Hello,

I'm a single guy in my 30's who's returned to the Roman Catholic Church after being away for many years. I've attended mass a few times, I've gone to confession twice, and I've taken the Eucharist once. I've also been trying to study the Bible, too. However, I've already become exhausted. There are so many rules and regulations within Catholicism, and while I appreciate the conciseness of it, along with the tradition and many holidays and celebrations it has, plus the absolute reverence and serious and plain take it has on the Eucharist, I feel so bogged down by the dogma, specifically mandatory confession for the removal of mortal sins. I think I may suffer from scrupulosity, so I feel like I always have to be "good enough" or "perfect" to follow God. I try to catch myself before I sin, or I see sin everywhere when there is none. I've been watching Youtube videos on this topic from priests and lay people, and that's helped, but there's always something in the back of my mind that tells me to be perfect or otherwise I should just give up.

I'm also gay, and I know what the Bible says and what the Catholic Church teaches about homosexuality. I'm not here to debate that, but it does contribute to exhausting me out because I constantly feel like I'm not good enough to be in a relationship with God because of it. It's like I have this stain on me that blocks me from having a relationship with God. For context, I have not had any sexual relations with men (or women for that matter) for at least a year, if not more. There's just this voice inside of my head that says it's not even worth trying to follow God if I have this one thing that's in the way. I know I can't change my sexual feelings and desires, and part of me is coming around to the idea that having sex with men may not be natural and against God's order, or at the very least there is no value in it (I know the bible says it IS sinful and unnatural, but I haven't within myself aligned with this yet), and I think that if I truly didn't care about what God wants from me, I would still be living in sin and giving myself to men, but I don't know what to do with all of that if I will always be gay (meaning I will always feel attracted to men and not women).

All of that is to say, do I leave Catholicism to join a Protestant denomination that does not hold to venial/mortal sins, and one that does not interpret the Bible as condemning same sex relationships? I love Catholicism because it's where I grew up. I went to Catholic school, I was an altar server, and there is so much beauty and truth in it, but I'm just so confused. This is why I decided to join the forum. I need to speak with others about this and listen to their opinions. I also want to form sincere friendships with other Catholics and Christians that are not a part of the progressive movement going on in Christianity because there is so much of it that I don't agree with.

Thank you for reading this.

Mt 19:

16 Behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” 17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 20The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

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Why didn't Jesus tell the man plainly about saving by grace as Paul did later?

1. Jesus met the man where he was spiritually, using the law to expose his sin and self-righteousness.
2. Jesus’ teaching style often involved indirect revelation, inviting people to wrestle with their own hearts.
3. Grace was implicit in Jesus’ invitation to follow Him, though the man failed to accept it.
4. Grace is best understood when we recognize our inability to save ourselves.
5. The full revelation of grace through faith was still unfolding and would be more fully explained after Jesus’ resurrection.

Jesus didn’t explicitly mention grace in this conversation because He was addressing the man’s self-reliance and love of wealth. The encounter ultimately highlighted the impossibility of earning salvation and the necessity of divine grace. The rich young ruler needed to acknowledge his spiritual poverty before he could receive the free gift of salvation (Matthew 5:3). Jesus’ method here aligns with His broader teaching that one must "deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me" (Matthew 16:24)—a call that demands humility and dependence on God’s grace.

It's getting difficult to even know what tariffs are in place in Canada at this point. Trump has turned tariffs on and off, what are we on, about 3 or 4 times now?

It seems reasonable to ask this question.

I am NOT asking about what Trump wants. IT's been outlined MANY times...he wants to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. That is his VISION.

This poll and thread are about whether you believe he actually has a PLAN or if he's making it up as he goes along.

His own people are unaware of what is happenning.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/business/trump-top-trade-official-testifies-house-tariffs/index.html

If you DO believe he has a plan, I'm curious to hear how you believe the "on again off again tariffs" strategy is meant to further his plan.

When tears flowed.
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it. Luke 19:41

Why the tears flowed.


For the days will come upon you when your enemies will barricade you and surround you and hem you in on every side.
They will level you to the ground - you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation from God.”
Luke 19:43, 44

Why does Jesus weep at the scene he foresees, of wayward Jews being slayed, along with their children?
Jesus says, they brought it on themselves, yet, Jesus wept.... Literally shed tears, at the destruction these ones would suffered.
Why?

What does this tell us about God's feelings - his pain of heart over those who suffer... even wayward ones?

Responding to a question at Tuesday’s daily briefing, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt mentioned President Donald Trump’s “idea” to potentially deport “violent” and “heinous” U.S. citizens, adding a seemingly important caveat: “If it’s legal.”

It’s not.

The Quiet Revival: Gen Z leads rise in church attendance - Church attendance on the rise....

‘The Quiet Revival’: huge increase in young people attending church - Religion Media Centre - "This revival is most evident in Catholicism and Pentecostalism, although the survey reveals a noticeable decline in popularity for the Church of England. Of those in the older Millennials category, 35 per cent say they are Catholic, 11 per cent are Pentecostal and 25 per cent identify as Anglican." - but not the C of E.

I wonder why people want church again?

I could guess, but I do also wonder if they will ask people what is unattractive about the C of E...

What is the Christian Philosophy and What are Christian Ethics

1) If you were asked to provide a single thesis statement defining or describing the "Christian philosophy," what would be your version of that statement? Try wording it in a single sentence but, for the sake of this discussion, I'll allow but limit the definition to one to three sentences.

2) Using the definition provided, what would you list as the basic points of Christian ethics. List the principles you think qualify as the ethics of Christianity. For the sake of this thread let's make the list at one to ten principles in length.

Please do not merely quote scripture unless the verse quoted explicitly uses the word "ethic." Use scripture to support any statement by citing the text reference in parentheses ().

Here is an example of what I am requesting using US political conservativism:

Thesis statement:

Conservatism is a political philosophy that seeks to preserve what has proven to work in society.

Ethical Principles:

1. Following the Rule of Law with the Constitution being the chief authoritative statement of that Law.
2. Mistrust of Power
3. Limited federal government, as stipulated by the Constitution.
4. Majority rule with an obligation to preserve and protect the rights of any minority.
5. Fiscal responsibility.
6. Change effected gradually based on what has previously proven to work, specified goals, and confined to the stipulations of the Constitution.
7. Reliance on all the institutions of society as viable agents of change rather than a sole reliance on the government as the chief agent of change.

I could make that list a little longer but that will serve as an illustrative example for what is being requested in this op. The point being that policies are not principles. Policies are governed by principles, not the other way around. Maintaining a balanced budget is not a principle; it's a policy arrived at through the application of already existing principles. Deciding whether or not to implement law prohibiting panhandling on traffic medians is not something a conservative would/should support if there already exist laws prohibiting that conduct. This is because there is a governing principle that restricts the expansion of government and the enforcement of existing laws over the addition of new laws that are unnecessary.

And please do not get distracted by this example. This op is about Christian philosophy and Christian ethics in the Christian Philosophy & Ethics board. Feel free to quote my content and paste it into an op in the Politics board. Have that discussion there. Thank you.



What is a thesis statement describing or defining Christian philosophy, and what are some of the basic, fundamental ethical principles thereof?

Can you please pray for me? Waiting for surgery now. Pray everything goes smoothly.

Thank you!

This is the government I know.

For most Christians with any knowledge of the people who live and work in their community, the answer to the question “Are we more biblically illiterate than ever?” seems obvious: of course we are. You may not know that statistical evidence backs up your anecdotal belief. Surveys are helpful in potentially increasing our already firm conviction and providing a deeper understanding of growing societal unbelief. That is precisely the aim of this brief article, which will examine a few more extensive surveys that chart and track biblical literacy over time for both the US populace and professing Evangelicals as a demographic.

One thing to note about our titular question is that everyone has a different definition of biblical literacy. Is it reading the Bible a few times a year? Is it knowing Bible facts? Is it knowing how someone can be saved by grace through faith in Christ? Is it professing the fundamental doctrinal truths Christians have professed for hundreds of years? Even polling organizations don’t have a single definition. To summarize some of the statistical data, we’ll define biblical literacy in two ways: biblical knowledge and theological accuracy.

Biblical literacy as biblical knowledge

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Our knight in shining armor, defending the fnancial solvency of the 99%, is an unlikely hero--Charles Koch, financier of almost every Republican legislator in the country.

He's suing over tariffs. What great news! Trump's obedient legislators, voting in lockstep with his every wish, will now have to decide: "Who will I vote with? The president, who is becoming more unpopular by the hour but who could threaten to primary me, or Charles Koch, whose deep pockets have kept me in Congress for years?"

Of course, they'll choose Koch, and hopefully take back their rightful power to rescind the tariffs!

MSN

"A tariff is a tax on Americans’ commerce with other countries," the New Civil Liberties Alliance wrote in its legal complaint, filed on behalf of Simplified, a Florida-based business that sells organizational tools such as paper-made planners. "The Constitution assigns Congress exclusive power to impose tariffs and regulate foreign commerce."

The New Civil Liberties Alliance, which is affiliated with prominent right-wing legal activist Leonard Leo's network, describes its mission as combatting "unlawful administrative power."

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And so even in the unlikely event that the Courts would rule against Koch's eminent common sense, the politicians he's financed for generations will abandon Trump.

This is the first good economic news I've heard in weeks!

In the runup to the 2020 election, a small right wing news organization called the Epoch Times saw an opportunity and seized it. They directed millions of dollars in advertising toward supporting the Trump campaign and published dozens of articles in it's newspaper parroting almost every Trump talking point. They published so many stories that proved untruthful that they were banned from advertising on Facebook, but that didn't deter the far right faithful who flocked to support the organization. Now, what started some 20 odd years ago as a small, insignificant organization primarily geared toward a campaign against the CCP, had become one of the country's most successful and influential right wing conservative news organizations. They were the #2 poster of pro-Trump ads (behind only the Trump campaign) on Facebook before being banned. The Epoch Media Group also operates the New Tang Dynasty (NTD) television network.

According to their tax documents, between 2019 and 2021 their revenue grew by 685%. Their unwavering support of the Trump campaign brought them a bonanza of contributions from big money right wing supporters and they now claim to be the country's 4th largest newspaper by subscriber count. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. calls it one of his most trusted news sources. Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) recited the history of the Epoch Times into the Congressional Record.

As a nonprofit, The Epoch Times is exempt from most federal taxes. Its mission, according to tax filings, is independent journalism, “outside of political interests and the pursuit of profit, for the public benefit and to be truly responsible to society.” Many on the left have decried that the organization has become a right wing PAC and should register as such but authorities have yet to look into the issue.

In recent years the Epoch Times has denied any affiliation with the Falun Gong despite the two groups ongoing financial and organizational ties and the fact that the entire Epoch Times board members and most staff are Falun Gong practitioners. The non-profits behind both organizations share executives and provide grants and services to each other, according to tax filings. And the newspaper, along with it's digital production company and the heavily advertised dance troupe Shen Yun, make up a nonprofit network that the leader of the religious movement calls “our media.”

So, who is the Epoch Times and who controls it? The Falun Gong (or Falun Dafa) are a religious organization that has been persecuted by the CCP for decades. The Epoch Times was formed by members of the Falun Gong in 2000 as a small, free propaganda newsletter, in opposition to the CCP. Falun Gong literally means "Practice of the Law Wheel" (Dharma Chakra) which refers to a series of five meditative exercises aimed at channeling and harmonizing the "qi" or vital energy. The Falun Gong is based on the teachings of Li Hongzhi. He first published what has become the groups "canon", in two books the "Teachings of Falun Gong" in China in 1992 and Zhuan Falun" in 1993. Followers consider his writings sacred. They cover a range of topics from spiritual, scientific and moral issues to the metaphysical. Translated their core principles are supposedly based on truthfulness, benevolence and forebearance. The term "Falun" or Buddha Fa, is a great high level of the "Buddha School" in which "assimilation to the supreme nature of the universe" is the foundation of their practice. In this concept, one must practice to upgrade one's mind and nature by abandoning "negative attachments" and "assimilating oneself to Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance". The term "Practice" refers to the five meditative exercises that are said to purify and transform one's body. Li asserts that this world is beset with evil, disease, and immorality and only under his guidance can one attain perfect health and personal salvation.

The teachings of Falun Gong makes a distinction between fojia, Buddha School, and fojiao, the religion of Buddhism as well as between the Dao School (daojia) and the religion of Daoism. Falun Gong incorporates their own version of each. Thay incorporate the practices of Qigong that involves movements and/or poses combined with controled breathing in the pursuit of spiritual "transcendence". Li also teaches the segreation of the races and rejects modern medicine.

From the beginning, Li has asserted his absolute authority over the transmission of the teachings and the use of healing powers of Falun Gong: he said in Changchun that only he is possessed of these right, and any who violate are to be expelled. Falun Gong practitioners see Li Hongzhi as the "enlightened teacher" or master whose writings and teachings carry unique spiritual authority. Some have said that Li claims top be the "sovereign god whose Fa powers are thousands of times stronger than that of Sakyamuni and Jesus Christ". I can't seem to find a specific quote where he said this, so make of iy what you will.

Even before stepping into the political limelight, Falun Gong attracted a good deal of public attention. Its popularity has steadily grown at a grassroots level, not only in China, but also in countries such as Australia, Canada, Switzerland, and the United States. It has undergone an unprecedented period of growth since becoming involved in US politics.

So, how did such an organiztion become so intertwined in American politics and why have so many right wingers, including many Evangelicals, been so swayed by them? Does anyone have any insights?

I know this is a long passage of Scripture, but there is not any good way to divide this up and to maintain the context of what it is teaching us. And this is about Jesus Christ and who he was and is. So here are the highlights:


Jesus (the Christ) is the only begotten Son of God, born to the virgin Mary, conceived of the Holy Spirit. So while he lived on the earth he was fully God and fully human (God incarnate). Since he was not born of man, but of the Spirit, he was not born with a sin nature as we are, and even though he was tempted to sin, in like manner as we are tempted to sin, he never sinned, not once! He remained perfect and holy. And he became our sacrificial lamb on that cross to put our sins to death with him so we can die to our sins.

While he lived on the earth (as both fully God and fully human) he healed the sick and afflicted, raised the dead, delivered people from demons, fed the hungry, comforted the sorrowful, and performed many miracles. He also preached repentance (death to sin) and obedience to God as necessary components of faith in him which will result in deliverance from slavery to sin and eternal life with God, provided that we continue in our walks of faith in dying to sin and in obeying his commands as a matter of life practice.

But he was hated by the religious rulers and people of influence within the temple of God, and in some of the synagogues, who were Jews by birth. They didn’t like it that he claimed to be God, and that he performed all those miracles, and that crowds followed him, and that he healed people on the Sabbath, and that he did not bow to their traditions, and that he spoke truth to them about their own sinful practices. And so they plotted and had carried out his death on a cross, which is what brought us salvation from sin.

But he did not remain dead. God the Father raised him from the dead on the third day, as Jesus had said would happen. And because Jesus lives we can now, not only die to sin, but live to him and to his righteousness in walks of obedience to his commands in holy living. For he taught that to follow him means self-denial, death to sin, and walks of obedience to his commands. But if we do not deny self, die to sin, and walk in obedience to his commands, in practice, we will not inherit eternal life with God. The truth!

So, believe God! Believe what the Scriptures teach (IN CONTEXT) and not out of context. Study them for yourselves in context so that you know what they teach, in truth. For many liars are teaching a false gospel based off Scriptures taught out of their appropriate context, and they are twisting those words to convince many people that lip service only is all that is required of them and that they do not have to put sin to death and make obedience to God their practice. But that is a lie straight from hell!

[Is 53:1-12; Mat 7:21-23; Mat 26:26-29; Lu 9:23-26; Lu 17:25; Jn 1:1-36; Jn 6:35-58; Jn 8:24,58; Jn 10:27-33; Jn 20:28-29; Rom 5:8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; Rom 9:5; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 11:23-32; 1 Co 15:1-8; 2 Co 5:15,21; Eph 4:17-24; Php 2:5-11; Col 2:9; Tit 2:11-14; Heb 1:8-9; Heb 2:14-15; Heb 4:15; 1 Pet 1:20-21; 1 Pet 2:24; 2 Pet 1:1; 1 Jn 3:4-10]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1

As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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Jesus Christ is God the Son
An Original Work / April 9, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

The amount of money that cartels took in for human trafficking due to the Biden administration policies is staggering. That means they will not be an easy force to defeat. The views of the Mexican president are not much of a factor in an American decision.

Oh well, what’s a few more dead brown people?

In response to questions from Reuters, U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement that immigrants in the U.S. illegally should use a mobile app formerly known as CBP One - rebranded as CBP Home under Trump - to "self deport and leave the country now."

It will save them a lot of money if they just self-deport. They should be urged by all to do so.

Shalom



Could you please pray for our brother Roland?



Roland is a very faithful servant of the Lord Jesus and even serves internationally, where healings and conversions also happens.



Unfortunately, his business isn't doing so well at the moment, and I ask for prayers for that?

And also for his wife, who is Catholic, so that she may have a vibrant relationship with the Lord Jesus.



"Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers!" 3 John 2



Thank you for your prayers!



May the Lord bless you abundantly (Luke 6:38, Job 42:10) and bless Israel in Jesus' name. Amen!



Sole Deo Gloria



PS And I pray that the Lord will send out harvesters into his harvest (Matthew 9:38).

Three days ago, Musk proposed ZERO tariffs between the US and the EU (a trade free zone).

Musk has called out Novarro (the author of Trump's tariff policy) for the craziness of the tariffs, especially those on trade deficit.
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The billionaires know how crazy this is. Maybe Trump will listen to one of them. He aleady has stepped back many times.
A couple of day ago, he said that there would be no negotiations. This morning said that there would be no delay. We'll see.
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Of course, prices will go up even if the tariffs are only on autos, aluminum, steel and China. And that is a long, long way back from where Trump is.

For example, reducing EU tariffs to zero would help, but would just be a drop in the bucket of increases.

Even if folks got what they "want", an elimination of the taxes on individual countries except China, the above listed tariffs plus the 10% accrosse the board tariffs would still likely to cause a recession; prices would certainly go up considerably.
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I HAVE A SERIOUS TRADE DEFICIT WITH MY GROCERY STORE
I buy lots from my grocery store, and the store buys nothing from me. THEY ARE RIPPING ME OFF!
The US buys lots from Vietnam and Vietnam buys little from us. VIETNAM IS RIPPING US OFF!

I have an MBA in Finance. I have studied some of these issues some over the past 60 years. This is worst policy I've ever seen.

Trump has always supported tariffs, but this idea is new. It really doesn't matter where Trump got this particular idea. However, it is all based on crackpot named Navarro who published books and articles on the trade deficit relying on the studies of the non-existent economist Vera, invented by Novarro.

I INVITE folks to direct us to books and articles by economists who support the idea of tariffs based on trade deficits.

I'm starting to realize my rumination, intrusive thoughts and images are a part of OCD.

I know I need to do something before it gets out of hand but I'm afraid to try meds..im afraid they'll make me worse, I'm just afraid of worse case scenario..

How do I take that leap of faith?

Same old, same old.

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[Verse 1]
Wake up, wake up, the time has come
Don't rest, don't wait, it has begun
Ready the weapon of praise
Blood moon, blood red, blood down His robe
Blood of the Lamb has overcome

[Chorus]
Ready the weapon of praise
I see the Heavens
I'm seeing sevens in the sky
Time of the beast is growing nigh
We're gonna make it out alive
I see the Heavens
Lеgions of angels in the night
Wipe off thе slumber off your eyes
We're gonna make it out alive
Ready the weapon of praise
Ready the weapon of praise
Ready the weapon of praise

[Verse 2]
That serpent's scared, he's seen the grave
No rest in peace, just fire and flames
Who rolled the stone, who holds the throne
Trumpets will sound, the world will know



[Chorus]
Ready the weapon of praise
I see the Heavens
I'm seeing sevens in the sky
Time of the beast is growing nigh
We're gonna make it out alive
'Cause I see the Heavens
Legions of angels in the night
Wipe off the slumber off your eyes
We're gonna make it out alive
Ready the weapon of praise, ready the weapon of praise
Ready the weapon of praise

[Bridge]
Seven heads, seven scrolls
Seven seals, seven bows
Seven stars, seven times seventy
I'm seeing sevens in the sky
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven signs
Heaven rule, Heaven reign
Heaven soon, Heaven stay
Heaven fall, Heaven come heal it all
I'm seeing Heaven in the sky
We're gonna make it out alive
Rally the angels, ready for war
He's riding a stallion, make way for the Lord
His word is a weapon, His tongue is a sword
The God of the whisper is the God of the roar

Δτᵢ = (x ᵢ - m ᵢ)/ ε.ψ.mᵢ.

Δτᵢ is the tariff adjustment for trade between America and country i.
xᵢ are the exports from America to country i.
mᵢ are the imports from country i to America.
ε is the demand elasticity which is the market response when import demand is decreased due to tariffs. Typically costs will increase by a certain percentage of the tariff.
Ψ is the supply elasticity which is the market response when export demand is increased due to the effect of tariffs on imports. Costs can increase due to capacity and supply issues.

The formula is unsound as the most obvious is countries which have a trade deficit with the US are subject to tariffs which conveniently turns out to being 10%.
The other absurdity is the Grand Assembly of Imbeciles commonly called the White House has set ε = 4 and ψ = 1/4 (why?) across the board meaning ε.ψ =1 and the formula reduces to Δτᵢ = (x ᵢ - m ᵢ)/mᵢ.
As some economists and mathematicians have pointed out, the White House seems to think sticking a couple of unnecessary Greek characters into the formula gives it a much more sophisticated and complex appearance.

The selection of ε = 4 and ψ = 1/4 is at the very least debatable, some economists have stated to give it an appearance of realism is to have ε = 4 and ψ = 1 which will reduce the imposed tariffs on countries by a factor of 4.
The White House is now engaging in a finger pointing exercise as no one is taking responsibility for the derivation of the formula.

Here is a video on this nonsense formula.

I'm having constant stomach and eye pain can you please pray that it goes away

It can go either direction, but I'm going to assign genders here, just to make it easier to write.

Husband already has his mind made up he's going to do something. The exact something isn't important. Shaving off his mustache, changing jobs, selling the car, grilling steaks out in the back yard, any action at all, he already knows that's what he's going to do. Whatever his wife has to say on the subject is not going to change his decision in the slightest. It's a done deal. Case closed. Not negotiable.

So why would he bother approaching his wife and asking her opinion about it? "Would you mind if I...." "How would you feel about it if I..."

Seems to me if his mind is already made up, but he wants her to know he's doing it, he should simply inform her that he's doing it. Let's not pretend to care about what she thinks, by asking what she thinks. Just tell her what you're going to do.

"Do you mind if I do XYZ? Oh, you do mind? You don't like it? Well, tough cookies, I'm doing XYZ anyway."
"Then why did you even ask me what I thought about it?"
"Because I care about your opinion."

The words and actions are not meshing here. How can you care about something on one hand, and completely disregard it on the other? Can anybody please help me make it make sense? I'm facing accusations of having a "my way or the highway" attitude, just because I'm upset that my (asked for) opinion didn't make a shred of difference in the decision making. I'm not saying he shouldn't do whatever he wants to do, if that's what he wants to do. I'm not trying to control him. I'm simply trying to say from now on, don't ask me my opinion, unless my opinion is going to actually carry some kind of weight. He doesn't seem to understand. He keeps trying to tell me my opinion does matter, even while he's totally shoving it aside and ignoring it.

Summing up, if you've already decided, then don't ask me. Tell me. Do you agree or disagree?

And just out of curiosity, flip the genders, and would you still agree or disagree?

And some believe in a POST TRIBULATION and sone are a MID-TREB .

And in 1 thess 1:10 says , AND // KAI -- is a CONJUCATION

# 2 TO WAIT FOR // ANAENO , is im the Greek Present Tense , ACTIVE VOICE

# 3 HIS // AUTOS - PERSONEL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Greek GENITIVE CASE -in the SINGULAR

# 4 SON // HUIOS , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE in the SIGNULAR

# 5 FROM // EK , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 6 HEAVEN // OURANOS , in the GENITIVE CASE , in the PLURAL

# 7 WHOM // HOS in a RELATIVE PRONOUN , ACCUSATIVE CASE in the SLINGULAR

# 8 HE RAISED // EGEIRO , in the Greek AORIST TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , meaning you better believe it , in the SIGULAR

# 9 FROM // EK , is an AORIST TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , in the SINGULAR

# 10 THE DEAD // NEKROS , in the GENITIVE CASE

# 11 JESUS // in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 12 WHICH // HO , DFINITE ARTICLE , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SIGNULAR

# 13 DELIVERED // RYOMAI , in the Greek PRESENT TENSE , MIDDLE VOICE , PASSIVE VOICE , and a PARTICIPLE

# 14 US // HEMAS , PERSONAL PROSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in a ACCUSATIVE CASE , in a PLURAL

# 15 FROM // APO , is a PREPOSITION

# 16 THE // a DEFINITE ARTICLE in the GENTIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 17 WRATH // ORGE , in the GENITIVE CASE , IN THE SIGNULAR

# 18 TO COME // ERCHOMAI , in the PRESENT TENSE and in the MIDDLE or PASSIVE VOICE , a PARTICIPLE , GENITIVE CASE , in the SIGNULAR

#19 But the APOSTLE Paul says different as Paul is PRE-TRI !!

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