YES or NO: Do The 10 Commandments Still Apply To Us Today? (2)

[Stryder06]

Actually, I'd say that YOU place too much trust in man: YOURSELF.
Unless you think you are God's oracle.

I put my trust in God. although I like LLOJ's comment about the Pope, of course i'll leave that alone. Either way you still haven't answered my question about what is and isn't to be taken litteral out of those examples that I gave you.

 

[ticker]

YES or NO: Do The 10 Commandments Still Apply To Us Today? (2)

Nope (2)

Peace

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

YES or NO: Do The 10 Commandments Still Apply To Us Today? (2)

Nope (2)

Peace

Too bad this wasn't a poll thread

 

[visionary]

Every Word of God still stands.. always will...

 

[MamaZ]

The 10 are just the sum of the explanation that was placed outside the ark. So if you are bound to the 10 you will need to be bound by the explanation of what it is to be bound to the 10. And if you break even one of them you are guilty of breaking them all. Quite a heavy burden to carry since Christ in His Majesty was the only one to ever be able to live and fulfill these..

 

[visionary]

The 10 are just the sum of the explanation that was placed outside the ark. So if you are bound to the 10 you will need to be bound by the explanation of what it is to be bound to the 10. And if you break even one of them you are guilty of breaking them all. Quite a heavy burden to carry since Christ in His Majesty was the only one to ever be able to live and fulfill these..

You do not know the difference between the law of Moses and the Law of God. The Law of God, God wrote on stone; the Law of Moses, Moses wrote on parchment. Now the Law of Moses is binding on Israel and the Law of God is binding on all creatures in the entire universe because He is the creator of heaven and all that is in it and of earth and all that is in it.

 

[MamaZ]

You do not know the difference between the law of Moses and the Law of God. The Law of God, God wrote on stone; the Law of Moses, Moses wrote on parchment. Now the Law of Moses is binding on Israel and the Law of God is binding on all the universe because He is the creator of heaven and all that is in it and of earth and all that is in it.

Wow.. Yes God wrote the 10 on stone and He told Moses to write what was given to him and place it on the outside of the Ark to explain what was written in stone placed in the Ark.. If you remember Moses broke that stone..

 

[MamaZ]

The Law of God is every word ever spoken of God that we now have in the written form that is sufficient to equip the man of God and it is not the 10.. It is every word of God. The 10 commandments were never given to the gentiles only to the Jewish nation who at that time where the covenant people of God. Now there is a new covenant and it is not the 10 but the very blood of Christ our King that cancels out out sin and the The Holy Spirit that is our Sealer wrought by the will of God in the new birth experience. For our new life in Christ Jesus is not by following after the law but all things have become new and it is our life Hid in Christ.

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

Every Word of God still stands.. always will...

That's bad news for the prodigals
Deuteronomy 21:18-21:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and [that], when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son [is] stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; [he is] a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Every last word...

In answer to the OP: What do you mean by "apply," as in the 10 commandments still "apply?"

 

[visionary]

On Mount Sinai.. there were both the great multitude that came out of Egypt with Israel, that would include other slaves from other nations...They all got to hear the Voice of God give them the Ten Words. The Jews even say that it was given in seventy languages that day. Seventy represented the known languages of the world. So yea, God told everyone who had gathered around in their own language, that which He wrote on the tables of stone.

 

[visionary]

That's bad news for the prodigals
Deuteronomy 21:18-21:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and [that], when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son [is] stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; [he is] a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Every last word...

In answer to the OP: What do you mean by "apply," as in the 10 commandments still "apply?"

That is from the law of Moses.... that is different.

We are only talking about the TEN Commandments in this thread.

 

[Gary51]

That's bad news for the prodigals
Deuteronomy 21:18-21:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and [that], when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son [is] stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; [he is] a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Every last word...

In answer to the OP: What do you mean by "apply," as in the 10 commandments still "apply?"

Sorry to see that your son has some fingers missing. I guess he has a hard time playing that piano.

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

Sorry to see that your son has some fingers missing. I guess he has a hard time playing that piano.

We haven't had to stone him (yet).

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

That is from the law of Moses.... that is different.

We are only talking about the TEN Commandments in this thread.

But you had said, and I quote
Every Word of God still stands
So you must have meant "some words of God still stand."
Certainly, God's words to Moses were His words, every single part of the Mosaic Law- unless Moses lied, and it wasn't God who told him what the law was...

 

[visionary]

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

 

[Gary51]

We haven't had to stone him (yet).

You say yet. Is he still in danger?

 

[Josephus777]

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Josh: 24:15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."

DEUT: 28:1 "Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God: 3 Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the country. 4 Blessed shall be the fruit of your body, the produce of your ground and the increase of your herds, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks. 5 Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. 6 Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out. 7 "The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated before your face; they shall come out against you one way and flee before you seven ways. 8 The Lord will command the blessing on you in your storehouses and in all to which you set your hand, and He will bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you. 9 The Lord will establish you as a holy people to Himself, just as He has sworn to you, if you keep the commandments of the Lord your God and walk in His ways. 10 Then all peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of you. 11 And the Lord will grant you plenty of goods, in the fruit of your body, in the increase of your livestock, and in the produce of your ground, in the land of which the Lord swore to your fathers to give you. 12 The Lord will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. 13 And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail; you shall be above only, and not be beneath, if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, and are careful to observe them. 14 So you shall not turn aside from any of the words which I command you this day, to the right or the left, to go after other gods to serve them. 15 "But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
You do the math... As for me and mine I choose to serve the lord

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

You say yet. Is he still in danger?

Possibly- I am being exposed to Judaizing ideas often...who knows what could happen?

 

[visionary]

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

If you love Yeshua, keep the TEN commandments..

John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Do not think that Yeshua's commandments are any different from His Father's. They are one and the same...

John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

It is the rule of thumb...

1 John 2:3
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Love of God is manifested this way...

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The devil goes after God's children.. and the devil will be able to identify them by their manifestation of the Love of God..

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

It is so evident that God calls people who do keep them as Saints...

Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[MamaZ]

The 10 commandments are just the sum of what was put on the outside of the ark. Both binding to the Jewish nation. If you are going to keep the 10 you will need to keep the fullness of the 10 and that is put on the outside of the ark in full explanation as to what it means to keep the 10. You preach what you do not know. The law is the OC and not the NC.. You cannot put old wine into new wineskins or else it will break.. For the new Wine is of the Spirit.. Not of the Law.