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It's nice when you don't have to make that decision on the front end!I am a little confused, are you arguing for the Sabbath or against it? Thanks.
nowhere in the command does it say that the Sabbath was merely given to them as a sign to remember their deliverance.
Now here is the relevant point. Since we know that the sabbath was given to Isrealites as a reminder of the exodus, what would lead us to conclude that the sabbath was given to Israelites prior to the exodus?
BFA
"The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. (Mark 2:27 NKJV)
Wrong inference. The focus was much narrower but I can understand why you would choose to misinterpret the passage.You are asking the wrong kind of question.
Rather than asking what would lead us to conclude that the Sabbath was given to the Israelites prior to the Exodus, it would be more appropriate to ask the question of who the Sabbath was made for.
Jesus words should suffice to prove that the Sabbath wasn't merely made for the Israelites, but for all humankind:
Wrong inference. The focus was much narrower but I can understand why you would choose to misinterpret the passage.
Rather than asking what would lead us to conclude that the Sabbath was given to the Israelites prior to the Exodus, it would be more appropriate to ask the question of who the Sabbath was made for.
Jesus words should suffice to prove that the Sabbath wasn't merely made for the Israelites, but for all humankind:
This is 2009. Are we still playing the victim?So before you try to make libelous implications, you better make sure you got your facts straight! For you are essentially accusing me of intentionally misinterpreting the passage when I did not make any mention of attempting to interpret it within its given context.
So before you try to make libelous implications, you better make sure you got your facts straight! For you are essentially accusing me of intentionally misinterpreting the passage when I did not make any mention of attempting to interpret it within its given context.
If you are correct, this would mean that we do or cannot know what comprises the Ceremonial Law.It appears that the core- debate about the weekly Sabbath Day lies on whether the weekly Sabbath Day was part of the Ceremonial law. Please share your findings.
Arguments go both ways. The fact that it is included with the 10 commandments is a strong suggestion that it wasn't part of the ceremonial law, as the 10 commandments are obviously a representation (given to the Israelites) of the moral law.
The 10C are moral law as they are based on the moral principles to love God with all your heart, mind and strength and to love your neighbor as yourself.
The ceremonial laws (with respect to the sacrifices and Temple rituals) came into play when the moral laws were violated and served as a type that pointed to Christ.
Paul said that the moral law was written on the gentiles hearts, so even if they did not know the law, they were still condemned.
Basically, the idea is that the ceremonial law is the directions of Israel as a people because that is what God needed them to do at the moment.
And to point forward to Christ.
Now obviously, any communication is giong to be based on the people who are hearing it just as much as the person giving the communication. That is why I said that the 10 Cs are a representation (an implementation) of the moral law given to the Israelites. Obviously, none of us today or the israelites 1000s of years ago understand God's law completely. We lack the ability to hear it and to understand it.
However, that doesn't mean that the law has changed, rather, we have changed.
Where can I find these words of Paul?
If this is the definition of "cermonial law," then we must conclude that burnt offerings are not "ceremonial" for they were practiced during the days of Adam and Eve and did not originate with Israel.
Have we been given One who does understand it? Is it not HE who convicts with respect to sin and righteousness and judgment (see John 14 and John 16)?
Have any laws changed? Do you feel that God has called you to follow every God-given command set out in Scripture? Can any jot or tittle of the law pass if there are things that have not been accomplished? Can we conclude that some jots and tittles have passed but others have not?
Upon what authority do you make such claims?
BFA
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