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All-American Muslim

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by DaisyDay, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. USincognito

    USincognito Stop QWERTYface! Supporter

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    point [ˈpɔɪnt]

    4. A topic of discussion or debate; a proposition, a focus of conversation or consideration.
     
  2. PHenry42

    PHenry42 Newbie

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    I don't need to refute anything, as you offer no substantiation to begin with for anything you say.

    Besides, it's not a changing of the subject, it's a refutation by counterexample. If the statement is equally true when changing Islam for Christianity word for word, the logical conclusion is that if your methodology is true, it damns your religion equally much. So you might want to reconsider the validity of that methodology, or change religion.
     
  3. PHenry42

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    Feel free to practice your strictly peaceful religion by turning the other cheek when I cut off your head :p
     
  4. EdwinWillers

    EdwinWillers Buh bye!

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    The :p doesn't exactly mitigate the inappropriateness of this comment.
     
  5. DaisyDay

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    If the moon were made of green cheese, it would be eaten by mice.

    Well, except those Americans who do worship "Allah". Since "Allah" means "God" and refers to the god of Abraham, then that would also include Christians and Jews to be spared (Watch out, atheists! and Hindus! and Buddhists!). But that is not what "jihad" is to most Muslims; the word means "struggle" which more take to mean a personal struggle with faith and clean living than to conquer the world.

    See, the Muslims in this show don't have that attitude, at all. Strangely, it is exactly this very lack of terrorism that the FAA objects to, that they are a normal, all-American family.
     
  6. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
    And, for those with more reading time ...
    Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
    It is worth noting here that those who worship the beast are not found in the Lamb's book of life - an admonition, no doubt, to choose wisely.

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    The real problem is the Florida Family Association and David Caton's hatred for freedom and capitalism in America. There is a high probability that this guy turns out to be addicted to porn or a closet gay. He fits the profile to a tee.
     
  8. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus I AM WHAT I AM

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    Then I would fit right in with them :)

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  9. Elgibbor

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    Islamophobia is rife among extreme right wing Christians. Well, i say Christians...........
     
  10. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    What scares me is the fact that the Muslims on this forum consistently refuse to discuss Sharia law or the Caliphate. Weird ...


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  11. Elgibbor

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    Why let it scare you? It's never going to come to America. And what they do in their own countries is their own business.
     
  12. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    Already has ...

    Denial is not a rational answer.
    Like the holocaust?

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  13. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

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    You know they disagree among themselves about those things, right? The Caliphate is the cause of the major schism in Islam.

    Shari'a is interpreted primarily by culture more than by scripture, much as the same as Hebrew and Christian laws have been; it is not the same from place to place, from culture to culture. Unfortunately, certain right-wingers take the worst of the extreme and present it as typical. That is weird




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  14. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

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    No, not really - it was specifically against Beck and his crazy rantings and counter-factual history, not all conservatives. Surely you are not claiming that Beck is typical of conservatives, that they are all looney-tuney money-grubbers?


    The FAA is against this show because it presents some Muslims as being all-American, non-terrorists (seriously). The group that protested Beck didn't like his misrepresenting them, the ones protesting, as un-American traitors. You really don't see the difference?:confused:
     
  15. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    I suspect it terrifies many of them.

    LOL ... I don't know about that ... there seem to be many schisms ...

    FACT -- Sharia law operates to varying degrees in some major European cities. The impetus is for ever greater Sharia influence and control.

    Instances involving "Sharia" law are already entering the US legal system. It would be worthwhile to discuss the implications and repurcussions to see if they are acceptable to US citizens.

    Perhaps not nearly so weird as your absolute denialism ... acting as if these matters were of no consequence.


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  16. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

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    Maybe - what are you talking about, specifically?

    Try the first one, eh.


    What are you talking about? Perhaps you could be a little more vague.

    What instances do you mean? Name a few, then we can discuss them.

    For the most part, they are not of any real consequence. So far, all you have done is make vague yet fearsome generalities that have no practical meaning that I can discern.

    Oh, points for the disingenuous accusation of "absolute denialism" (denialism of what exactly?)



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    I haven't read this entire thread yet, but has anyone pointed out what a sad statement about our culture it is that crap like Jersey Shore is celebrated and yet a show about normal American citizens doing normal American citizen things is greeted with hostility simply because those citizens are Muslim?
     
  18. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    LOL ... you tell me. You said in the prior post:
    So ... what are you questioning now?

    Whatever ...

    Glad to spell it out for you, DaisyDay. :wave:

    Here's one readable account from Brussels discussing various European cities: Eurabian Safari | The Brussels Journal
    In effect, Islamic or Sharia law is already applied – for everyone – in the Muslim areas of Brussels.
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    Some friends in Brussels organize one-hour trips through Molenbeek. They go in an inconspicuous car, driven by a local who knows the escape routes, and with a bodyguard. Otherwise the risk would be too great. These trips are called “safaris.” Similar “Eurabia safaris” are organized in other European cities. One of the highlights – though absolutely not the most dangerous one – of the safari in Rosengaard, the Muslim section of the Swedish city of Malmö, is a short stop, to give the visitor the opportunity to take a quick snapshot, in front of Malmö’s “Jihadskörkortsteori” (Jihad Driving School).
    I seem to recall that you and I have previously discussed Sharia law in sections of London ... so I won't repeat that.

    I've posted several instances previously, DaisyDay ... cases exist in Oklahoma, Michigan and other places. A quick Google or Bing search should bring them up. How about we talk about Sharia law in Europe first though. It offers a useful precursor to what is likely to happen in the USA.


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    That is an irrational fear. You guys seem to be wound to tight. All Muslims are not out to get you.
     
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    JustMeSee Contributor

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    No, but that is very telling, considering the irresponsible sexual and social behaviors of the 'people' in the Jersey Shore.
     
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