Yom Kippur

[visionary]

When the Lord takes all the blame for sinfulness found in man, that have been confess by man through the blood of our Lord Yeshua for forgiveness of sins, that have been on record in the Temple of God since Adam and Eve. He will then lay the responsibility for all the sin, death, destruction, and disease that have been the result of sin upon the head of Satan and His lawless attitude. Just as the High Priest comes out of the temple and lays His hands on the scapegoat and confesses all the iniquities on its head before sending it out to the wilderness.

 

[visionary]

If you have never experience holy in an up close and personal way, then how will you know the difference between glory, brightness and holy. Let this day be your experience, "having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Yeshua, and a new and living way, which he has consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; ..." Notice that you are living and entering into the holy temple of heaven through Yeshua in prayer and may the Lord grant you a tasteof holiness so that you will have the gift of discernment at what sin has marred, blackened and blurred down here on earth.

Sin can not live in the presence of God, first have Yeshua open up the book of your life and go over all the sin recorded there in. Work with Yeshua, trust him that if he calls it sin, give it up, for the glory to come is worth giving up every sin now. It took three days to clean the camp of Israel at Mount Sinai before God descended to talk with them and they were still not ready. Will you?

 

[visionary]

If you are not ready to meet the Almighty, Awesome, Holy God and you approach the Lord or the Lord approaches you, the sin within you will burn within you because holiness and sin can not c o-exist in the same space. You will start to tremble and fear will start to overwhelm you. Does God want this? No, that is why He is trying to prepare you for his Almightiness, Power and Glory. Poor Isaiah found himself in the presence of God, he said “Woe is me for I am unclean.”

So even if you have just gone through the book of your life with Yeshua, and have reached to point of having the peace that passes all understanding, you will still be unprepared for the reality of the Almighty Pure Glory of God. Yet if we are to live with him forever, do you not think that now is the time to prepare? Study the word of God looking for God, what is he really like, what does God think, what did those that met with God think, how did they describe there experience. Get a feel for what it would be like to have the real experience.

 

[visionary]

God will guide you through his word, He will show you were you are lacking, and He will open your eyes so that you may see your true self. He will prepare you if you but let Him who has begun a good work finish it. Pray that you may have the courage it takes to go all the way with Yeshua.

 

[HARK!]

Hi, I have a question regarding the fulfillment of the feasts. I know there is much symbolism in the feasts. For example, I was taught that Sukkot was fulfilled when Christ came to dwell among us. Then much later I heard that it won't be fulfilled until he comes again because it is the Feast of the Ingathering and he will gather us to himself. Are both of these interpretations correct?

I believe that both are true. He did tent with us at his first coming; and I believe that he will tent with us again when we are married.

I see a great example of the Moedim being fulfilled in repetition in Pesach.

Were not Yah's people passed over in Egypt?

Is not Yahshua our Passover?

Will Yah's people not be passed over again in the end times?

One definition of Moedim is rehearsals; and through repetition, rehearsals bring refinement.

 

[visionary]

"Go your way, Daniel: for the words are closed up, and sealed till the time of the end." We believe we are reaching the time of the end or last days of earth's history. What shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? Yeshua then answered them regarding when it will be the last day's of earth's history.
“...the gospel must first be published among all nations.” Well, for the first time in history, we can say that we have pretty much arrived at the time where that statement is now a reality. This is where we are and the world will now move to the next stage, as Yeshua foretold in the order that he told.

 

[visionary]

We know that this will be the time of the end for the Lord said " For in those days shall be affliction, (you would say nothing new, but wait the Lord goes on) such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.”

Then come the famous statement the "except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he has chosen, he has shortened the days." We know that this has not yet occurred. This will be the time when the great imitation of Christ by Satan will occur. There is also the three false prophets of Revelation here too. Talk about eye opening Revelation reality "Shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."

Now in order to do this the scapegoat, Satan has to appear before the congregation during the time period at the start of the Day of Atonement when the two goats are brought to prophetic view. Satan will imitate Yeshua Christ and thus fulfill the type by being a copy of the real sacrifice

 

[visionary]

In the second temple period (515 BC to AD 70), the scapegoat was led to a cliff and forced over the brink to make sure it didn’t return. The important thing to note here is that the scapegoat was rejected by the people and was designated to remain outside of the camp.

The other was for taking out to the wilderness, which is representative of Satan when he gets cast into the bottomless pit. According the Jewish history, the Jews would take the scapegoat out into the wilderness and just to make sure it never came back they threw it over the cliff.

The congregation, the world, can watch Satan, pretending to be Yeshua at His Second Coming, do miracles, speak to the congregation using the same words that Yeshua used on the Mount of Blessings, heal the sick, doing resurrection similes that if it were possible, would deceive the very elect. Our world will sacrifice the Word of God, the true Yeshua Christ, who came to save the world for this great pretender. If it were possible, he would deceive even the very elect. That is why the Lord had to cut it short.

 

[visionary]

Then, only on this one day of the year, would the High Priest risked his life to carry the blood of the sacrificed animal into the Most Holy Place of the Lord’s house of worship. Going behind the veil that separated the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place, the high priest entered the presence of God to sprinkle the blood of the sacrifice on the golden Mercy Seat that covered the Ark of the Covenant. If any aspect of the ritual was not fulfilled according to God’s instructions496, the high priest could be struck dead. With judgement beginning at the House of God, the false priest and false prophets are the first to
be punished.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. Because the Day of Atonement was a day of sacrifice, the high priest’s white linen robe was soon spattered with blood. To atone for his own sins, he sacrificed a bull before the Lord. Then to atone for the sins of the nation, the high priest took two kid goats and cast lots to determine their fate. Depending on how the lots fell, one of the goats was sacrificed as a sin offering for the nation. When this sacrificial goat was appointed, the high priest pronounced, “For God,” and the throngs of worshipers would fall on their faces and call out, “Blessed be the Name; the glory of His kingdom is forever and ever.” Then the goat was slain. The other goat was left in front of the congregation.

 

[visionary]

Please notice that is it after the two witnesses have finished their testimony, and those that would be affected by this testimony have been converted, convicted, renewed and transformed by the testimony and by the workings of the Holy Spirit upon them. The only ones left to be deceived are those whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world.

Those that have gathered together under this last great deception will watch the New World Order come into completion and it will last only one hour, before the Lord causes it to fail.

It is interesting that it is because of the costliness that causes its downfall. All the efforts of man to get rich, gone, because of greediness to the max, the lying, stealing, cheating, and killing in order to gain all those riches, gone. It would have been far better if they had gone for the riches of heaven which will last eternity than to live as they have.

 

[visionary]

The merchants wail because they can not buy or sell. While they were working towards ultimate power, they instituted laws that said that you could not buy or sell unless you worship according to their system dictates. It is the system of government that takes over the whole world, and forces everyone into it, that will ultimately fail. It is with the help of Satan, who insinuates that God’s laws are not binding, who says you can change them as needed, who says that you do not need the Laws of God because you are under His Grace, who says that these laws are done away with at the cross, that the world is ripe for His imitation. He wants his system in place before He appears, He wants people to defend his ways, his worship and his gospel so that when He does come as the Christ, they will crown Him the God of this Earth.

The Day of Atonement is over, the plagues are falling, the deception is over, the desolation, destruction, and the voice of a conscience upon the world is gone. The chaos that results from multitudes which a conscience is one of the most horrible scenes to try and visualize with the human mind, for it is inconceivable to comprehend the atrocities that will occur when the wrath of God is upon the people, who are maddened by the evil that dwells within, which an intercessor, who pleads for the people to do the Will of God.

 

[visionary]

The believers during this time, having been trained by God on what is right, having their minds fully on Yeshua, and knowing where they are in earth’s history are looking for their redeemer to take them home to the Wedding Feast.

 

[visionary]

We, as believers will wash our hands of ministering to those around us for we will know that everyone has made their mind up, the plagues of God are falling upon the sinners and that it is time to prepare to meet God

All the sinfulness and the sinners that were involved directly with the work in the House of God that are left are taken out of the camp of the believers, and they are thrown in the fire burning with brimstone.

Now comes the promised rest for the people of God. The believers are forever cleaned from sins before the Lord. They will wear the robe of righteousness that God has laid upon them. They will forever dwell with the Lord.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. After the atonement services are over, there is a consecration service for the new ministers of God.

 

[visionary]

Did you not read in Revelation where those that have overcome become the priests in the Temple of God. Do you believe that is what Yeshua is going to do for eternity is "make intercession for them"?

Many believe that there is no stopping sin from existing in man. They want to keep Yeshua on the cross forever or they want Yeshua before the throne of God forever asking God to forgive because of His atoning blood forever or maybe they have thought that much about what they are asking of God. Do you think that God cannot find a way to end sin? Do you think that God will be dealing with sin for all eternity?

 

[visionary]

The Great Day of Atonement is the final purge of sin from heaven, and there will be no more dealing with sin in heaven. "...there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying "It is done." 509Yeshua will no longer make intercession, dealing with sin is over, it is done. Remember during the plague, it says over and over again, and they repented not...to give him glory...or...of their deeds.

There is no more need to intercede, those that would repent have and those that would not repent did not even when the plaques fell. So what is God’s plan for His people..... ..."to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy "

Perfecting Christ in us "...perfecting holiness in the fear of God." "...that he might fill all things......for the perfecting of the saints..." "Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith towards God" so "let us go on unto perfection" while there is still an intercessor. The Day of Atonement is the experience that is needed for the perfection of the saints. Just like the Pentecost experience is necessary, baptism experience is necessary, and a true repentance experience with Yeshua, they all are leading you through your sins and onto maturity as only Yeshua can know them, their root, branches and fruit.

 

[visionary]

All the Fall Feasts play a greater role in understanding the hows and whys of Revelation than what is explained here. It shows us that the reality of what is shortly to come to pass. It will also show us where we are to be spiritual in order to receive the blessings of the ceremonial fall feasts.

The coming of Christ as our high priest to the most holy place, for the cleansing of the sanctuary, brought to view in Daniel 8:14; the coming of the Son of man to the Ancient of Days, as presented in Daniel 7:13; and the coming of the Lord to His temple, foretold by Malachi, are descriptions of the same event; and this is also represented by the coming of the bridegroom to the marriage, described by Christ in the parable of the ten virgins of Matthew 25

 

[Joyous Song]

Hi, I have a question regarding the fulfillment of the feasts. I know there is much symbolism in the feasts. For example, I was taught that Sukkot was fulfilled when Christ came to dwell among us. Then much later I heard that it won't be fulfilled until he comes again because it is the Feast of the Ingathering and he will gather us to himself. Are both of these interpretations correct?

And I was also taught that Yom Kippur was fulfilled at Y'shua's death. But lately I've been hearing that it hasn't been fulfilled yet, and you have mentioned the "great Yom Kippur Fulfilment" which I have not heard of and would like to understand how this will be fulfilled when Jesus comes again since our sins have already been forgiven. Or does this only concern opening the Book of Life at the Final judgement that you mentioned in your OP...I would understand that explanation as well.

Thank you very much. I may have several questions at various times, so thanks in advance.

Pilgrim Stranger: Hi, I have a question regarding the fulfillment of the feast. I know there is much symbolism in the feast. For example, I was taught that Sukkot was fulfilled when Christ came to dwell among us, Then much later I heard it won’t be fulfilled until He comes again because it is the Feast of the Ingathering and He will gather us to Himself. Are both these interpretations correct?

JS: there are actually three Feast of ingathering yet each is for a different and important reason. The first is Pesach (Passover) when when all of Israel gathered together and the barley was waved in the Temple. This was what farmer bought to the Temple. Barley represents the Jews and those associated with them and Christ did rise from the dead during the feast.

Next comes Shavout (Pentecost) when wheat sheaves are waved and wheat represents Christianity. Thus the Ruach HaKodosh (Holy Spirit) descended down and started the Church on Shavous which also referenced when Moshe brought down those two tablets of stone to those of Israel gathered beneath Mount Sinai.

The last harvest of Ingathering is Saccos, When all Israel travels of Jerusalem to build booths there. They bring with them a mixed harvest- both Jew and gentile. Many aspect of these fall feast starting with Rosh HaShanah through to Yom Kippur have tribulation undertone, we are called to inflict ourselves during those ten days.

Also a Kings birthdays is a time people gathered together and we have a study showing Christ was born around Succos, Jn.1.14, John also states He was “Tabernacled among us” , another hint. I made a PDF of our study (my husband and me) and the link is included. Last Zechariah has just such a ingathering described for the Feast of Booth which is Saccos, Zech. 14.16-19


This leads to something else you wrote: But lately I been hearing that it is the been fulfilled yet, and you have mentioned the “great Yom Kippur fulfillment” which I have not heard of and would like to understand how this will be fulfilled when Jesus comes again since our sins have already been forgiven.

JS: Excellent question. What many Christian fail to understand is that Christ did not fulfill every prophecy attributed to Him when He came two thousand years ago.This was another reason many Jews stopped believing in Him within 70 years after His death.

The Messiah was not only suppose to forgive our sins but He was also suppose to reunite the brotherhood, Judah and E’phraim (the Lost Tribes). Therefore when the disciples asked Him, “L-rd, will You at this time restore the kingdom of Israel.” Acts 1.6, He responded that they spread the Gospel first to the Jews (Barley) then to the Gentiles (Wheat).

He knew what Judah back then did not, that part of HaShem’s plan that brought E’phraim’s exile was to bring along side them a multitude too numerous to count of Gentile converts. Christ would do this by sending those disciples out to gather up those lost tribes along side those gentiles opened to His call.

These gentiles then became full members of the Tribe of Israel and will return as such when He comes again. This is the implicate meaning to Romans 11 great mystery:


“Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand a mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the mutitude of the Gentiles comes in and then all Israel shall be save;..”. 25-26


This term the “full number” or the “multitude” of the Gentiles links back to E’phraim the patriarch of the Lost tribes Jacob said to Joseph:


“I know my son (Joseph), I know: He (Manasshe) also shall be a great people, and he shall also shall be great; nevertheless his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his defendants shall become a multitude of the gentiles.” Ge.48.19-20

So this is why we need a third and finial ingathering of a mixed harvest: Jews, Gentiles coverts and Ephraim. This Christ did not do, yet! This is only a brief explanation but hopefully it helps to clarify your confusion on these feasts and their deeper meanings.

 

[Pilgrim Stranger]

Thank you Joyous Song for your good post--it contained some detailed information which I had not known before. I know that all the feasts point to Christ and I understand a lot of the symbolism, but I think it's only a surface knowledge that I have and would like to know more. Thanks to everyone who's been helpful.

A little of my background might be helpful, but I don't know. I'm a Gentile, but I went to a Messianic Congregation for a few years and there was never any in depth teaching on all aspects of the feasts. And I was involved with a Messianic Jewish group that went into various churches with a very basic teaching showing that Y'shua fulfilled the feasts. We also held Messianic Passovers at churches that were interested and explained symbolism in the ceremony and how it related to Christ. So there's a few things I know, but I'm finding out I don't know a lot.

 

[Joyous Song]

Pilgrim Stranger: Thank you Joyous Song for your good post-it contained information which I had not known before. I know that all feasts point to Christ and I understand a lot of symbolism, but its only a surface knowledge that I have and would like to know more.

JS: Perhaps a bit of our own history can help you understand why understanding Hebrew feasts can bring clarity where confusion stood before. Years ago I had a dream after praying, “Should we take up the Jewish traditions?” In the dream I heard a male voice say: “First comes the interest; then comes the principle.”

I had that dream back in the mid nineteen nineties and though I no longer remember the event that caused me to ask that question in prayer, the dream is as vivid as when I heard and saw it happen. Anyway we took this to mean we were to learn about the Jewish traditions.

We joined a Messianic Synagogue and bought books of keeping Hahalacha. Initially they were Christian books with Christianize version but we quickly switched to Jewish texts and later web sites for learning. To make this story shorter, I can say our first attempts were silly, but we learned over time and applied what we learned and came stronger..

Our Judaic understand grew strong enough and our keeping of Hahalacha more Orthodox and around 2003 at it was then we started to make connections. Prophecies in the Sacred Scripture that made no sense were making sense. This was when we first came to understand the fall holidays reflect the second coming.

Yet at this same time or close to this we were pushed first out of the Messianic Synagogue because we were Catholic, then lost our communion with Roman Catholic Jewish believers when the AHC (America Hebrew Catholic Movement) decide for their Jewish Identity to be based on heredity, not Hahalacha. All Messianic movements would follow suit.

So we continued learning and growing in our Jewish heritage in total isolation. still studying on-line with Jewish rabbi often asking them questions about Hahalacha when we needed guidance because we no longer could ask our Jewish brethren.

I gave this history to show you that once we were like you, interested in Jewish traditions but unsure how to proceed from there. The dream set us to learning but the fruit we gleaned in our faith and understanding helped us through those years of isolation.

One way to know if this is for you as well is for you to join an ecumenical Seder at a local Synagogue. Out here they have one yearly though Covid-19 may have changed that. Another way is to do as we did, pick up books on the subject and hunt down web sites. See if your interest grows as you learn more as ours did.

Also we started on this journey in the mid nineties (we believe it was 1996 when I had that dream) but by 2003 we were already keeping Hahalacha well enough to start seeing and making connections. Interestingly those revelations came exactly seven “perfect” years from our starting.

Also, I don’t know if you will feel what I felt but learning about Hahalacha did not feel like I was learning something new but remembered something I forgot, if that makes any sense.

Lastly the Christian feasts and traditions also came through the Spirit, and they are shadows or echoes of the Hebrew Feast, another connection we saw as our keeping became more Orthodox. So at least in theory one could glean like understanding from these traditions as well. Still they are a reflections of Hebrew traditions, so seeing these connections may not be as easy.

 

[visionary]

Yep, it is all rehearsal, whether traditionally kept or not, then comes the reality. So while you practice, however your spirit shows you, make it in harmony with God's Word. Be on the look out for the reality, pray that your eyes and heart are open to it. Traditions bring unity with fellow believers. Work in harmony with the congregation, learning and sharing and growing closer to Him. It is all good, it all heading in the right direction, and God will continue to lead you.