Can you back this up?
We already posted the classic etymology of the Arabic word "allah"...
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Can you back this up?
Right here:
Notice the words bolded in red. They all speak of the singular, so it is clear that the Hectate is one Goddess.
We already posted the classic etymology of the Arabic word "allah"...
Which has nothing to do with what pre-Islam pagans believed in regards to what Muslims believe.
So...three faces make up the Biblical Trinity...?
Not once at your googled website does it state anything about each entity simultaneously being the one creator God of the Universe.
In fact, not a single solitary reference is given at the website, nor any of the ancient languages used.
Can you google a more scholarly website next time around...?
So you are a senior member, and this is what consitutes your "logic". Let me ask you this: Do you know what logic is?
Right Christianity definately took some liberties when they built upon the already exsisting Pagan beliefs. If they did not, it would be the same thing, rather than something different.
WOW. Great logic there.
What scholarly sites do you frequent?
Be honest with yourself...
Come back when you can google something of merit that actually uses verifiable references...
dnihila,
Now that your very own googled sources claim that "allah" was the same god as that of the pagan Arabs, you need to prove to us that the god "allah" of the Koran is anything other than that same pagan Arab god dressed up to look like the true Biblical creator God.
Have fun with that one...
Hi dnihila,
Adam and Eve didn't have a religion nor should anyone, religion is anti-God. Adam & Eve had the benefit of the actual presence of Almighty God amongst them and a few simple rules to obey in which of course they failed miseribly to do so.
So, you are saying that we should have no rules to follow. Then you are against any other rules that humans are making!!! If you just pass the cross road and the traffic light was red, you have to pay money cause you put yourself and the others in danger. This is about our life and the things we see. People die everyday and we have not a single clue about where they exactly go after death. They are buried but where are there souls? Or it is only about the things that we hear and we see. Then I didn't see prophet Muhammed, prophet Jesus, prophet Moses ( peace be upon them all) Don't I believe in them. But I read the Holy Quran and I believe in it and I also read some parts of the Holy Book and I believe in the similarities between both Holy Books. I believe in Allah/God although I didn't see Him but I can see His miracles, His creations filling the world and I can see His anger. And the bad thing is that people can't help making new lies everyday and never get tired of blaming it on mother nature and any other humanish causes that they can stick to but to say that there is a God that we should worship and follow His commands, I guess some are not ready to confess.
Of course the Orthodox Church love to preach that Adam & Eve are in hell now or at least some limbo somewhere awaiting there eternal burning for never knowing a Jesus who wasn't even born yet for a few millenia. Of course the truth is Adam & Eve will get there chance to confess and kneal before Jesus professing him Lord, all mankind will.
Without Adam and Eve being created ,prophet Jesus ( peace be upon him) won't be created neither Mary ( peace be upon her) nor any other prophet or any other human being. The Holy Book also didn't mention that Jesus ( peace be upon him ) will go to hell and ask the punished people to believe in him after being punished which means that the punishment is eternal and there chance is gone as long as you are saying that Adam and Eve will say that Jesus is a god.
If the ability to be a god is given once to human kind then for sure to keep the balance there won't be only a male god but there will be a female godess like prophet Jesus ( peace be upon him) and also this will increase the chance to have another holy human as a god. If this happened once then it could happen again with another person. Don't you believe in the circle of life????
Do you think that God the Almighty forgot about Moses ( peace be upon him) and decided to reveal Himself in front of Sons of Isreal at Mary's time ( peace be upon her)?? The ones who were guilty for saying that Mary ( peace be upon her) comitted adultry and they are the same people who wanted to kill Jesus ( peace be upon him)?? Do you think that God will give them the honour of that?
Allah/God is One. He has niether a son and nor a daughter. Otherwise, we should look for the Almighty's daughter if He can have a son why not having a daughter???
May Allah forgive me first of mentioning this example but things should be clear to everyone by using the critical thinking. It is true that Jesus ( peace be upon him ) is coming down from heaven to kill the anti-christ, to kill the pig and to break the cross as an evidence that he wasn't crossified and to show people that eating the pig is forbidden and to save the believers from the anti-christ's danger.
Tell me where in the bible that it says after you die there is no redemption? Take your time, I won't hold my breath though,lol. God bless.
Interesting.
Thank you for giving me something to have fun about and it is not only fun but it is an honour to be given to me to talk about my Creator Allah( in Arabic language)/God ( in English language).
What you didn't notice is that we are talking about Arabs which means that we are talking about Arabic language, right.
Then in the research it says pagan Meccan and who are the Meccan people? They are the people who live in Mecca and where is Mecca? It is in the Arabian peninsula.So they are Arab native speakers. So for sure they will use the Arabic word الله for God which is Allah if we use the English language alphabet. And it is also mentioned that they admit that there is a Creator but they used mediums to contact with the Great Creator who is Allah.
People around the world use the word god. But do you believe that buddah is God? Cause they also call him god? And the cow people worship in India. It's there godess or god but do we say that there god is ours.
It is only a name used in the spoken language to refer to your belief in the god you believe in.
Adam and Eve never exsisted. So they never had a religion. Adam and Eve were created by Jews as an explaination for a question that didn't have an answer. So they made up an answer. Then they wrote it in a book. Some people called this history. This is not history however. It is a myth. Just like all myths, it's not real.
The Bible has been wrong all along.
Thanks for your reply...
Most Muslims feel that they worship the same God as Christians....and they talk as if they were the same...however, nothing could be farther from the truth...
The "allah" of the Koran is not the God of the Holy Bible.
As a Muslim I believe in Allah/God the Creator like any other faithful Christian. look at this:
http://www.holybible.com/resources/KJV_DFND/index.php?Book=67&mode=4&BookTitle=Genesis&Chapter=1
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Defenders Notes >> Defenders Notes >>http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/QURAN/7.htm
You as a Christian can't tell the difference between Allah/God the Creator and Jesus the prophet??
Or are you trying to convince me that Jesus ( peace be upon him) created the world and then he was born again. Because that's not what the Holy Book is telling everyone about.
2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Defenders Notes >> Defenders Notes >> Defenders Notes >>
God in the Holy Book is talking about Himself creating a man. How then you are saying that Jesus( peace be upon him) as the son of Mary ( peace be upon her) is god. This is not what is mentioned in there. This verse from the Holy Book is similar to what we have in the Holy Quran.
27. O ye Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame: for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them: We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith.
And look at this verse from the Holy Quran:
35. We said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."
And look at this verse from the Holy Book:
2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. Defenders Notes >>
2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Defenders Notes >> Defenders Notes >>
The answer to that is what is poured into the meaning when you use the term "God".
What comes to your mind when you think of God?
Is it the mental image that you get from reading the Koran...or the mental image that you get from reading the Holy Bible?
For they are indeed not the same at all, as described within the original languages.
The "allah" of the Koran is no more than a false god dressed-up to mimic the true Biblical creator God, Jesus Christ.
A false god such as the Koranic "allah" has no power to create, and thus you never read in the Koran that he states in the first-person singular that he created anything at all.
Adam and Eve never existed??
Then who is the first human on earth?
Don't tell me it was an ape? Cause this is the most ridiculus thing I have ever heard of.
cause this poor monkey can't show us now how he can be a human and by the way monkeys are monkeys since the time people know that there is something called monkey on earth.
But I always wonder about its actions which are similar to humans and wonder if monkeys were humans and punished into monkeys???
So, tell me. Who brought all those humans to earth and how come they never develop?
But still getting sick and decreasing because of war and sickness.
This chain of humans started from adam and Eve and that's why you didn't find yourself under a tree without a mother and a father that you didn't creat yourself by yourself and thanks to your mother who gave us the chance to talk to you and know about the world and its people.
Then if you are saying that it is a myth, can you tell me why this myth is continuing every second by having new people being born.
If I know that the sun heats the sea and the water evaporated and goes to the cold sky and turns into water again to fall as rain when you proof the opposite of this water circle then you can say that there is no father and mother for the humanity. We are not talking about names and we are not talking about the forbidden tree.
We are talking about faith and wisedom.
No they didnt.
you mean did not or didn't, Am I right?
We are not here to pick spelling mistakes or grammatical mistakes which includes punctuation of course . We are here to make the world a better place with peace and understanding.
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If you mean hominid, then its Australopithecus afranese (sp?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
The name "Hominoidea" can be loosely translated as 'ape'. However, although the superfamily of Hominoidea has always included great apes such as humans, as well as the Hylobatidae, a different connotation of the word 'ape' exists in the vernacular. The historical, common usage of the word often excludes humans when referring to apes. Humans are also often excluded from the larger classifications of "animal" and "primate" in common usage, despite belonging to both of these groups as well. The reason for this is that scientific nomenclature and everyday language abide by different rules. Other examples of this are "butterfly" (not a member of Diptera), "ladybird" (not a member of Aves) and "jellyfish" (not a fish). Taxonomic labels can be redefined according to the latest scientific findings; as such, they may or may not overlap with their vernacular counterparts.
Often, non-human apes are said to be the result of a cursea Jewish folktale claims that one of the races who built the Tower of Babel became apes as punishment, while Muslim lore says that the Jews of Eilat became non-human apes as punishment for fishing on the Sabbath. Some sects of Christianity have folklore that claims that these apes are a symbol of lust and were created by Satan in response to God's creation of humans. It is uncertain whether any of these references are to any specific apes. All of these concepts date from a period when neither the distinction between apes and monkeys, nor the fact that humans are apes, was not widely understood, or understood at all.
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Humans by definition are apes.
I can see that some people are allergic to banana!!! The favorite food.
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No one ever said we evolved from monkies.
So may be they are the cousins of apes!!!
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No, that would be stupid.
It might be.
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Evolution, and humans are still evolving.
In what way exactly?
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What do you mean by "decreasing"?
being few
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This makes no sense.
And the apes story also.
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As a Muslim I believe in Allah/God the Creator like any other faithful Christian. look at this:
http://www.holybible.com/resources/K...esis&Chapter=1
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Defenders Notes >> Defenders Notes >>
You as a Christian can't tell the difference between Allah/God the Creator and Jesus the prophet??
Or are you trying to convince me that Jesus ( peace be upon him) created the world and then he was born again. Because that's not what the Holy Book is telling everyone about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
The name "Hominoidea" can be loosely translated as 'ape'. However, although the superfamily of Hominoidea has always included great apes such as humans, as well as the Hylobatidae, a different connotation of the word 'ape' exists in the vernacular. The historical, common usage of the word often excludes humans when referring to apes. Humans are also often excluded from the larger classifications of "animal" and "primate" in common usage, despite belonging to both of these groups as well. The reason for this is that scientific nomenclature and everyday language abide by different rules. Other examples of this are "butterfly" (not a member of Diptera), "ladybird" (not a member of Aves) and "jellyfish" (not a fish). Taxonomic labels can be redefined according to the latest scientific findings; as such, they may or may not overlap with their vernacular counterparts.
Often, non-human apes are said to be the result of a cursea Jewish folktale claims that one of the races who built the Tower of Babel became apes as punishment, while Muslim lore says that the Jews of Eilat became non-human apes as punishment for fishing on the Sabbath. Some sects of Christianity have folklore that claims that these apes are a symbol of lust and were created by Satan in response to God's creation of humans. It is uncertain whether any of these references are to any specific apes. All of these concepts date from a period when neither the distinction between apes and monkeys, nor the fact that humans are apes, was not widely understood, or understood at all.
This has, what to do with a refutation on human evolution?I can see that some people are allergic to banana!!! The favorite food.
So may be they are the cousins of apes!!!
04898][/COLOR]In what way exactly?
being few
And the apes story also.
Perhaps, but unlike the mythical account provided by the Abrahamic traditions, human evolution is demonstable and has been evidenced.