Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Kylie]

Because I've listed many agreements of Genesis with science, history, genetics and math and NO one here can refute my view in ANY way. I have 10 agreements. Would you like to try to refute one scientifically? or Scripturally? or in any other way? I only list FUTURE discoveries because some have asked for me to explain the discoveries of tomorrow.

So what? I can gives you many examples of where Star Trek has agreed with history, doesn't mean there are Klingons up there!

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Because I've listed many agreements of Genesis with science, history, genetics and math

No, you haven't. You've made a bunch of unsupported assertions and twisted stories to shoehorn your unique fantasy into line with Genesis. But you haven't once managed to present any actual evidence in support of your claims.

NO one here can refute my view in ANY way. I have 10 agreements. Would you like to try to refute one scientifically? or Scripturally? or in any other way? I only list FUTURE discoveries because some have asked for me to explain the discoveries of tomorrow.

You have been refuted pretty much every time you make a claim. You have even admitted that you tell untruths but consider that acceptable behaviour.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

That is what it would take to uncover the bottom of Adam's firmament, which was only miles wide,

How many miles wide? Where do you get that measurement from?

Also, they did NOT drill the Northern section of the Lake which is smaller.

I assume you are referring to the Gulf of Ercis. If you want to argue the firmament is there then good luck - water level was about 100m lower 9,500 years ago, and Gulf of Ercis is only 50m deep. I'll leave you to work out why that might be a problem for you.

 

[Colter]

Not so but it reveals your failure to understand that Water is a compound. It's was "created" inside the first thing created, which was Heaven/Air. That is WHY the 1st verse in the Bible does not read heaven earth and Water. That is what any man would write but the Holy Spirit is much more specific, since He is bound to tell the whole Truth that water was not created. Science and Scripture agree. Amen?

The Holy Spirit doesn't write books, religious men do and claim God did to establish their authority. Honest, intelligent people see the errors and move on. Book worshipers that have their pride invested in the "fetish" just invent nonsense to make it "appear" to work.

 

[Aman777]

The Holy Spirit doesn't write books, religious men do and claim God did to establish their authority.

False, and provably wrong scientifically, historically, genetically and mathematically. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible from inside the men who penned the words. 2Pe 1:21 Should we take the word of God or your's?

Honest, intelligent people see the errors and move on.

Ergo, slow, dishonest and stupid people believe God instead of man, in your mind.

Book worshipers that have their pride invested in the "fetish" just invent nonsense to make it "appear" to work.

Take this test and try to explain HOW these scientific Facts got inside Genesis since NO man who lived more than 3k years ago could have possibly known:

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,

3. Chromosone 2 fusion shows that Adam, the first Human was first made, long before plants, herbs, rain, trees, or any prehistoric person. Genesis 2:4-7

Take you pick of any one. It will reveal your scientific or non-existent scientific insight into Genesis for all to see.

 

[Aman777]

So what? I can gives you many examples of where Star Trek has agreed with history, doesn't mean there are Klingons up there!

Can anyone explain HOW a man, who lived 3k years ago, KNEW and correctly wrote these recently discovered scientific facts:

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,

3. Chromosone 2 fusion shows that Adam, the first Human was first made, long before plants, herbs, rain, trees, or any prehistoric person. Genesis 2:4-7

It's proof of God since no man of the time could have known of these recent scientific discoveries. ONLY the people of the last days before Jesus returns, have the "increased knowledge" to understand Genesis. Daniel 12:4

 

[Aman777]

No, you haven't. You've made a bunch of unsupported assertions and twisted stories to shoehorn your unique fantasy into line with Genesis. But you haven't once managed to present any actual evidence in support of your claims.

You have been refuted pretty much every time you make a claim. You have even admitted that you tell untruths but consider that acceptable behaviour.

False accusations since I have posted:

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,

3. Chromosone 2 fusion shows that Adam, the first Human was first made, long before plants, herbs, rain, trees, or any prehistoric person. Genesis 2:4-7

YOU have failed to refute this Truth. I suspect it's because you don't want God's Truth to agree with recently discovered scientific facts. Kinda destroys the fantasies of some here. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

How many miles wide? Where do you get that measurement from?

I assume you are referring to the Gulf of Ercis. If you want to argue the firmament is there then good luck - water level was about 100m lower 9,500 years ago, and Gulf of Ercis is only 50m deep. I'll leave you to work out why that might be a problem for you.

Where was it 11k years ago when the first signs of modern men SUDDENLY appeared in Northern Mesopotamia? The first farming, city building, smelting and EVERY other trait of modern man came forth from the Cradle of Civilization on this Planet. The Ark arrived in Lake Van, Turkey and brought the first Humans (descendants of Adam) to this planet of the common ancestor of Apes. Noah's grandsons spread Adam's superior intelligence to the whole Earth from Babel. That's God's Truth Scripturally.

 

[Speedwell]

Well, it certainly is a unique view.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

False accusations since I have posted:

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

Genesis 1:21 "....and every winged bird after its kind."

Please also tell us what Genesis 1:24 means if every living creature had already been created from water: "And God said, Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind, cattle, and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after their kind: and it was so."

Claim refuted.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Where was it 11k years ago when the first signs of modern men SUDDENLY appeared in Northern Mesopotamia?

About 100m lower than today. It's a problem I'd like you to explain, please.

 

[pitabread]

Where was it 11k years ago when the first signs of modern men SUDDENLY appeared in Northern Mesopotamia? The first farming, city building, smelting and EVERY other trait of modern man came forth from the Cradle of Civilization on this Planet.

Does that still include musical instruments?

 

[pitabread]

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day.

Still ignoring the appearance of vegetation prior to Genesis 1:21, eh? Oh wait, that's the alternative universe Adam's world or something innit?

I guess by rewriting the Bible, you can make it say whatever you want it to say.

 

[Colter]

False, and provably wrong scientifically, historically, genetically and mathematically. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible from inside the men who penned the words. 2Pe 1:21 Should we take the word of God or your's?



Ergo, slow, dishonest and stupid people believe God instead of man, in your mind.



Take this test and try to explain HOW these scientific Facts got inside Genesis since NO man who lived more than 3k years ago could have possibly known:

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,

3. Chromosone 2 fusion shows that Adam, the first Human was first made, long before plants, herbs, rain, trees, or any prehistoric person. Genesis 2:4-7

Take you pick of any one. It will reveal your scientific or non-existent scientific insight into Genesis for all to see.

You are projecting the discoveries of real science into the myth of Genesis.

 

[Kylie]

Can anyone explain HOW a man, who lived 3k years ago, KNEW and correctly wrote these recently discovered scientific facts:

Oh, this old game...

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

Are you actually suggesting that people back then who lived in a desert would have not known that water was required for life? They didn't need a god to tell them that!

2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,

And are you suggesting that science shows that the Earth was around before the Big bang? If so, I'd love to see your evidence.

3. Chromosone 2 fusion shows that Adam, the first Human was first made, long before plants, herbs, rain, trees, or any prehistoric person. Genesis 2:4-7

No, chromosome 2 fusion doesn't show that at all. If you disagree, perhaps you'd care to show me a proper scientific source that says this?

It's proof of God since no man of the time could have known of these recent scientific discoveries. ONLY the people of the last days before Jesus returns, have the "increased knowledge" to understand Genesis. Daniel 12:4

No, you have nothing.

Your first point was something people at the time would have easily been able to figure out, your second point is nothing more than cherry picking, and your third point is just a lack of scientific understanding. Nothing you have said supports your claims in any way whatsoever.

 

[Aman777]

Genesis 1:21 "....and every winged bird after its kind."

What's an it? Go find a KJV or you will continue to be confused.

Gen 1:21 And God (Trinity) created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their (Trinity) kind, and every winged fowl after His (Jesus) kind: and God (Trinity) saw that it was good.

Don't you know that there are two "kinds"? One is a temporary creation made from the air, dust and water which were contaminated with DEATH/darkness, in the beginning? Genesis 1:2 The other kind (Their kind) is an ETERNAL Creation by God the invisible Spirit of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Your theology is so far from what is actually written, you refer to God the Trinity as "its".

Please also tell us what Genesis 1:24 means if every living creature had already been created from water: "And God said, Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind, cattle, and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after their kind: and it was so."

Claim refuted.

In your dreams. Notice that winged fowl is His kind. God the Father is simply telling Jesus the Son (Lord God) that the "living" creatures He created the 5th Day are identical to ones (birds) which Jesus made the next Day and Adam named. Genesis 2:19 Don't you know that God can see the end from the beginning and vice versa? Isa 46:10 Is the God in your mind limited to today?

Your refute is proven wrong or refuted by the verses above in blue. Try again?

 

[Aman777]

About 100m lower than today. It's a problem I'd like you to explain, please.

Sure. Lake Van varies in depth because it is an enclosed Lake, with no outlet. When it rains a lot it gets deeper and when it doesn't rain, it gets lower. Since the depth of the Lake is some 1500 ft deep, 100m lower doesn't dry up the 75 mile wide Lake.

In order to find the miles wide bottom of Adam's firmament, the Lake must be drilled in every square mile or two. The results must then be assorted to see what the boundary of Adam's solid Universe was made of. It's material from another world.

 

[Aman777]

Does that still include musical instruments?

Sorry, but sticks with holes, which MIGHT have been played by prehistoric people, do not count. See Genesis 4:17-22 to find the traits of modern Humans (descendants of Adam) or read my last post.

 

[Aman777]

Still ignoring the appearance of vegetation prior to Genesis 1:21, eh? Oh wait, that's the alternative universe Adam's world or something innit?

I guess by rewriting the Bible, you can make it say whatever you want it to say.

False accusation which is shown by the Scriptural fact that Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven, was made the 2nd Day by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:8
The present 2nd Heaven and the 3rd Heaven 2 Corinthians 12:2 were made the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4 by God the Son, called Lord God in the O.T.

The fact that you cannot understand Scripture is caused your own free will to reject God's Holy Word in favor of man's knowledge.

 

[Aman777]

You are projecting the discoveries of real science into the myth of Genesis.

No, I am showing the Scriptural Fact that God told us of scientific discoveries of the last days before Jesus returns, in Genesis. That's WHY no one can refute His Truth. When I discovered this Truth, I noticed that it also agreed, in every way, with every discovery of Science, History, Genetics and Math. Amen?