You can't worship Jesus, and believe in evolution (Theistic Evolution)

[sfs]

"Underwater, humans hear through their bones"

 

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Humans and dolphins both hear through their ears. In both cases, sound can be conducted to the ear through the jaw or the skull. It's one reason your own voice sounds different to you than when you hear it recorded.

Dolphins echo-locate through their jaw. Here is the pathway...

• The major areas of sound reception are the fat-filled cavities of the lower jaw bones. Sounds are received and conducted through the lower jaw to the middle ear, inner ear, and then to hearing centers in the brain via the auditory nerve. ref

 

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I'm claiming that if I have a new and better mutation, then by definition my mate's version of the same gene will not be selected over mine. "Selected" means "favored by natural selection", which won't happen if her variant confers less fitness than mine. In any case, my mate and I each pass exactly one copy of a gene to our offspring, so I don't see what selection has to do with it.

Really? Tell that to the runt of the litter.

 

[-57]

"Underwater, humans hear through their bones"

You seem to really be stretching the point. The point is dolphin echo-location systems are nothing like the way humans hear.

 

[sfs]

You seem to really be stretching the point. The point is dolphin echo-location systems are nothing like the way humans hear.

My point is that dolphin echo-location is based on fairly simple modifications to the standard mammalian hearing apparatus. It's not stretching the point at all: as soon as mammals are in the water, they're automatically hearing sounds conducted through their bones; that's not a novelty at all.

 

[sfs]

Really? Tell that to the runt of the litter.

I still have no idea what you're talking about here. Could yo describe in more detail what you mean? How is the mate's less beneficial allele selected?

 

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My point is that dolphin echo-location is based on fairly simple modifications to the standard mammalian hearing apparatus. It's not stretching the point at all: as soon as mammals are in the water, they're automatically hearing sounds conducted through their bones; that's not a novelty at all.

The formation of the oiley melon that focuses the clicks is a simple modification?

 

[-57]

I still have no idea what you're talking about here. Could yo describe in more detail what you mean? How is the mate's less beneficial allele selected?

It wasn't chosen in the womb. Your genetic make up isn't 100% Mom and 100% Dad.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

I guess to get back on track with the thread. I figured that we really do not know how long the earth was formless and empty. We don't know the time gap between gen 1:1 and gen 1:2 and I don't see any point in trying to find any ratio between God days and people days. Now think about it....we measure a day as 24 hours. We get 24 hours based on the time required for the earth to make one full rotation about its axis and we use the sun to measure it. How long was a day when the sun, moon, and stars were not made until the third day? God is eternal. What is time in relation to eternity? What is there to reference time in the realm of eternity? We use the birth of Christ as a reference for the years. If you ask God what year is it in his heavenly kingdom what would he say? The point that I am trying to make is that perhaps the use of days in regards to creation is not used to determine duration but rather sequence. Can creatures change and adapt over an extended period of time? I would have to say of course. We do it with dogs. Through selective breeding we have hundreds of dog breeds. If man can do it why not nature? So really how long was the earth and animals been on the earth before the creation of man?

 

[Lukamu]

I guess to get back on track with the thread. I figured that we really do not know how long the earth was formless and empty. We don't know the time gap between gen 1:1 and gen 1:2 and I don't see any point in trying to find any ratio between God days and people days. Now think about it....we measure a day as 24 hours. We get 24 hours based on the time required for the earth to make one full rotation about its axis and we use the sun to measure it. How long was a day when the sun, moon, and stars were not made until the third day? God is eternal. What is time in relation to eternity? What is there to reference time in the realm of eternity? We use the birth of Christ as a reference for the years. If you ask God what year is it in his heavenly kingdom what would he say? The point that I am trying to make is that perhaps the use of days in regards to creation is not used to determine duration but rather sequence. Can creatures change and adapt over an extended period of time? I would have to say of course. We do it with dogs. Through selective breeding we have hundreds of dog breeds. If man can do it why not nature? So really how long was the earth and animals been on the earth before the creation of man?

We can mix two breeds of dogs to createa new breed, but no one has ever mixed two breeds of dogs togethrr and created a cat.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

We can mix two breeds of dogs to createa new breed, but no one has ever mixed two breeds of dogs togethrr and created a cat.

Or perhaps a dog who looks like a cat.

 

[Lukamu]

Or perhaps a dog who looks like a cat.

Tell that to the wolf in sheeps clothing - it looks like a sheep so it must be a sheep. But you have not addressed my concern; dogs have never been breeded together to create an animal that is not a dog.

 

[sfs]

Tell that to the wolf in sheeps clothing - it looks like a sheep so it must be a sheep. But you have not addressed my concern; dogs have never been breeded together to create an animal that is not a dog.

What would you expect it to produce?

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

What would you expect it to produce?

 

[Lukamu]

What would you expect it to produce?

A dog.

 

[sfs]

A dog.

Good. So would I. So why are you concerned that they've failed to produce anything other than dogs?

 

[Lukamu]

Good. So would I. So why are you concerned that they've failed to produce anything other than dogs?

Ask jason_delisle. He thinks that breeding dogs to create a new breed is good enough evidence to argue for the theory of evolution.

I guess to get back on track with the thread. I figured that we really do not know how long the earth was formless and empty. We don't know the time gap between gen 1:1 and gen 1:2 and I don't see any point in trying to find any ratio between God days and people days. Now think about it....we measure a day as 24 hours. We get 24 hours based on the time required for the earth to make one full rotation about its axis and we use the sun to measure it. How long was a day when the sun, moon, and stars were not made until the third day? God is eternal. What is time in relation to eternity? What is there to reference time in the realm of eternity? We use the birth of Christ as a reference for the years. If you ask God what year is it in his heavenly kingdom what would he say? The point that I am trying to make is that perhaps the use of days in regards to creation is not used to determine duration but rather sequence. Can creatures change and adapt over an extended period of time? I would have to say of course. We do it with dogs. Through selective breeding we have hundreds of dog breeds. If man can do it why not nature? So really how long was the earth and animals been on the earth before the creation of man?

 

[-57]

I guess to get back on track with the thread. I figured that we really do not know how long the earth was formless and empty. We don't know the time gap between gen 1:1 and gen 1:2 and I don't see any point in trying to find any ratio between God days and people days. Now think about it....we measure a day as 24 hours. We get 24 hours based on the time required for the earth to make one full rotation about its axis and we use the sun to measure it. How long was a day when the sun, moon, and stars were not made until the third day? God is eternal. What is time in relation to eternity? What is there to reference time in the realm of eternity? We use the birth of Christ as a reference for the years. If you ask God what year is it in his heavenly kingdom what would he say? The point that I am trying to make is that perhaps the use of days in regards to creation is not used to determine duration but rather sequence. Can creatures change and adapt over an extended period of time? I would have to say of course. We do it with dogs. Through selective breeding we have hundreds of dog breeds. If man can do it why not nature? So really how long was the earth and animals been on the earth before the creation of man?

How many days do the ten commandments say it took to create?

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

How many days do the ten commandments say it took to create?

Why are you asking about the ten commandments?

 

[-57]

Why are you asking about the ten commandments?

Because thw 10 commandments tell us how many days God used to create.