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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Possible Assassin Arrested At RNC



Perhaps near RNC would be a better descriptor. Suspect appeared suspicious....wearing a ski mask (I bet he's never gone skiing before) and carrying a bag that appeared heavy.

"The federal agent stopped Tinsley, who consented to a search of his backpack, where the agent immediately found the AK-47 pistol, known as a "Draco," authorities said. Asked whether he had a concealed carry permit, Tinsley admitted he did not, they said.
Also found in the backpack were a magazine fully loaded with rifle ammunition, a "Scream" movie mask, a flashlight, two sets of black gloves, a pair of sunglasses, an Allied Universal Security uniform shirt, two cans of spray paint and multiple empty designer marijuana bags, authorities said. Two cellphones were also found in Tinsley's pant pockets, they said."
I'll say it....guy keeping two masks, gloves, illegal weapon, hanging around outside RNC checkpoint....

Seems like authorities were right to be suspicious and likely prevented another attack.

Thoughts?

The assassination attempt plot thickens

As with all early stories like this one, use your brain to determine the viability of this information. i.e. make of it what you will

HUGE SHORT POSITION FILED BY Austin company on TRUMP ORG DAY BEFORE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT!

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There is lots of information in the supplied links within the story regarding viability. Worth a cursory glance, at the very least.

Broader takes on the whole issue:


The "soros backed" company and "clerical error" in the same sentence, caused me to do this:

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Fellowship Discussion: The Beast

I'm choosing to talk about this in OBOB in fellowship with you all who have in some cases been long time CF friends. I really do not care to venture outside of this specific forum for any reason, and many of you know why.

I was laying down to go to sleep last night after watching more of the GOP Convention. Kai's cute speech about her grandpa, JD's awesome speech, just a good night. I've been all in on Trump since 2016. But last night when I was in that in-between phase of sleep, I heard 5 words spoken that made me jump out of bed: Beast, Head Wound, Miracle, Careful. And the image of Trump's bloody face with his fist raised to the sky with the American flag in the background came to my mind and stayed stuck there for some time. I immediately opened my Bible to Revelation 13 to read about this again. The dragon whom the world worships gave power to the beast, who has the mouth of a lion, who received what appeared to be a fatal head wound, but he miraculously recovered and all the world marvelled. He was given power for 42 months, almost the term of the presidency. My heart started racing. It's an absolute miracle that Trump, appearing to be shot in the head, was only grazed on the ear, and he rose triumphantly, as the whole world calls it a miracle. Many people are seeing a different Trump now, and many who weren't before are now sympathetic to his side of things. The world's leaders released positive statements about Trump, hoping and "praying" for his protection and healing, calling for unity. The Democrats are toning down some of the rhetoric, and turning on Biden. Trump is smashing him in the polls.

And then the "mouth of a lion" caught my attention and I remembered Trump's sometimes foul mouth, and I remembered how Donald Trump Jr on several occasions last night called his father a lion, said that he had the heart of a lion.

Now, the whole world doesn't love and worship Trump (yet???? ever???? I'm just sharing my experiences from last night), and I can't see a world in which the LGBT and abortion Leftist Dems are the actual good guys (my opinion), but this shocked me to my core and I thought I would tell you all about it. I couldn't sleep for quite some time.

Kept through faith….

1 Peter 1:5 (NKJV)
who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

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What is this being kept through faith that this scripture is addressing…?

It would be, being kept from the doings of unrighteousness, for we are not kept in our sins, but kept from our sins, for if one is not being kept from their sins, that one is not being kept by the power of God being brought forth by that one’s faith…..

For faith in the power of God actively working in one’s life is the only thing that can keep one from the doings of unrighteousness…. For we are saved to something, and that something is the doing of righteousness…. For this is the will of God in everyone’s life, that righteousness would be manifested in all of one’s doings….

Seeing it is only the faith of the believer that can accomplish this task, for faith in the power of God actively working in one’s life is the salvation offered in Christ….. For this is what we are called to, to actively believe in the power of God to keep us from all unrighteousness….

For the issue being; does the believer want to be freed from all unrighteousness or just certain sins at certain times, not hating sin so much that they would willingly enter into death to be freed from all of them… But when a believer, any believer would willingly enter into their death in Christ to be freed from any and all sins at any and every moment of time, that one will be kept by the power of God according to that one’s faith….

For experiencing this new life spoken of in scripture is found in the doing of righteousness in the time of this life….. For when one walks in all the righteousness that one sees, that one is walking in the will of God to that degree, and that one, is being kept by the joy and the peace of Christ’s life growing and being manifested in and through that one as that one’s very new life….. For this being the new birth coming to life, which can only be brought to life by faith in the power of God brought forth by the believer’s faith in their death and resurrection with Christ….

Oh to the increasing of that faith, that the new life might be brought forth….


Unto Him be all things, a fellow follower, Not me

The New Democrat Dynamic Duo


Do I like Slate? No. If you want...I can pick another article showing Hunter is now a regular part of White House meetings, but I picked this one because it describes Hunter more aptly than others.

Gatekeeper.

Why would Hunter Biden be gatekeeping his father's face to face time? Easy. This election is crucial to him and his father staying out of jail. Remember those FBI whistleblowers? Recall the IRS whistleblowers? Remember the HHS whistleblower? Recall the special prosecutor who decided against pressing charges for the classified documents? Even if we ignore the litany of times Biden has failed to do his sworn duties....there's absolutely nothing stopping a full investigation into his multiple shell companies should Trump win. Why would Trump bother? Because he's been investigated and charged with everything imaginable except crucifying Jesus. The evidence for prosecuting him for the illegal docs already exists....Trump would only need appoint a prosecutor willing to go forward with the charges. The DOJ was protecting Hunter extensively (literally warning his lawyers when the IRS agents were acquiring warrants to search his property) and limiting the scope of the investigation to Hunter when the evidence led to Joe himself. This was all laid out in their whistleblower testimony.

About half of the Democrats in office want Joe to step aside so someone with better chances can step in....and he won't do it. At the same time, Hunter and to a lesser degree, the first lady have been gatekeeping personal conversations with Joe. He's an old man, with an old brain....it probably wouldn't be too difficult for upper level Democrats he respects to convince him to step aside for the party....so his family is by his side reminding him they could all face serious prosecution if he doesn't win. If we're being completely honest....he may get prosecuted by a Democrat president who wants to give the appearance of accountability and end the stigma the party has drawn by relentlessly prosecuting Trump by sacrificing Joe.

Hunter has been a dark cloud over Biden's administration since before day 1. He's been kept at arm's length this entire term. Now he's apparently sitting by his daddy's side ever since the disastrous debate performance. Why? For moral support lol? Perhaps for his solid legal advice which foreign companies across the globe have been paying millions (which then get "loaned" to the Big Guy)?


It seems rather obvious to me that the Democratic Party has backed themselves into a corner. They can no longer hide Biden's deficiencies and by some polls, 2/3rds of Democratic voters want him to step aside.

Well folks....don't be surprised if he doesn't. He can't. If he does, he risks being eaten by the same wolves he's sent after Trump.

Thoughts? If you think I'm wrong....why do you think Hunter is now staying by his father's side?

WOW! Republican Senators John Barrasso and Marsha Blackburn Confront Secret Service Director at RNC and Chase Her Out of the Building Demanding Answer

Here's a video showing the head of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, avoiding specific answers to questions from Republican senators. Then she left. Note age is not always a determining factor for a politician, Senator Marsha Blackburn at age 72 was able to run after her.

Trumponomics

I am not impressed with it. I see it as inflationary and nothing is mentioned about debt or the deficit which will harm the country in the future. All this shows he is ignorant of economics like the rest of the politicians and the status quo.

How do you help American workers by giving corporations a tax cut? Lowering the Fed funds rate to 1% probably through QE will enable corporations and investors to buy up assets, thus making it hard for Americans to own homes or pay rent, not to mention all the zombie companies created with virtually free money.

"On rates, Trump says Powell can stay on to the end of his term as Fed Chair, “especially if I thought he was doing the right thing.” But what does that mean? For one, that the Fed shouldn’t be cutting rates before the election. “It’s something that they know they shouldn’t be doing,” he says. Not because Trump read the IMF brief, but because he doesn’t want Powell to give Biden a boost. Welcome to the future of monetary policy which, to be fair, is also much of its past: we just pretend it hasn’t been. It seems that questions will linger about Fed independence, at least in terms of more pliable staffing, should Trump win.
On taxes, the message is also stimulatory. Ttump wants to renew his 2017 tax cuts, at a cost of $4.6trn, and reduce corporate tax to 15%. How that doesn’t blow the federal deficit out to peak WW2 levels in peace time remains to be seen – unless the Fed is leaned on to cut rates; on which, Trump also just talked about a 1% Fed Funds rate, and how that made government spending and tax cuts much more workable."

This is such a bad idea because of inflation. Why continue an economic war with China when we need them more than they need us.

"Moreover, the other centrepiece of Trumponomics remains tariffs. As Bloomberg puts it, ”He keeps circling back to William McKinley --who he dubs “the Tariff King”-- for raising enough revenue through tariffs during his turn-of-the-20th-century presidency to avoid instituting a federal income tax, without appropriate credit. “McKinley made this country rich,” Trump says. “He was the most underrated president,” while his successors squandered his legacy on costly government programs and threw away an important tool for economic statecraft. “I can’t believe how many people are negative on tariffs that are actually smart,” Trump says. “Man, is it good for negotiation. I’ve had guys, I’ve had countries that were potentially extremely hostile coming to me and saying, ‘Sir, please stop with the tariff stuff.’”
Clearly, those thinking Trump won’t use tariffs, or will only impose token ones because of inflation, are not reading the room correctly, just old textbooks. Trump says he intends to raise tariffs on China to 60-100%, and on the EU too, to an unspecified level, and will impose a 10% across-the-board tariff on imports from other countries."

This is letting the fox in the henhouse. Elites think elites have all the answers and he chose Jamie Dimon sadly.

Pointedly, Trump makes clear that this time round, he means business. “Now, I know everybody. Now, I am truly experienced.” He floats Jamie Dimon as a potential Treasury Secretary, as sharp a contrast with the other name touted, former USTR Robert Lighthizer, as possible. One would deliver go-go asset growth; the other is all about tariffs and production. Which is it to be? Or can it really be both?

I forgot to add the link: It's Impossible To Model The Dynamics Of Trumponomics | ZeroHedge

[Staff Edit] Meet the RNC delegates who have adopted Trump’s bandage for their own ears

Meet the RNC delegates who have adopted Trump’s bandage for their own ears

Inspired by Trump, they seek solidarity with him.

“It’s a new sign of unity within the party,” said Joe Neglia, a Republican delegate from Arizona who says he was the first to make an ear covering out of white paper and affix it to the side of his head. “When I saw him come out Monday night — that magical moment — I thought, ‘I have to do something,’ and this is what I could do.”

[Another AZ delegate] estimates that at least half of Arizona’s 40-plus-member delegation is now wearing bandages.
“It’s a sign of solidarity,” he said in an interview on the convention floor.

Arizona delegate Liz Harris said she went to the only Walgreens she could find open at 11 p.m. after the convention was gaveled closed for the day and bought gauze pads and surgical tape, which she proudly displayed on the floor Wednesday night.

And when she heard that some people online had referred to their trend as cultish, she scoffed.

“It’s in solidarity,” she said, echoing Berland, the Arizona delegate.

Just as Harris was saying she wished others might use her newly purchased medical supplies, fellow Arizona delegate Michael Schaffer walked up with an unadorned right ear.

“We’ve got a patient,” she said excitedly, as she began unraveling tape and ministering to his naked ear.

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Hey all!

Hello folks, I guess I should give a short bio. I am Married father of 2 whom just celebrated 20 years of marriage, I served in the military for 20 years and I am an assistant pastor of the Praise community fellowship of Monticello Maine. Oh and I am a Musician/ recording artist and my music is on all platforms under Pastor John's studio. I believe in a pre wrath rapture, I believe that the gifts of the spirit are for today including tongues, and I believe that the sabbath is on Saturday and should be honored.

"Trump Vs Bullet" meme. I am a former soldier. I am disgusted by Trump's refusal to co-operate with his SS detail!

As a former soldier I had to ask myself what kind of conflicts I would be prepared to get involved in. I had to learn drill, to obey orders, and do all the things you HAVE to do or people around you die.

We rehearsed basic moves again and again and again. We would be jogging and our Corporal would yell "Contact!" and the whole platoon would yell "RUN DOWN CRAWL OBSERVE AIM FIRE!" Again and again - until I heard it in my dreams.

The Secret Service agents have their own drill - and the President is meant to follow the same drill. The creator of this next meme thinks it shows how awesome Trump is. Let me set them straight.

Shots were fired from a rifle - so he pauses long enough for MORE SHOTS to be fired from cameras! :doh:

Except, we have a live contact! More rounds could be coming down range. They should have been out of there by then! Follow the drill!

Trump wasn't just risking his own life - but the lives of the agents around him. Yeah - what a hero - he can punch the air and let the agents pay with their lives for this photo shoot opportunity! If I were an agent in that situation I would be tempted to quote Trump's lines about NATO members struggling to pay 2%.

"You don't want to obey the drill - you delinquent? No I will not protect you and in fact I will encourage them to do whatever the h.... they want!"

And stand back and let whatever happens, happen!
Hey - it's only fair. He said this about whole countries who would not pay - potentially encouraging major new wars.
It's only fair if he cannot even obey the drill.

Agents are the heroes in this shot - not Trump! They're LITERALLY shielding him with their bodies.
Yet people want to think Trump is the hero as he puts them at further risk?
I ask you - is this the most misdirected meme you've ever seen?



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4 things to know about Usha Chilukuri Vance, wife of Trump's VP pick

Sen. J.D. Vance, R-Ohio, and his wife, Usha Chilukuri Vance, look on as he is nominated for the office of vice president on the first day of the Republican National Convention at the Fiserv Forum on July 15, 2024, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Delegates, politicians, and the Republican faithful are in Milwaukee for the annual convention, concluding with former President Donald Trump accepting his party's presidential nomination. The RNC takes place from July 15-18.
Sen. J.D. Vance, R-Ohio, and his wife, Usha Chilukuri Vance, look on as he is nominated for the office of vice president on the first day of the Republican National Convention at the Fiserv Forum on July 15, 2024, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Delegates, politicians, and the Republican faithful are in Milwaukee for the annual convention, concluding with former President Donald Trump accepting his party's presidential nomination. The RNC takes place from July 15-18. | Anna Moneymaker/Getty Image

Following former President Donald Trump’s selection of Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate, the Republican lawmaker’s wife has received renewed attention now that her husband, if elected, would become the second in command.

Usha Chilukuri Vance and her husband have been married since 2014. She is an accomplished attorney and the daughter of Indian immigrants.

In a Monday announcement posted to Truth Social, Trump revealed that he chose Usha’s husband as his vice president after “lengthy deliberation.” Trump highlighted Vance’s military service and educational background, promising that his running mate “will be strongly focused on the people he fought so brilliantly for, the American Workers and Farmers in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, and far beyond.”

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Evolution and Evil

Evolutionists ignore the fact that along with man evolving, we are the only species on the planet that has also evolved evil. Pain, suffering and death occurs with all creatures. But for mankind, we discriminate, enslave, lie, steal, cheat, murder, have wars, and on and on. Not only do we do things to others, but we do evil things to ourselves. And both internal and external traits of evil grow with each generation. Some psychologists believe evil evolved with evolution. But if this were true, then mankind would be devolving, not evolving-which is a Christian position. Despite the insistence of some that mankind has evolved from the same source and are just like all the other animals, there is no explaining how evil evolved. Evolutionist tend to ignore the issue.

Mankind is unique to this world and generates evil apart from any other animal on the world. And if evolution was correct, and mankind came from the same source as all other living creatures, then evil wouldn't/shouldn't exist.

So how did evil evolved?

Biden tests positive for Covid-19 and will self-isolate in Delaware, White House says

The White House said that Biden is heading to Delaware and will self-isolate and "continue to carry out all of his duties fully during that time."

Continued below.

ATF ID'd Buyer of Crooks' Gun in 30 Minutes; Process Usually Takes 8 Days

Why? Because the gun lobby got laws into place that prevent the ATF from creating a searchable digital database, forcing them to manually sift through paper records (or photo scans of paper records).


Some back story and details:

I wonder how the folks opposed to government waste and inefficiency feel about this.

My path to God

Hello all, I have recently accepted Jesus Christ into my life and have working towards being a better follower of God. I must confess I went from being a nihilistic atheist to an edgy satanist, I then began following Asatru which if you don't know is a neo Pagan faith centered on the Norse gods and ancestral worship. While I was involved I began to realize how truly foolish these previous beliefs truly were. They all centered around a selfish individualistic view of the world and I was truly in a dark place. I came to reject all of these false hoods and begin to learn about God. It has truly impacted my life in profound ways and I am dissapointed in myself for rejecting His words for so long. I am trying to rectify my heathen, nihilistic, and edgy satanic past with becoming a Christian and acknowledging my definite blasphemous past. Its not an excuse but I have been sober since September 20th 2023. Once I was sober I begin to radically shift my thinking and life had meaning once more. My thoughts became way more clear and this I feel is when I began to seek God. How do I rectify my past spiritual failings with God? Any thoughts on this matter. Thank you

Tucker Carlson warns a 'spiritual battle' is under way in America — then he reveals its No. 1 target: 'Very obvious now'



Tucker Carlson believes the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is evidence of an ongoing "spiritual battle" in the United States. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention, Carlson shared his view that "deeper" forces, like evil, are behind attacks like the one that occurred at Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. "I think what happened on Saturday — the assassination attempt against President Trump — reminded a lot of people of this or awakened a lot of people to this," Carlson said on Monday.
"There is a spiritual battle under way," he added. "There is no logical way to understand what we're seeing now in temporal terms. You just can't. These are not political divides. There are forces — and they're very obvious now; they've decided, for whatever reason, to take off the mask — whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."

According to Carlson, the forces that he identified are "dedicated to the destruction of people," and he believes they have a common enemy: Christians.

Arizona Local News Anchor Interviews former colleague Kari Lake

A well-known Phoenix news anchor Mark Curitis interviews with his former colleauge - Kari Lake.

"At your speech in front of the RNC, you had a chance to address America at a time when America in many ways is dealing with the aftermath of the attempted (Trump) assassination, and yet you chose to attack the media rather than talk about coming together as a country. Don't you think political rhetoric like that is also damaging?" Curtis asked Lake. "I mean, this is an industry, Kari, that put food on your table for years."


Here is the entire, unedited interview (stick around until the end...)

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Miracles & Healings

There is a LOT we can investigate about SCIENCE and Miracles and Healing. So there really is NO REASON to drift off of that subject.

First of all Science depends a lot on research. The PROBLEM is they do not know HOW to set up a study. The basic belief is that the "miracle" has to go beyond what you can achieve though the placebo effect. My dad was an expert on this so I know about the power of suggestion and the power of positive thinking to bring about healing. Still we have to go beyond the placebo effect to establish something in science. Even though clearly there are advantages to the placebo effect and what people may perceive as being a miracle.

Second we have to look at what they call spontaneous remission.

"When cancer suddenly disappears, people may call it a miracle. But a recent study by three physician-researchers from DMS and Norway found that spontaneous remission of breast cancer is actually quite common. More than one in five invasive cancers detected in the study by mammography vanished without ever being treated."


So science does not use the word miracle, they use the term spontaneous remission. Or they will write it off to Psychology.

Spontaneous remission in psychology means that a symptom will be spontaneously reduced or disappear without any therapeutic intervention. Spontaneous remission mostly occurs when a person with depression or anxiety experiences the reduction.

We can go where people want to go, we just need to remember the forum we are on.

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THOMAS MATTHEW CROOKS TRUMP CAMPAIGN PROFILED FATHER

THOMAS MATTHEW CROOKSTRUMP CAMPAIGN PROFILED FATHER ...

MAGA Sign At Family Home

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Donald Trump's presidential campaign once profiled the father of attempted assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks ... identifying the guy as a strong Republican who was into guns.

Trump's 2016 campaign amassed a database of millions of voters in swing states and Matthew Brian Crooks was one of them ... with Trump's team determining he was a likely gun owner and "hunter" who would favorably respond to pro-gun rights messaging ... according to data first obtained and revealed by the UK's Channel 4 News.
The would-be assassin's mother, Mary, was profiled by Trump's 2016 campaign too apparently ... and she was also identified as a likely gun owner by campaign researchers.

And get this ... Trump's campaign database assigned scores to each of the 6.7 million Pennsylvania voters analyzed ahead of the 2016 election ... with the shooter's father scoring among the top 20 in their Bethel Park hometown in terms of pro-gun-related indicators. Crooks' father legally purchased the AR-15-style rifle his son used in Saturday's assassination attempt at Trump's rally in Butler, PA ... and TMC reportedly bought 50 bullets from a gun store on the morning of the shooting.
Thomas lived with his parents in Bethel Park ... and a neighbor told WPXI the Crooks family had pro-Trump and MAGA yard signs until recently. It's unclear if the seemingly pro-Trump affiliation applied to Thomas himself -- but on its face, it sounds like his parents liked DT.

The shooter's ex-classmates say he was nicknamed "school shooter" and would get bullied in class ... and he was such a poor shot he couldn't even make his school's rifle team. We're learning more about this guy every day ... but the picture isn't becoming much clearer on his motivation.

Biden tests positive for COVID --rushed back to Delaware from Nevada

I am. not sure a sitting president has ever had a worse 1-2 months than Biden at this point

and Schiff just declared that Biden should discontinue the campaign

I expect Biden to step do exactly that within a few days at this point --ot the 25th might get invoked.

httphttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/17/joe-biden-covid-00169176
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RNC Opens with Prayer to Ancient Demon

Hello folks. Today's news is very dark, but is important for Christians and atheists alike, and goes to show how both parties have corruption. The Republican National Convention had an opening prayer by Dhillon to an ancient entity, a false god named Waheguru today on July 17, 2024. Prayers for those who are misled by the world. Makes me wanna vote for the American Solidarity party, a centrist, Christian party which is pro-life and pro-environment, and it does not force religion on others. For reference, I was never a Republican, and have moved closer to the center from the left over the past few years, and especially over the past few months.

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Opening "prayer" to ancient demon: "Dear Waheguru, our one true God, we thank you for creating America as a unique haven on this Earth, where all people are free to worship according to their faith. We seek your blessings and guidance for our beloved country. Please bless our people with wisdom as they vote for the upcoming election and please bless with humility, honesty, skill and integrity all those who conduct the election".

Info about Waheguru: Beliefs about God - Waheguru (God) and authority - Edexcel - GCSE Religious Studies Revision - Edexcel - BBC Bitesize

American Solidarity party: American Solidarity Party - Wikipedia

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