"You try working with him...

[rambot]

And not chasing pills and alcohol."

Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There

i recall reading a report that listed the drugs being dispenses for the white house a few months ago and this story just adds to it all.

While other presidents were known to take a mix of drug cocktails to fight off back pain (like JFK) or bad moods (like Nixon), no previous administrations matched the level of debauchery of Trump’s, whose in-office pharmacists unquestioningly handed out highly addictive substances to staffers who needed pick-me-ups or energy boosts—no doctor’s exam, referral, or prescription required...

As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter

Thoughts on this?

 

[Bradskii]

I'm pretty certain Sidney Powell was on drugs.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

And not chasing pills and alcohol."

Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There

i recall reading a report that listed the drugs being dispenses for the white house a few months ago and this story just adds to it all.



As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter

Thoughts on this?

I can imagine needing help in the form of drugs or extra Grace to deal with the every day stress produced from DJT.

 

[Always in His Presence]

What next? They forgot their cocaine in the cubby outside the situation room?

 

[eleos1954]

And not chasing pills and alcohol."

Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There

i recall reading a report that listed the drugs being dispenses for the white house a few months ago and this story just adds to it all.



As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter

Thoughts on this?

Like you don't think this (taking of drugs and use of alcohol) don't happen on the democratic side?

Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There

This is a political propaganda statement ... to isolate this as the reason

 

[rambot]

Like you don't think this (taking of drugs and use of alcohol) don't happen on the democratic side?

That is correct. It's not that I don't think that happens, it's that the White House Pharmacist reports it doesn't happen.

Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There

This is a political propaganda statement ... to isolate this as the reason

So why do YOU think Trump's White House had so many drugs in them?
There are a lot of very not so quiet issues that Trump has had an addiction to prescription drugs (and that would certainly explain some of his REALLY off the rails speeches). Don't know if you've had an addict for a boss but I'll tell ya, it's the definition of chaos.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

That is correct. It's not that I don't think that happens, it's that the White House Pharmacist reports it doesn't happen.


So why do YOU think Trump's White House had so many drugs in them?
There are a lot of very not so quiet issues that Trump has had an addiction to prescription drugs (and that would certainly explain some of his REALLY off the rails speeches). Don't know if you've had an addict for a boss but I'll tell ya, it's the definition of chaos.

I laugh because I thought, maybe this is the cause of the chaos in the MAGA caucus. LOL.

 

[eleos1954]

That is correct. It's not that I don't think that happens, it's that the White House Pharmacist reports it doesn't happen.


So why do YOU think Trump's White House had so many drugs in them?
There are a lot of very not so quiet issues that Trump has had an addiction to prescription drugs (and that would certainly explain some of his REALLY off the rails speeches). Don't know if you've had an addict for a boss but I'll tell ya, it's the definition of chaos.

Many people in the world have drugs in them. Were they tested? Were the drugs prescribed? There is no valid data to back up this claim ... just someone's "say so".

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Many people in the world have drugs in them. Were they tested? Were the drugs prescribed? There is no valid data to back up this claim ... just someone's "say so".

It is as valid as someone finding some cocain in a visiting area.

 

[eleos1954]

It is as valid as someone finding some cocain in a visiting area.

That is either unknown or known and not being disclosed ... so unless it's disclosed (proof) then it is invalid as well.

Both instances are unknown ... both are being used politically ... both are meaningless ... neither claims proven.

 

[rambot]

Many people in the world have drugs in them. Were they tested? Were the drugs prescribed? There is no valid data to back up this claim ... just someone's "say so".

Wait. They are self reporting this. The people DOING the drugs are saying "Yeah. We did drugs".

No valid data? Well, there is a paper copy of the dispensary indicating how many pills were actually dispensed in the WH. So "no valid data" is incorrect.

You could say "It's just someone say so" but it's not like something they are happy to admit.

 

[rambot]

That is either unknown or known and not being disclosed ... so unless it's disclosed (proof) then it is invalid as well.

Both instances are unknown ... both are being used politically ... both are meaningless ... neither claims proven.

Ahhh yes.
It also hasn't been proven that Trump molested underage girls.

He just went to Epstein's island to birdwatch, of course.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Like you don't think this (taking of drugs and use of alcohol) don't happen on the democratic side?

Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There

This is a political propaganda statement ... to isolate this as the reason

Given the high turnover in the Trump White House, it would appear that his administration was uniquely dysfunctional.

 

[eleos1954]

Ahhh yes.
It also hasn't been proven that Trump molested underage girls.

He just went to Epstein's island to birdwatch, of course.

There are a lot of things that come up in politics (various politicians) that look fishy ... however the system we have adopted is proof ... beyond a shadow of doubt. If that exists in this case ... then someone should proceed with a legal case in this regard.

Does it look fishy? In some peoples minds ... yes.

Guilt by association is not a valid way to proceed

Current legislation in the United States, however, dictates that a judge or jury cannot punish someone for an association with a criminal. Therefore, it is not a valid charge, and prosecutors will need to work hard to find hard evidence that proves, without a doubt, this association claim for someone to be charged.

If you are friends with some one and that person commits murder are we to assume you are a murder as well?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

That is either unknown or known and not being disclosed ... so unless it's disclosed (proof) then it is invalid as well.

Both instances are unknown ... both are being used politically ... both are meaningless ... neither claims proven.

It is interesting how it is reported.

 

[rambot]

There are a lot of things that come up in politics (various politicians) that look fishy ... however the system we have adopted is proof ... beyond a shadow of doubt. If that exists in this case ... then someone should proceed with a legal case in this regard.

Does it look fishy? In some peoples minds ... yes.

Guilt by association is not a valid way to proceed

Current legislation in the United States, however, dictates that a judge or jury cannot punish someone for an association with a criminal. Therefore, it is not a valid charge, and prosecutors will need to work hard to find hard evidence that proves, without a doubt, this association claim for someone to be charged.

If you are friends with some one and that person commits murder are we to assume you are a murder as well?

Sure but what's so funny is if a Republican brings up Clinton in the same regard, Democrats wouldn't spend a second defending him.

So while you're not wrong, it doesn't mean Trump was bird watching on Epstein's island: Without Plausible deniability, Trump would have no deniability.

 

[Jimmy It]

It seems to be a carryover from the Obama administration. though it did increase according to this article from Reuters.

The report presents the findings of the Pentagon's Office of the Inspector General, which investigated the unit from September 2019 through February 2020 after receiving a complaint in 2018. It spans 2009 to 2018 and thus covers the presidential administrations of both Barack Obama and Donald Trump, but most of its findings focus on 2017-2019 when Trump was president.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/

In the Reuters report, which is supposedly a 'non biased' news paper, the headline focuses on Trump. Those with an agenda or those who won't take the time to dig deeper, run with it.

 

[rambot]

It seems to be a carryover from the Obama administration. though it did increase according to this article from Reuters.

Copious amounts of drugs being dispensed?

No it doesn't.

The report presents the findings of the Pentagon's Office of the Inspector General, which investigated the unit from September 2019 through February 2020 after receiving a complaint in 2018. It spans 2009 to 2018 and thus covers the presidential administrations of both Barack Obama and Donald Trump, but most of its findings focus on 2017-2019 when Trump was president.

Yes because the time of the Trump White house had problematic data.

Does that not seem like an obvious answer?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/

In the Reuters report, which is supposedly a 'non biased' news paper, the headline focuses on Trump. Those with an agenda or those who won't take the time to dig deeper, run with it.

It seems hilarious that you would put up a link that supports my source to the T. And then claim others have an agenda without addressing the behaviours in Trump's White House.


I guess it can't REALLY count as a "Whataboutism" if it didn't happen though.

 

[iluvatar5150]

As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter

It's a mix and AFAIK, depends on the nature of the position. There are jobs classified as career civil servants who stay across administrations and there are jobs that are classified as political appointees. Know Your Enemy recently did an episode about the machinations to staff the next Trump administration that covers some of this:

Know Your Enemy: Building a "Better" Trump Administration - Dissent Magazine

Matt and Sam explore how movement conservatives—and their think tanks—are preparing for a second Trump administration.

www.dissentmagazine.org

 

[rambot]

It's a mix and AFAIK, depends on the nature of the position. There are jobs classified as career civil servants who stay across administrations and there are jobs that are classified as political appointees. Know Your Enemy recently did an episode about the machinations to staff the next Trump administration that covers some of this:

Know Your Enemy: Building a "Better" Trump Administration - Dissent Magazine

Matt and Sam explore how movement conservatives—and their think tanks—are preparing for a second Trump administration.

www.dissentmagazine.org

Thank you.