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There are all kinds of people that lie too.There are all sorts of people discussing how they'd steal papers off his desk so he wouldn't do something stupid, and he'd have forgotten about it the next day. So it's not at all unlikely that this drug culture was going on without his knowledge, Some psychologists have noted that some pretty capable grifters were not very smart, and while they have great social skills and speak convincingly, they aren't very good at reasoning. Trump fits pretty well.
Comes down to credibility. Trump is a compulsive liar. He lies even when there's no logical reason to lie. But lots of people in Trump's WH have disparaged his intelligence:There are all kinds of people that lie too.
I didn't even read the above. Biden lied all through his career. Back in the 70's, he was a downright racist, and antisemite. He opened the border wide open, offering all kinds of services for them to live here, while he ignores Americans in need. Then when the primaries came all of a sudden, he realizes how serious the border situation is. Brings up a bill to spend more money, to process the flow, not stop it. Sure he wants to "process these people to have them able to vote. Smoke and mirrors. Not caring about anybody dying, being trafficked...Oh, and you were saying something about Trump? Sorry, tired of hearing petty complaints, in light of Biden's career.Comes down to credibility. Trump is a compulsive liar. He lies even when there's no logical reason to lie. But lots of people in Trump's WH have disparaged his intelligence:
In one example, Woodward wrote that then-economic adviser Gary Cohn “stole a letter off Trump’s desk” that the president planned to sign pulling the United States from a trade agreement with key ally South Korea.
Cohn later told a colleague that he removed the letter to protect national security and that Trump didn’t even notice that it went missing.
Cohn repeated his chicanery to stop Trump from withdrawing from the North American Free Trade Agreement, which he had vilified on the campaign trail.
In spring 2017, Trump harangued then-White House secretary Rob Porter over the issue.
“Why aren’t we getting this done? Do your job. I want to do this,” the commander in chief said.
Porter dutifully drafted a letter withdrawing from NAFTA, but he and other advisers feared it could trigger an economic and foreign-relations disaster, so Porter consulted Cohn.
“I can stop this,” Cohn replied. “I’ll just take the paper off his desk.”
Aides took orders off Trump’s desk to stop him from signing them: Woodward
President Trump’s top aides were so worried about his plans to scrap two major trade deals that they swiped the orders off his desk — and he didn’t even notice, according to a new book on the White…nypost.com
President Donald Trump has hurled numerous insults at Democrats, the news media and even those in his own party.
But the president has also been on the receiving end, including from people who work in his administration.
“Fear: Trump in the White House,” by Bob Woodward, is the latest book to detail chaos in the president’s immediate orbit. Excerpts were published Tuesday and immediately brought to mind several disparaging comments that Trump’s staff is reported to have made about the commander in chief:
• Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader,” according to accounts of Woodward’s book that were published by The Washington Post. The comments came after a National Security Council meeting on Jan. 19 in which Trump questioned why the government was using resources to maintain a U.S. military presence on the Korean Peninsula. Mattis told Trump that presence was necessary “in order to prevent World War III.”
• White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump “an idiot” and said he thought the president was “unhinged,” The Post also reported. NBC News first reported in May that Kelly had referred to the president as an idiot multiple times, in addition to making several remarks “insulting the president’s intelligence and casting himself as the savior of the country.” Kelly has denied that he ever called Trump an idiot.
• Omarosa Manigault Newman, who was the highest-ranking African-American staffer in the West Wing, claimed in a book published earlier this summer that Trump is a “racist, misogynist and bigot.” In her book, “Unhinged,” Manigault Newman said she witnessed Trump use racial epithets while describing presidential counselor Kellyanne Conway’s husband, George Conway, who is half Filipino.
• Earlier this year, Michael Wolff detailed in his book “Fire and Fury” that a number of individuals in the Trump administration insulted the president’s intelligence. Both Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and former chief of staff Reince Priebus called Trump an “idiot,” Wolff wrote. Former economic adviser Gary Cohn said Trump was “dumb as [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse],” and former national security adviser H.R. McMaster said the president was a “dope,” according to the book.
• Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said in November 2017 that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,” according to Vanity Fair. He also said that Trump had “lost his step.” Bannon had left the White House in August 2017.
• Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in July 2017 called Trump a “moron,” NBC News reported. The comments came after Tillerson had a meeting at the Pentagon with members of the White House national security team and Cabinet officials.
• At a dinner in July 2017, McMaster mocked Trump, also calling him an “idiot,” BuzzFeed News reported. At the dinner, which was with Oracle CEO Safra Catz, McMaster also said Trump was a “dope” with the intelligence of a “kindergartner,” according to that report.
And I don't think "They are lying, all of them!" is an adequate rebuttal. George W. Bush himself admitted that he wasn't the brightest president ever, but we didn't see this kind of contempt expressed by the people who worked for him in the WH.
For reasons we probably all understand. It's a bad look for Trump that so many of his people have such a low opinion of his competence.I didn't even read the above.
Politicians lie. Trump is just an extreme case.Biden lied all through his career.
Then it's kinda hard to see why Biden supported the Civil Rights Act and recently signed anti-lynching and hate crimes bills. You offered no support for your claim; we all know why.Back in the 70's, he was a downright racist, and antisemite.
In fact, more aliens were stopped at the border under Biden than under Trump. Would you like me to show you that? C'mon.He opened the border wide open,
In fact, he sent a bill to Congress to increase funding for the Border Patrol and to speed up deportation hearings. Trump ordered republicans in the House to stop that at all costs. And they did. Do you think no one noticed?offering all kinds of services for them to live here,
You think the Border Patrol doesn't stop illegal immigrants? I think we've found your problem. And yes, more rapid deportation hearings means that those who are not legally entitled to asylum would be more quickly deported. Maybe you don't know this, but it doesn't seem that hard to understand.Brings up a bill to spend more money, to process the flow, not stop it.
I would think catching more of those people at the border would help stop it. Why do you think it wouldn't? And of course, more timely deportation hearings would admit those who deserve it, and remove those who don't in a more timely manner. Why would that offend you?Not caring about anybody dying, being trafficked
Just noting how many of his people have a very low opinion of his mental competence. Not surprising, really, given some of his statements.Oh, and you were saying something about Trump?
Don't you really know about Joe Biden's past? About his standing with Robert Byrd to stop black children from being bused to white schools? It's not a secret, it's part of the historical record. For starters here's what NBC, a supporter of Joe, admitted:Then it's kinda hard to see why Biden supported the Civil Rights Act and recently signed anti-lynching and hate crimes bills. You offered no support for your claim; we all know why.
In fact, more aliens were stopped at the border under Biden than under Trump. Would you like me to show you that? C'mon.
In fact, he sent a bill to Congress to increase funding for the Border Patrol and to speed up deportation hearings. Trump ordered republicans in the House to stop that at all costs. And they did. Do you think no one noticed?
And not chasing pills and alcohol."
Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There
i recall reading a report that listed the drugs being dispenses for the white house a few months ago and this story just adds to it all.
As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter
Thoughts on this?
And not chasing pills and alcohol."
Trump White House Was Awash in Drugs Because No One Wanted to Be There
i recall reading a report that listed the drugs being dispenses for the white house a few months ago and this story just adds to it all.
As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter
Thoughts on this?
I'd be surprised if no democrat did. (Barbarian checks)
Freshman Congressman Trey Radel (R-Florida) became the first sitting U.S. representative to be convicted for a cocaine offense this week. The 37-year-old Radel pleaded guilty to misdemeanor possession charges, following from his attempt to score about 3.5 grams of coke for $250 from an undercover cop in late October. (Radel had recently voted with Republican colleagues to drug-test food stamp recipients – an irony not lost on minority leader Nancy Pelosi, who remarked, “It’s like, what!?“) Radel, blamed his “extremely irresponsible choice” on “the disease of alcoholism.” The first-time offender was sentenced to one year of probation.
President Barack Obama
While more famous for his youthful marijuana exploits as a member of the “Choom Gang,” the president in his memoir Dreams from My Father obliquely admitted that he had a taste for coke too. The president writes about his drug use in the context of self-medicating to deal with the pain of an absent father: “Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.”
Former New York Governor David Paterson
The man who took over the governor’s mansion from Eliot Spitzer following a prostitution scandal began his administration by frankly discussing with a TV interviewer his tame-by-comparison experience with cocaine: “You used cocaine, governor?” asked the reporter. Paterson’s reply: “I’d say I was 22 or 23, I tried it a couple of times, yes.”
Former President George W. Bush
Allegations of youthful cocaine use dogged Bush throughout his political career. He always stopped short of definitively denying his use, preferring dodges like: “When I was young and irresponsible, I was young and irresponsible.”
Former Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin
In a salacious biography published by Joe McGinniss, a friend of Palin’s recalls a snowmachine trip with her prior to her election as governor of Alaska, in which the party turned over a 55 gallon oil drum and “we were all doing cocaine lines off the top of the drum.”
Former Rep. Ron Dellums
Radel isn’t the first House member to be linked to cocaine use. According to Congressional ethics documents, Dellums, a California Democrat, was investigated in the early 1980s for possible cocaine use. An assistant manager of the House Democratic cloakroom testified to a grand jury that he’d sold coke to Dellums. Dellums “expressly denied” the charges. A Justice Department investigation later determined that “there is insufficient admissible, credible evidence to support criminal charges against Representative Dellums.”
Former Rep. Charlie Wilson
Wilson, a Republican from Texas, was alleged to have used cocaine on three occasions in 1980, once in Las Vegas and twice in the Caymans. Noting “jurisdictional problems,” the Department of Justice also concluded that there was “insufficient admissible, credible evidence” to charge Wilson.
Former D.C. Mayor Marion Barry
The D.C. mayor is the only politician on this list to serve time for a cocaine offense. In a 1990 sting operation, Barry was lured to a room at the Vista International Hotel by a former girlfriend working for the FBI, and videotaped smoking crack. Not unlike Radel, Barry was found guilty of a single count of misdemeanor possession charge. Unlike Radel, Barry was sentenced to six months in federal prison.
Blow by Blow: 10 Politicians Linked to Cocaine
Congressman Trey Radel isn't the first politician to make headlines from white lineswww.rollingstone.com
I don't entirely buy the "young and stupid" excuse, but Bush and Obama at least stayed clean as adults.
Comes down to credibility. Trump is a compulsive liar. He lies even when there's no logical reason to lie. But lots of people in Trump's WH have disparaged his intelligence:
In one example, Woodward wrote that then-economic adviser Gary Cohn “stole a letter off Trump’s desk” that the president planned to sign pulling the United States from a trade agreement with key ally South Korea.
Cohn later told a colleague that he removed the letter to protect national security and that Trump didn’t even notice that it went missing.
Cohn repeated his chicanery to stop Trump from withdrawing from the North American Free Trade Agreement, which he had vilified on the campaign trail.
In spring 2017, Trump harangued then-White House secretary Rob Porter over the issue.
“Why aren’t we getting this done? Do your job. I want to do this,” the commander in chief said.
Porter dutifully drafted a letter withdrawing from NAFTA, but he and other advisers feared it could trigger an economic and foreign-relations disaster, so Porter consulted Cohn.
“I can stop this,” Cohn replied. “I’ll just take the paper off his desk.”
Aides took orders off Trump’s desk to stop him from signing them: Woodward
President Trump’s top aides were so worried about his plans to scrap two major trade deals that they swiped the orders off his desk — and he didn’t even notice, according to a new book on the White…nypost.com
President Donald Trump has hurled numerous insults at Democrats, the news media and even those in his own party.
But the president has also been on the receiving end, including from people who work in his administration.
“Fear: Trump in the White House,” by Bob Woodward, is the latest book to detail chaos in the president’s immediate orbit. Excerpts were published Tuesday and immediately brought to mind several disparaging comments that Trump’s staff is reported to have made about the commander in chief:
• Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Trump had the understanding of “a fifth- or sixth-grader,” according to accounts of Woodward’s book that were published by The Washington Post. The comments came after a National Security Council meeting on Jan. 19 in which Trump questioned why the government was using resources to maintain a U.S. military presence on the Korean Peninsula.
Mattis told Trump that presence was necessary “in order to prevent World War III.”
• White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump “an idiot” and said he thought the president was “unhinged,” The Post also reported. NBC News first reported in May that Kelly had referred to the president as an idiot multiple times, in addition to making several remarks “insulting the president’s intelligence and casting himself as the savior of the country.” Kelly has denied that he ever called Trump an idiot.
• Omarosa Manigault Newman, who was the highest-ranking African-American staffer in the West Wing, claimed in a book published earlier this summer that Trump is a “racist, misogynist and bigot.”
In her book, “Unhinged,” Manigault Newman said she witnessed Trump use racial epithets while describing presidential counselor Kellyanne Conway’s husband, George Conway, who is half Filipino.
• Earlier this year, Michael Wolff detailed in his book “Fire and Fury”
that a number of individuals in the Trump administration insulted the president’s intelligence.
Both Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and former chief of staff Reince Priebus called Trump an “idiot,” Wolff wrote.
Former economic adviser Gary Cohn said Trump was “dumb as [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse],” and former national security adviser H.R. McMaster said the president was a “dope,” according to the book.
• Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said in November 2017 that Trump was “like an 11-year-old child,” according to Vanity Fair. He also said that Trump had “lost his step.” Bannon had left the White House in August 2017.
• Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in July 2017 called Trump a “moron,” NBC News reported. The comments came after Tillerson had a meeting at the Pentagon with members of the White House national security team and Cabinet officials.
• At a dinner in July 2017, McMaster mocked Trump, also calling him an “idiot,” BuzzFeed News reported. At the dinner, which was with Oracle CEO Safra Catz, McMaster also said Trump was a “dope” with the intelligence of a “kindergartner,” according to that report.
And I don't think "They are lying, all of them!" is an adequate rebuttal. George W. Bush himself admitted that he wasn't the brightest president ever, but we didn't see this kind of contempt expressed by the people who worked for him in the WH.
A lot of the mess-ups seem to have been just by inattention. Trump's border fence fiasco, was mostly because no one was watching the contractors to see what they were doing.Wow. One has to wonder how much criticism of his behavior and policy is legitimate.
Given that Biden was negotiating with McCarthy by himself, and clearly snockered the republicans in that negotiation (even they admitted it), seems like your belief doesn't correspond very well to the reality.White House staffers preventing Trump from doing his job gave better results than Biden Staffers implementing their own ideas without resistance.
He took an oath to defend the Constitution. So he would easily be able to show that he was just following his oath.Was Cohn ever charged for that crime? Obstruction of official duties?
Since he reamed Trump for his failures while Trump was in office, I'd have to say you weren't thinking very clearly about this.Odd. John Kelly seems to have the exact necessary opinions to be of use to whomever is in office.
She was apparently insufficiently loyal to him personally. I have to wonder about a woman who has to be in the WH to realize that Trump hates other races and fears women.Those are strong words. He did hire a black woman to do her job....perhaps he intended for her to be a white man.
As McConnell observed, Tillerson didn't merely call Trump and idiot. Go look it up. He was more precise than that.This list is starting to look silly.
You've confused Politico with Buzzfeed. And I don't think "They are lying, all of them!" is an adequate defense.Calling BuzzFeed news....news....seems generous.
By an Iraqi. Did you honestly think it was by one of his employees? Seriously?I saw a shoe thrown at him.
You actually think a US representative works for the president? I'm beginning to see why you're so confused. Maybe you should take a time out, and go learn about who actually works for a U.S. president, and then try to contribute to the discussion.If you don't think people who work for every president regularly call them disparaging names...well....
Then I guess this would look like news to you.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-re...ing-genocide-against-palestinians-2023-11-04/
That's what Putin is saying, now that he's a wanted man. He agrees that forcibly taking of children from their parents should not be a crime. But most people would disagree with you and Putin.The International Criminal Court defines the crime of genocide as the specific intent to destroy in whole, or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group by killing its members or by other means, including imposing measures intended to prevent births or forcibly transferring children from one group to another.
I gotta say...that definition is a bit overly broad
Biden supported the Civil Rights Act, but correctly predicted that forced busing would backfire and cause more racial strife. And events proved him to be correct.Don't you really know about Joe Biden's past? About his standing with Robert Byrd to stop black children from being bused to white schools?
Actually, the border patrol is stretched to the limit, as are the deportation court hearings. Biden asked Congress for more money to beef up enforcement and removal of those who don't belong here. It almost passed until Donald Trump told his followers to vote it down. Trump wants open borders because he's running out of issues to scare the faithful.As to the border, Joe has let in over 10 million people!
A lot of the mess-ups seem to have been just by inattention. Trump's border fence fiasco, was mostly because no one was watching the contractors to see what they were doing.
Given that Biden was negotiating with McCarthy by himself, and clearly snockered the republicans in that negotiation (even they admitted it), seems like your belief doesn't correspond very well to the reality.
He took an oath to defend the Constitution. So he would easily be able to show that he was just following his oath.
Since he reamed Trump for his failures while Trump was in office, I'd have to say you weren't thinking very clearly about this.
She was apparently insufficiently loyal to him personally.
I have to wonder about a woman who has to be in the WH to realize that Trump hates other races and fears women.
As McConnell observed, Tillerson didn't merely call Trump and idiot. Go look it up. He was more precise than that.
You've confused Politico with Buzzfeed. And I don't think "They are lying, all of them!" is an adequate defense.
George W. Bush himself admitted that he wasn't the brightest president ever, but we didn't see this kind of contempt expressed by the people who worked for him in the WH.
By an Iraqi. Did you honestly think it was by one of his employees? Seriously?
You actually think a US representative works for the president?
I'm beginning to see why you're so confused. Maybe you should take a time out, and go learn about who actually works for a U.S. president, and then try to contribute to the discussion.
That's what Putin is saying, now that he's a wanted man.
But most people would disagree with you and Putin.
I'm not certain what "fiasco" you're referring to here.
See above. The border patrol makes jokes about the number of holes in the "impenetrable wall."I know Trump managed to get a considerable amount of infrastructure built...
What negotiation are you referring to?
Stopping an unconstitutional move by the president. Presidents can't unilaterally abrogate treaties ratified by Congress.What part of disobeying a presidential order over an issue the president holds authority in is considered "defending the Constitution"?
I haven't checked in awhile but I'm fairly certain NAFTA isn't in any amendments.
Oh, of course you were... I'm sorry if correcting you made you angry.No...I was making a little joke to lighten things up.
Not at all, not in any way. Don't they train you guys before you go to work? C'mon. Read up on "separation of powers."In many ways and capacities...yes.
If I was precise in what Tillerson actually said to describe Trump, I'd be banned here.Just quote Tillerson in 2016-2020. I looked and don't know what you're referring to.
As you seem to realize, the far right has spread their hatred to some universities.One of the main ones is the rampant antisemitism of the progressive college age left that seems to be really cool with chasing around Jewish students, harassing Jewish people, and sending them death threats praising Hitler and the Holocaust.
Because his intelligence people have told him that openly supporting Trump is a bad idea. Mueller found that Putin's tactic was covertly supporting Trump. Seems like that hasn't changed. Last election, his trolls just worked as Trump's echo chamber:Which is odd if you actually consider what Putin says....
Or maybe Putin is doing one thing and saying another. One of those. C'mon. You're not helping him much here. Maybe you could just make up some fairy tale about the evil Dark Brandon, and pretend it's reality.So someone on the left, or in the media, or in the CIA is clearly lying....but I wouldn't rule out all of them either lol.
Yeah, like that. Who knows? Maybe someone would be dumb enough to believe it.I'm speaking about the 100,000 or so children Biden helped traffic into the US and then decided to not keep safe for "reasons".
You wouldn't be the first to ignore a conscience for whatever the payoff is for doing so. Here's a hint: denial doesn't work so well, if your behavior doesn't fit the denial.I can't in good conscience vote for the rampant racism, antisemitism, misinformation spreading,
A lot of the mess-ups seem to have been just by inattention.
Trump's border fence fiasco, was mostly because no one was watching the contractors to see what they were doing.
Smugglers cut through Trump border wall over 3,000 times
Sections of former President Trump’s border wall between the U.S. and Mexico continue to cost the government millions in maintenance to fix sections breached by smugglers.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection records obtained by the Washington Post show that suspected smuggling gangs managed to hack through the heavy steel bollards making up the fence 3,272 times between 2019 and 2021.
The cost to repair the 30-foot-tall beams added up to $2.6 million over that period, the CBP records show.
A keystone of his campaign and a mantra at his rallies, Trump promised an impenetrable barrier along the border, but reports soon surfaced of smugglers using common construction equipment to saw through the bollards.
Smugglers cut through Trump border wall over 3,000 times, report says
Sections of former President Trump’s border wall between the U.S. and Mexico continue to cost the government millions in maintenance to fix sections breached by smugglers.www.newsnationnow.com
Trump’s Big Border Wall Is Now a Pile of Rusting Steel
Worth at least a quarter billion dollars, the steel bollards are a relic of the Trump era.
In the open air throughout the southwestern borderlands. The bollards—18- or 33-foot-long hollow posts, most of them reinforced with concrete and rebar—are worth at least a quarter of a billion dollars.
A Single Scandal Sums Up All of Trump’s Failures
The president has been intervening in the process of producing a border wall, on behalf of a favored firm.
Many of the tales of controversy to emerge from the Trump administration have been abstract, or complicated, or murky. Whenever anyone warns about destruction of “norms,” the conversation quickly becomes speculative—the harms are theoretical, vague, and in the future.
This makes new Washington Post reporting about President Donald Trump’s border wall especially valuable. The Post writes about how Trump has repeatedly pressured the Army Corps of Engineers and the Department of Homeland Security to award a contract for building a wall at the southern U.S. border to a North Dakota company headed by a leading Republican donor.
Joe wants money to PROCESS more migrants into the country, he has killed the bill that would specifically add "more money to beef up enforcement and removal of those who don't belong here." Don't fall for a hoax.Actually, the border patrol is stretched to the limit, as are the deportation court hearings. Biden asked Congress for more money to beef up enforcement and removal of those who don't belong here. It almost passed until Donald Trump told his followers to vote it down. Trump wants open borders because he's running out of issues to scare the faithful.
Yep, he wanted more paper pushers, to get them in here with papers. A really dumb move if only an extremely small number qualify, what a waste of money to massively process false claims? Employing many people knowing their job was not necessary if they remained in Mexico while waiting. That is what lowers asylum seekers. It just does not get them in here, so they don't bother.Joe wants money to PROCESS more migrants into the country, he has killed the bill that would specifically add "more money to beef up enforcement and removal of those who don't belong here." Don't fall for a hoax.
As a slight sidebar...do people bring in their own staffers or would the white house generally have mostly their own people? I'd assume mostly the latter
Thoughts on this?
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