNN

Schumer and Jeffries endorse Harris at Tuesday news conference​

July 23, 2024

Get the Facts: Project 2025

As President Joe Biden's campaign seeks to rebound from his rough debate performance, there's been an effort to turn the attention to his opponent, Donald Trump, and his connection to something called Project 2025.

"Project 2025 will destroy America. Look it up," said Biden in a recent Instagram video.

It's not just Biden – the Democratic National Committee is launching a new billboard campaign urging voters to learn more about the project.

News 8 went through the docket that stretches over 900 pages, to see what's in it – and what's not.

Project 2025 has become a bit of a call to action for the Republican Party. The 900-page political playbook is hand-crafted by conservative political leaders to make a possible trump transition as smooth as possible by hitting the ground running — with executive orders and policies.

"Project 2025" is actually just a nickname; the full title is "Mandate for Leadership 2025: The Conservative Promise."


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Donald Trump Conspiracy Theories

There is an article on Wiki about

List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump​



Is it ok for a candidate to talk about conspiracy theories or should they stick to the facts and what has been proven?

What are the rules on here about conspiracy theories? Are they open for discussion?

Harris Wins Soros Backing While Other Billionaire Donors Want an Open Contest

Bloomberg

Harris Wins Soros Backing While Other Billionaire Donors Want an Open Contest​

Story by Amanda Gordon and Heather Perlberg
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(Bloomberg) -- Within hours of Joe Biden’s decision to bow out of the presidential race, many of the biggest names in Democratic politics — from Hillary Clinton to Gavin Newsom to megadonor George Soros — rushed to join him in backing Vice President Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket.
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The Eschatology of Israel

The Eschatology of Israel


It sounds crazy to teach what is in this post, but it’s just what I believe personally, after two and a half decades of Biblical research. Many attempt to relate Jer 31:31-33; Eze 36:25-27 to Jews who convert to Christianity, but it's actually a new covenant for Israel which will still involve "law" (Jer 31:33), "statutes and judgments" (Eze 36:27), and "ordinances" (Eze 11:20). Besides, the Christians final and New Covenant is the "Covenant of Redemption" which is not a covenant between God and man, like Israel's coming New Covenant, but is between the Father and the Son; with the Father raising Him to save believers. Many Jews truly love God and He them!

It is my belief that there will be two groups of people who shall be saved: those who believe in the Lord Jesus, and the Jews who do not believe in the Lord Jesus, but believe in God (Jn 14:1 – “Ye believe in God” KJV). Those believing in Christ will inherit the New Heaven; those believing in God only, inherit the New Earth, the final “promise” of inheriting the “land.” Scripture always speaks of the Jews inheriting the “Land” (New Earth). Jews who desire to inherit the New Heaven must believe in the Lord Jesus or they cannot enter here.

I do not think it easy, especially of being sure, that God would abandon His “people” after four millennia of Him working with them, repetitiously bringing them back to Himself after continuous straying. I say “straying” because this type of disobedience doesn’t detract their belief in Him, and there is much ignorance in their disobedience, and is why God will never fail to restore them to fellowship. Presently Israel is out of fellowship with God for not believing in His Son, but will never be out of union with Him. Their belief in God gains them union with Him; their obedience to God gains them also fellowship with Him!

It’s my belief that God will not abandon Israel after four millennia now of dealing with restoring them back to Himself after straying; not in unbelief, but disobedience. The Jews who will be in unbelief will perish (Rom 11:20; Heb 3:19; 4:6), along with the non-Christian Gentiles.

He will finally restore Israel’s fellowship to Himself, this time “causing” them to be obedient (Eze 36:27); same as the born again saint being caused to “please” God (Phil 2:13). Presently, Israel is not in fellowship with God for disbelieving in His Son, but will finally restore them to fellowship after seeing the Lord Jesus at the rapture. But those who do not believe in Christ before they see Him will miss the “blessing” (Jn 20:29) of inheriting the New Heaven; but God’s plan is that His people Israel will inherit the New Earth, and the Christians inherit the New Heaven—ruling with the Lord Jesus over the New Earth.

Most will not understand these teachings because they will never be taught as common doctrine. It’s also my belief that God is so protective of Israel—His “people,” to the point that most of the teachings of Israel’s eschatology requires much Scriptural-inference to determine their understanding.
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Also Returning back

I was on here years ago. I remember that several people were quite nice. And several were quite abrasive. I had stopped looking and posting because I can be sensitive. Hoping that in the last several years (I'm not sure exactly but I believe its been 10ish years) I've gotten thicker skin. How do I look up the old post and threads that I was participating in? Peace

The Elephant in the Room

People today are mostly in denial of what the future may hold for them. Worldwide natural disasters and manmade problems seem to be proliferating with no easing up or solutions in sight. It may just be possible for mankind to overcome its plagues, economic woes, resource shortages and rebuild earthquake damage, etc, but a prospective World War 3, starting in the Middle East, has the potential to practically wipe us out and pollute large areas of the earth.

A lot of people do not want to be concerned about the future, it’s hard enough just to get by without any extra worry and it is right that we must carry on doing what we have to for survival. Those whom God has called for a specific task must continue to do it and we all need to plan and provide for the future as though things will continue as usual. It is a mistake to sell up and withdraw to a hideout, as many failed doomsday proponents have shown.

However, ‘You, My friends are not in the dark’ about end times events. ‘It is ‘While they are saying: All is peaceful: sudden destruction will come upon them’. 1 Thess. 5:3-4 ‘My friends’- those who love the Lord and keep His commandments. Luke 21:34-36

they/them’- godless people, who don’t know that God Himself will act against them. Micah 4:12

The Bible [and the Apocrypha] have a very large amount of unfulfilled prophecy, that is not there for no reason; God expects us to take note of what He has told us through His prophets. Because so many incorrect ideas and notions about what God has planned abound in the church and in the secular world, it is difficult for us to overcome them and just simply believe the literal words of the prophets. Excepting for the obvious metaphors, which are used to describe events and scenes unknown in their time.

With the current world situation as it is, then we must expect something dramatic to change the situation and commence the end times events. The Lord had told us, through the ancient prophets, what this will be – in over 100 prophecies, of the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a judgement of fire that destroys His enemies and sets the scene for the fulfilment of Revelation 7 - 22, to Eternity.

We are clearly informed of the nature and extent of this event, it will be a gigantic fireball exploded out from the sun – a Coronal Mass Ejection of superheated particles that will envelope the earth and literally cause all the prophesied disasters. But there will be plenty of survivors, just a matter of staying under shelter until the CME passes; Isaiah 26:20-21, and fervent prayers for the Lord’s protection. Acts 2:21,+


The so called prophecy gurus, don’t have the truth and while their motivation is money and adulation, God will not enlighten them. Demonic entities can perform certain signs and wonders and they know what the Bible says, therefore they may give mankind information or dis-information, for their own reasons.

So, people are now without any real idea of how and when this huge threat will impact their existence.

The fulfilment of the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath is ‘the Elephant in the Room’, the event that ‘comes like a thief’, but we who ‘are His friends’ can and should know of what the Lord has planned for His Creation.
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Suspect dead after 80-year-old hit by ATV in Hancock

Another act of violence. The media is complicit in such political hate crimes.

Rebel by Anne Wilson

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This is a rousing song that made me wanna dance and shout along with the lyrics with praise to the Lord.


Who talks to a man that they can’t see?
Who finds power in an old book they read?
In a world full of doubt, who still believes?
Who talks to a man that they can’t see?

Call me crazy, call me a fool
I ain’t scared cuz I know the truth
Ain’t gonna run, ain’t gonna hide
Ain’t gonna change my mind

When the crowd goes one way, I go the other
When the battle rages I won’t back down
The gates of hell are gonna shake and tremble
In the name of Jesus gonna stand my ground
If a rebel’s what it takes
A rebel’s what I’ll be
Cause the one I follow
Was a rebel like me

Got a long line of rebels in the family tree
The ones who weren’t afraid to make history
David to Goliath, Daniel to the lion
Moses pushing back the sea
Got a long line of rebels in the family tree

Who takes His own cross up a hill
Who loves a sinner nobody else will
Who changed the world when His blood was spilled
Who takes His own cross up a hill

They called Him crazy, called Him a fool
But He’s the way, the life, the truth
Ain’t gonna run, ain’t gonna hide
Ain’t gonna change my mind

Kamala boycotts our closest ally in the Middle East

Harris to skip Netanyahu’s speech to Congress but plans separate meeting


Vice President Kamala Harris declined to preside over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s address to Congress on Wednesday, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.​
The decision to skip the joint meeting underscores the tense relationship between the Biden administration and Netanyahu at a time when the war in Gaza has caused growing backlash from the left.​
A visiting head of state addressing a joint session of Congress and neither the President, nor the VP will attend -nice slap in the face.

Why does that sound familiar? hmmm... let's look

Biden to Skip Netanyahu Speech


Vice President Joe Biden will not be in attendance when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addresses a joint session of Congress next month, his office confirmed Friday.​
Biden is the latest and most prominent Democrat to announce he will be absent from the speech that has stoked a political furor in Washington. Biden's office said he will be traveling abroad on a pre-planned trip, the details of which have not been released.​

For those who are not familiar - the Vice President is the President of the Senate and sits next to the Speaker of the House on all formal meetings. Once again they demonstrate their distain for our ally.

Stupid California!

Southern California fast food jobs hit record high despite minimum wage hike

They cant even obey the laws of capitalism!!!


Fast food industry sees 2.2% increase in employment.


And look. The best thing is that workers are getting more money. Despite all the kvetching and all the rightwingers predicting doom because workers get a piece of rhr big mambo.


The American Right: More pointless friction against helping American worker since well, as long as necessary.

Harris and the Persistence of Memory

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A special prosecutor was dispatched to investigate Biden's taking and disclosure of classified docs during his tenure as VP....turned over 7 years later (roughly) by his lawyers.

The prosecutor, unsurprisingly, didn't recommend charges for the sitting president...but to his credit, his reason for doing so was honest. He said what even those in denial struggled to deny after Biden's debate....his mind is gone. He couldn't remember well his time as VP...and couldn't remember much of anything regarding the docs. The sitting president.

Some would dismiss this as partisan hackery without knowing anything about the special prosecutor. I'd say that while nobody probably expected charges....at least he was honest. It would have been nice to see the same honesty from Harris...but she did what the media did....and lied to the public about the president.

Thoughts?
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K. Harris (Of Brahmin descent) faces polling challenges in key areas

Harris descends from the Brahmin super-class super-elite -

Kamala's grandfather "Gopalan was a Brahmin, part of a privileged elite in Hinduism’s ancient caste hierarchy. In post-independence India, convention destined Brahmin offspring for arranged marriages and comfortable careers in academia, government service or the priesthood — if they were men. Women were not expected to work at all."

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And if Independents are in any way key to the outcome in this race ... well then..

Poll shows Kamala is trailing - among Independent women

37% among independents in general

  • "Harris only pulls in 32% of independents in a match-up against Trump, while Biden got 46% in Marist’s last survey. She only gets 40% of white voters, compared to Biden’s 47%; and only 42% of small city/suburban women, compared to 58% for Biden.

  • "Trump now leads with suburban voters, 50%-42%, when Biden had led previously, 56%-42%.
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Rock Solid by DeGarmo & Key My MOST Favorite DeGarmo and Key song

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Rock solid
Rock solid
Rock solid
Rock solid

I met a stranger and he called me his friend,
Opened his door and invited me in,
And when he looked my way,
Got a chill up my spine,
He said, "Brother, you can stay with me,
I'll give you anything that you might need,
And this world can be yours
If your heart is inclined.
If it's money,
I've got it;
I've got a life of ease,
And if it's power,
I'll give it, "
That's when I told him,
"No thank-you please."
I'm Rock solid, I know where I stand,
Rock solid in the Master's hand,
Rock solid,
Grounded in love.


When I was leaving,
He laughed in my face,
"You'll soon be back and then I'll rest my case,
You'll depend on me
No help is in sight, "
And I responded, "I don't need your lies,
You ain't nothing but a thorn in my side,
Just a wounded snake
That looks for children to bite,
I've got power,
I've got spirit,
I've got a message that's true,
My satisfaction
Comes from Jesus,
And He is so much better than you."


Rock solid, I know where I stand,
Rock solid in the Master's hand,
Rock solid,
Grounded in love.
Rock solid, I know where I stand,
Rock solid in the Master's hand,
Rock solid,
Grounded in love.

Black Lives Matter calls for public participation in the Democratic nomination process

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
JULY 23, 2024

Black Lives Matter calls on the DNC to host a virtual snap primary.

Washington D.C.
– Black Lives Matter demands that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August. We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters.

While Joe Biden wasn’t our preferred candidate, we cannot ignore the troubling actions of the Democratic Party:

  • The DNC refused to host debates during the primary, even though a vast majority of Democratic voters wanted them. This would have likely allowed America to see the decline of Joe Biden in 2023.
  • The DNC changed the primary schedule and created rules that made it almost impossible for non-Biden candidates to appear on the ballot, effectively clearing the field of any challengers to the incumbent president.
  • Following the primary where millions of Black voters weighed in, after one poor debate performance, the DNC Party elites and billionaire donors bullied Joe Biden out of the race.
Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet.

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MAGA types have been criticizing The Lincoln Project for daring to continue to criticize Trump! But - first amendment much?

I love the irony. MAGA types have been accusing The Lincoln Project of being 'un-American' because they dare to continue to criticise Trump.
But how 'un-American' is it to tell a group to quiet down during an election of such epic and toxic proportions?
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Poll - will Donald Trump Debate Kamala Harris on National TV?

Will Donald Trump Debate Kamala Harris on National TV?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 47.5%
  • Yes, but not on ABC

    Votes: 3 7.5%
  • No

    Votes: 18 45.0%

Trump had agreed that the second Biden-Trump debate was to be held September 10 on ABC with David Muir and Linsey Davis as moderators.

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Which language did God speak when he told Moses the 10 Commandments?

Exodus 20:

1 God spoke all these words:
What language did God speak here?

13 "You shall not murder."
לא תרצח׃ ס
God wrote down the 10 Commandments on 2 stone tablets (Exodus 31:18).

Did Moses pen exactly these (Paleo) Hebrew words in Ex 20:13?

Moses received the Ten Commandments in the 15th century BC. The extant OT manuscripts were written using the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet, the earliest known examples of which dated to the 10th century BC. While in Egypt, Moses and his contemporaries spoke a Canaanite dialect at home and Egyptian outside. Their mother tongue became the Proto-Hebrew and developed into the Paleo-Hebrew. Moses wrote in that transitional language with loanwords from Egypt. The Pentateuch we read today in the manuscripts took centuries of evolution and compilation before the language/writing settled down to the form that was recorded.

Textual criticism is a scholarly discipline that aims to reconstruct the original text of a document, particularly ancient texts, when the original is no longer available.

Which language did God use to communicate with Moses?

An ancient form of Hebrew that was slightly different from Paleo Hebrew and quite a bit different from modern Hebrew. Like all human languages, Hebrew has evolved over time.
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