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As I look around at nature...I think your logic is flawed.Any concept of "it was natural phenomenon, not Divine Judgment" is logically flawed as there is no such dilemma.
Any concept of "it was natural phenomenon, not Divine Judgment" is logically flawed as there is no such dilemma.
It seems so pedestrian that a God who is truly transcendent would be so infuriated by his creation that he needs to destroy it to teach them a lesson. An unclear one, at that. That's how I see it.
@EnemyOfReason, now I know you didn't choose your username just cause it sounded cool. I presume there must be a reason why you're an enemy of reason?
I always wondered why a deity wouldnt just punish the responsible parties directly rather than just killing a whole bunch of randoms.
How is it logically flawed exactly? I find it logically flawed to think that it is controlled by divinity. Also - not a phenomenon. These things happen in nature and it has been explained how volcanoe eruptions happen.
What is the point of this kind of vengeful act of destruction anyway? Were the people of Pompeii supposed to know better than to get on the wrong side of a god they probably were barely even aware of?
Not a single instance in the Judeo-Christian text do we see "randoms" punished.
You disbelieve in any sort of Divinity whatsoever, correct? Of course you are not going to see this, but scientific explanation does not remove God from the process, it just tells us how it happens. (It is still entirely possible for naturally destructive phenomenon to occur that has nothing to do with Divine Judgment)
May I add that scientific evaluations do not prove god either.
The two are mutually incompatible when it comes to dogmatic religions. Science has disproved creation myths, history has disproved Christianity and philosophy has disproved Christian ethics.
Not a single instance in the Judeo-Christian text do we see "randoms" punished.
You disbelieve in any sort of Divinity whatsoever, correct? Of course you are not going to see this, but scientific explanation does not remove God from the process, it just tells us how it happens. (It is still entirely possible for naturally destructive phenomenon to occur that has nothing to do with Divine Judgment)
I do not refer to text but rather to claims in todays world about people being punished. Like people blaming that natural distater in new york on same sex marriages.
I think what you mean to say is that you do not believe that it removes god from the process.
Ok. Which one do you refer to?
True, but also science says the same thing. Science simply doesn't address God, nor "why." Only how.
How does believing God/Allah destroyed Pompeii make someone an extremist?
There were quite a few across the united states and other countries that caused people to claim it was god sending punishment for letting people of the same sex get married.
The sepcific one I referred to was Hurricaine Sandy
It sometimes addresses the why. If you believe that God has a hand in the why then I personally do not have a problem with that. It is when people try to shout out and force people to subscribe to the idea that weather and natural distaster is used for punishment by a certain deity that I get annoyed.
I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that Pompeii might be destroyed by God. However it would be extremely dangers to affirm that Pompeii is destroyed by God because the sins of its citizens without any scripture to back it up (i.e. we know Sodome was destroyed by God, but it will be bad to blame the death Pompeii's citizens on themselves).
It is much better to give word of prayer when tragedy happens, then to blame the dead.
Bottom line, said volcano was and still is very active. No divine activity required. It's just the way nature swings.I have a simpler explanation of the tragedy of Pompeii that requires no divine judgement or punishment:
Building a city next to a volcano is dangerous.
Whoops! My bad.Get that rational thinking out of here. No place for it in this thread!
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