Yes, but what if we are not wrong?

[bhsmte]

What I'm not convinced of yet, is that the inner turmoil hasn't become effectively "conditioned" into some other response from the person, to where they are not responding, feeling, and thinking things others simply are not. The idea of hell actually BRINGS THEM JOY, for example. No inner turmoil. Or that guilt and fear they feel, has become peaceful and reassuring. It transforms immediately. Fear comes ... but their response to the fear effectively goes into other directions. At this point, the inner turmoil is no longer driving it. It's morphed into something else entirely. You don't think so though ? You think it's always the inner turmoil essentially ? This is the point I'm not convinced of yet. Sometimes ? Absolutely. All the time ? I don't think so. I think it can morph effectively into something else.

You are essentially describing people are able to turn off all outside reality completely from their brain, that may conflict with their personal beliefs.

Defense mechanisms exist to deal with this outside reality that causes conflict, but few likely are capable of building such walls, no reality that conflicts with their belief is allowed a split second of thought inside their brain.

People who are able to detach from reality to this degree and manufacture their own reality, are lets say; not healthy from a psychological standpoint.

 

[TillICollapse]

You are essentially describing people are able to turn off all outside reality completely from their brain, that may conflict with their personal beliefs.

Defense mechanisms exist to deal with this outside reality that causes conflict, but few likely are capable of building such walls, no reality that conflicts with their belief is allowed a split second of thought inside their brain.

This would be more akin to denial, imo. I'm looking at it more from a "conditioned" viewpoint, I suppose I could say loosely. It would no longer require effort based denial. Their own mechanism has now changed to where they actually respond to the concepts in a certain manner. For all intent and purposes, the way they are perceiving things IS true because they are now processing it that way naturally, no internal conflict necessary.

People who are able to detach from reality to this degree and manufacture their own reality, are lets say; not healthy from a psychological standpoint.

Well yeah lol

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So are you saying, you don't think there's a point where such a person actually switches from active and effort based denial, projecting, dissonance, inner turmoil ... to where their own processing and reasoning actually CHANGES and they no longer experience those previous aspects, to where their new filter system just comes naturally and effortlessly ?